S&W M&P 15-22 M4 / CAR Conversion

Which look do you like better?


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davnic66

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I know I am one of many who wanted a basic standard military issue M4 / CAR style .22 who has pondered the question, the Colt M4 Carbine .22 or the Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22? I always liked the clean look of the standard issue military M4 / CAR but was limited in choices in .22 caliber. It was either the Colt which looked the part but the quality was not there, the S&W which had the quality but the look was not correct, or an AR15 conversion which has both the look and quality but at a high price. Although I do like all the awesome add-ons available and will one day build myself a tricked out 15-22 that cost 6 times what I paid for the original weapon, lol, the idea here is a clean, simple look, keeping as true to standard military issue as possible.

When I wanted a M4 / CAR style .22 to use for target shooting, plinking and teaching my children to shoot, I had looked at the Colt, the S&W, and the AR-15 with either a conversion kit or full .22 upper. When I examined the Colt I was NOT impressed at all with the quality, especially the non-functioning parts placed on it only for looks and I was also not interested in converting an AR-15 due to the high total cost. I liked the quality of the S&W M&P 15-22 but was told by several local gun shops that there was no way to convert it to make it look like the M4 or the Colt. After a bit of internet research I was pleased to find the conversion was possible and was determined to prove them wrong.

So I chose what I felt was the best of the three choices. Considering price, quality of construction and materials, weight and functionality, I chose the S&W M&P 15-22 ($459) and set out to convert it to look as close to an M4 / CAR as possible. With limited local resources, (which is a nice way of saying with no help from disinterested local gun shops because it was only a .22), and despite the lack of two obvious details, the forward assist and the dust cover, which in my opinion are a fair trade off to gain the quality of the S&W over the Colt or beat the high price of a converted AR15, I scoured the internet, the gun show and local shops for the necessary parts to make this possible.

I'm sure most of you know how to do the conversion but I will briefly describe the process for those who need somewhere to start. First I removed the barrel nut with the use of a homemade barrel nut wrench ($3.50 and about an hour of time to fabricate) using a 2' piece of black steel 3/4" pipe which I found plans for on the internet. BTW don't waste your time with the PVC option, I tried the PVC option first and kept shearing off the tips, and yes I had them seated completely and they fit perfectly, its just not strong enough. I suggest Shooboy's ShooWrench and Tacticool22's Barrel Nut Wrench if you don't feel like fabricating one at home. The barrel nut was replaced with Tacticool22's Free Float Handguard Converter ($25) which allows a delta ring assembly ($20) to be threaded on. The front sight is an ArmaLite A2 clamp-on front sight ($45) with custom shims to take up the space between the barrel and the front sight. Then a standard M4 handguard ($20), handguard cap ($2.50), sling swivel ($3.50), mil spec carry handle ($45) and a Hogue grip ($20) were added followed by a few hours at the range adjusting the vertical alignment of the front sight.

The one with the M4 handguard went to a friend with larger hands and I built another one with the CAR handguard for me. After comparing the two, I'm still undecided about the look of the M4 handguard although I think I am leaning towards the look of the CAR handguard with it's slimmer profile and I definitely prefer it's feel as it is more comfortable for my smaller hands. The nice thing about this conversion utilizing the clamp-on front sight is that you can use just about any diameter and length handguard you choose. Simple, clean and just what I wanted. I couldn't be happier.

If anyone needs any advice or help on doing this conversion, let me know and I will be glad to assist any way I can. Also any input on better ways to achieve this look or better parts available is certainly appreciated.

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S&W M&P 15-22 w/ M4 handguard

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S&W M&P 15-22 w/ CAR handguard

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Colt M4 .22​
 
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Looks great!!! You did a neat job.

But where is the flashlight, laser, foregrip, bipod, flip up sights, red-green dot sights, cheek plate on the butt plate, etc...????
LOL

Great clean look. I like it.

Guy22
 
Very nice. Don't know why S&W isn't making the exact same thing. Maybe they'll get to it.
 
After building my 5.56 and throwing a bunch of accessories on it, I decided I wanted a simple M4 out of my 15-22. I just added a rail mounted fixed front sight and a carry handle. I really like this set up. It is nice to go back to the basics and shoot this way.

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Very nice job. I did the same thing with mine and I'm just waiting on my carry handle from amazon. I used the true shot technologies front sight though.
 
You can get a A2 sight for the 15-22 in either AR style or AK style that fits with no shimming required from fellow member FMJ50 (true shot technologies) here in the forums. Check the venders lists. Just a note to provide an alternative for an A2 sight. Davnic66, I really like the way you did yours with the new fore grip. Looks pretty hot. I just cut two inches off the factory fore grip on mine.
 
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You can get a A2 sight for the 15-22 in either AR style or AK style that fits with no shimming required from fellow member FMJ50 (true shot technologies) here in the forums. Check the venders lists. Just a note to provide an alternative for an A2 sight. Davnic66, I really like the way you did yours with the new fore grip. Looks pretty hot. I just cut two inches off the factory fore grip on mine.
Thanks for the True Shot front sight info. I'm going to order one tomorrow as I'm going to build another one of these again soon. That would make life a lot easier. And thanks for the compliments, makes all the work worthwhile.
 
Looks good. there is also a guy on here ( painterlyshooter i think ) who sells a nice dust cover. I have one my rifle if you wanting one. Im still trying to find a cheap broken plastioc airsoft m4 that i can try to take the forward assit button off of
 
Although I didn't change out the foregrip, I did go one step further and added a see-thru riser and compact scope. Now I can switch from open sights to scope, at will, and it really works good for me! :D
 

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Looks good. there is also a guy on here ( painterlyshooter i think ) who sells a nice dust cover. I have one my rifle if you wanting one. Im still trying to find a cheap broken plastioc airsoft m4 that i can try to take the forward assit button off of

I've might have seen that, it looks pretty good, but it attaches with double sided tape and uses a magnet as a release mechanism. Good idea, but not sure about the attachment as things with double sided tape tend to not work to well in the desert, as heat and dryness tend to wreak havoc on adhesives out here over time.

I've had bad luck using any type of tape adhesive products in Arizona as the extreme heat tends to make adhesives gluey. Even leaving it in the trunk of a car can be hot enough in the summer to melt the best of adhesive products. And what the sun and heat doesn't melt, the lack of humidity dries up and disintegrates over time.
 
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I've might have seen that, it looks pretty good, but it attaches with double sided tape and uses a magnet as a release mechanism. Good idea, but not sure about the attachment as things with double sided tape tend to not work to well in the desert, as heat and dryness tend to wreak havoc on adhesives out here over time.

I think you are referring to Painterlyshotgroup, who makes and sells the dust cover. He uses automobile trim tape, which seems to hold up under just about any condition. Give him a shout and see what he has to say. I have the dust cover and it works very well, and looks great.
 
Davnic66,
That is one sweet looking job! Makes me feel like I
am in "The Nam" (Vietnam) and I've never been there.
 

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