What do you all think of this?

[h8rsMadEf4mou5]

Need Advice= So.. I am going to be sending my 686 plus to Clark Custom to basically turn it into a PPC gun. Here is what I am doing=

-Aristocrat sight rib
-6 in stainless barrel
-full length underlug w/ stainless finish applied to it at extra cost

and the rest that comes with the package is listed here
Revolver Conversions by Clark Custom Guns, Inc. - Satisfaction GUARANTEED!

When it is done it will look like a stainless steel version of the black and white photo above on that web page. But, anyways I am turning my 686 + into this.. was just wondering what any ones thoughts were on this.. is it viable? Does 7 shots disqualify me from certain competitions? Will this improve the accuracy and consistency of the gun noticeably? AND MOST IMPORTANTLY will the aristocrat rib sight, the action, trigger and/or cylinder job make this gun any less reliable or less rugged in any way?

Thank you in advance for your advice.

 

[Andy Griffith]

It'd be a heck of a bowling pin piece!
....and look good too!

 

[h8rsMadEf4mou5]

Yeah, probably one of the first things I will be giving a try with this piece... IS actually pin shooting. Have heard there are shoots here for it. I would like to eventually try out PPC, <I never have it sounds fun>.

I am getting this gun put together to have the ultimate race gun and plinker. I would eventually like to start shooting competitively. <I just have along way to go> Oh yeah and to stick it to my buddy and his damn butter action pic perfect Python lol.

 

[kshock]

I don't think the 7 shots will disqualify you from PPC, but keep in mind that all PPC courses are based on 6 shot strings. Custom barrels for PPC guns are usually a faster twist that is intended to stabilize low velocity LEAD bullets out to 50 yards (wadcutters for the most part). Your gun will be no less reliable, but should be more accurate with the right bullets. The heavy ribs, barrel, etc. help steady your hold and control recoil and that long, flat sight rib gives a great sight plane. If you want to shoot high velocity jacketed bullets, you should ask your pistolsmith his advice on that through that custom barrel. I personally would not even think of shooting high velocity jacketed ammo through mine...not what it was intended for and I have too much $ invested. BTW, it will make a great pin gun!

 

[h8rsMadEf4mou5]

I don't think the 7 shots will disqualify you from PPC, but keep in mind that all PPC courses are based on 6 shot strings. Custom barrels for PPC guns are usually a faster twist that is intended to stabilize low velocity LEAD bullets out to 50 yards (wadcutters for the most part). Your gun will be no less reliable, but should be more accurate with the right bullets. The heavy ribs, barrel, etc. help steady your hold and control recoil and that long, flat sight rib gives a great sight plane. If you want to shoot high velocity jacketed bullets, you should ask your pistolsmith his advice on that through that custom barrel. I personally would not even think of shooting high velocity jacketed ammo through mine...not what it was intended for and I have too much $ invested. BTW, it will make a great pin gun!

My smith said I "could" shoot 357 through the barrel as much as I want HOWEVER she did say it can loosen my aristocrat rib, so I would need to constantly be checking it making sure it was tight. If the screws come loose and I fire still with a huge load it will split the sight rib. So,,, I dunno,I am new to this. I will mostly be shooting .38 spl outta it but, I had thought about shootin 357 as well.. you say that you would NEVER shoot anything more than wadcutters from yours?? so 357 to you would be out of the question.. would 38 spl <non wadcutter>be as well??

P.S. the reason I am getting this gun put together mainly is to shoot .38 more efficiently with less recoil, kick, and hopefully more consistency. Accuracy as well since I am upgrading the barrel to 6 in. I had thought I might still shoot 357 but... if that is stupid or will hurt my now soon to be 2k plus gun plz let me know. I dont want to waste money and i especially dont want to remain ignorant. Any advice will graciously received, since I know next to nothing about this , still kinda new.

 

[kshock]

I have no problem shooting lead SWC's or even jacketed bullets through my custom gun. What I won't do is shoot jacketed magnum rounds through my custom barrel. I would have left the stock barrel on if I wanted to do that. My barrel has a faster twist than the stock barrel and the faster twist is used to stabilize low velocity lead bullets (typically wadcutter's). I have other .357 Mag guns if I feel the urge to shoot magnums so why would I shoot them through a custom barrel designed and built for something else? BTW, I doubt that shooting a jacketed magnum through my gun would actually damage it, but with the above comments, why take the chance? It also may not be very accurate with that fast twist. I have never seen or read about what would happen to the accuracy of jacketed magnum rounds when shot through one of these barrels. If you decide to try it, PM me with the results.

 

[tomcatt51]

I have never seen or read about what would happen to the accuracy of jacketed magnum rounds when shot through one of these barrels. If you decide to try it, PM me with the results.

A faster twist barrel shoots "magnum" or higher velocity rds just fine. The std twist is SLOW. Why? I have no idea. Shooting silhouettes and needing 200 yd accuracy the loads that achieved it were maxed out loads to get velocity, and more importantly, to get the bullet spin (rpm's) up for stability.

 

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[GyMac]

I'd love to have a PPC gun, but mine would be a .38 Special.

 

[h8rsMadEf4mou5]

Sent some of you pm's. Thank you for the replies... I still have tons more questions so any information you have is like gold to me. It is nice to hear that I do not have to worry about shooting even magnum loads through my gun, and that it wont rip the thing apart lol. <sarcasm>

Just out of curiosity, how hard is it to find a PPC range if you are not a LEO or retired-LEO? I was in the Corps but I doubt that would matter, if the range or club is owned and operated by the PD. I have heard of them opening up there ranges for civilian use before, but never heard about anything related to PPC or to competitions on their ranges. Pardon my ignorance on this subject, but I would like to know.

 

[tomcatt51]

It is nice to hear that I do not have to worry about shooting even magnum loads through my gun, and that it wont rip the thing apart lol.

You're ok only if you build it on an L frame as your post says. Many (most?) PPC guns are built on K frames and on those I would definitely stay with wadcutter level 38 special loads.

 

[Fkimble]

I would suggest you keep your 686 for magnum shooting etc. It's aready got a 6 in barrel and a full length underlug. and they usually are very accurate. Maybe get a double action trigger job done on it. Then you can pickup a cosmeticaly challenged K frame for a song and have all the work done on it. This would allow you to shoot 357 without worry and the 686 value would not be diminished. And you would have a killer PPC gun.

 

[H Richard]

I agree with Fkimble. Use any decent K Frame, and stick with "Target Loads" which is what the gun is designed for. Keep it 6 shot if you ever intend to use it in any PPC competition.

 

[tomcatt51]

This gets to "what do you want the gun for?" If you want a PPC gun I'd go with a K frame. If you want a pin gun (post #3) I'd go with an eight shot 627.

 

[M1911-66]

What is it that you want to compete in? ppc? Uspsa? Idpa? Decide that first as one gun won't be optimal for all and spending $2k just for a plinker is a waste.

 

[h8rsMadEf4mou5]

So the 686p wont be allowed on a PPC range? Huh.. did not know that... 627 would be better for a pin gun?? Are there any GOOD 627 models that aren't performance center?? Or at least with the PC price?? My good ole 686p ran me 600... and I was ripped off 100 bucks.

I would like for my 686 to be used as a PPC.. AND a pin gun... I have yet to try either types of these ranges OR competitions.. just reflex shooting, cans, silhouettes, small game, and lots and lots of paper shooting.

Would the 686p not qualify for either?? Is there a rule that says 6 shots only for PPC? AND is the 627's price JUST for the cylinders extra shot and PC ported barrel? Or is there more to the gun that rationalizes the price? Because I am very happy with my 686.. it shoots wad cutters, 38 sp. AND magnum loads picture perfect, every time. That extra shot in the cylinder is nice to have as well. All in all, I just really love this gun.

 

[M1911-66]

You really should try competing in your discipline of choice before you spend $2k on a gun for it. You might find that you just don't care for that competition, or that you don't need what you thought you needed.

Unless you are shooting icore, most disciplines require a six-shot revolver.