More Tourist trouble in NYC

[squidsix]

Nuts man. I can carry a gun everywhere else in NYS. The permit says "unrestricted carry for life unless revoked" on it, and I have had it since 1995. I get about to Yonkers, and have to stand on the brakes and ask myself "Am I still legal?".

 

[ladder13]

Don't know what you mean, but the Federal peaceable journey law applies here. If the weapon may be legally posessed at the origin and destination, you are legal. I have a home in Dutchess county, NY, and I'm, naturally, "on my way there".

Not if you remove it from it's locked container:


926A. Interstate Transportation of Firearms
Release date: 2005-08-03
Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver's compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000926---A000-.html

 

[squidsix]

Huh. Well, I guess I'm guilty. Maybe if I ever get hassled I'll sell the farm and pay for the NYC "Heller" suit.

 

[Maximumbob54]

I can't even carry my ninja throwing stars???

 

[squidsix]

I would think carrying a star large enough to throw ninjas would be somewhat cumbersome. Better off carrying the mime throwing basket.

 

[PDL]

Not if you remove it from it's locked container:


926A. Interstate Transportation of Firearms
Release date: 2005-08-03
Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver's compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000926---A000-.html

Actually, it's gotten a bit worse than that. NJ at least considers the firearm 'readily accessible' if you've got it in your hotel room locked case or not. Apparantly, if you leave it in the car it might be legal. It seems like the minute you stop, you're no longer 'transporting' in their minds.

 

[squidsix]

They would prefer that you totally fatigue yourself, crash, then when your vehicle is searched while you are in the emergency room, they can come and cuff you to the hospital bed.

 

[truckemup97]

I think this whole thing is going into the court system soon. D.C. and Chicago have had their days, now it's NYC's turn, and I think it's about time.

That said, I enjoy visiting NYC occasionally. You folks that want to boycott are welcome to do so. Personally, I'm boycotting International Falls, MN. It's just too dang cold to go there.

 

[Evil Dog]

I wouldn't spend a dime in California either.

I don't have much choice..... I live here. Can't afford to move either.

 

[bushmaster1313]

Be careful out there.

Do not go to an anti-jurisdiction with a firearm unless you are prepared to be arrested, have your firearm confiscated and fight a court system that is predisposed to finding you guilty and divesting your right to keep and bear arms forever.

 

[AirForceShooter]

The NY politicians are telling the Da to drop all these cases.
They know if it goes to court they'll lose and possibly have the Sullivan Law tossed.
They're also worrying about pending legislation.

AFS

 

[ladder13]

That another state/jurisdiction gave some a permit to carry ought suffice - under full faith and credit - to at least cover mere possession in another U.S. jurisdiction.

Does that pertain to SC as well?

SC doesn't recognize many other states either, in fact only 17, and no non-resident licenses.

Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Texas, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wyoming.

 

[Jst1mr]

What about a rubber band and a bent paper clip?

 

[wheelgun28]

What about a rubber band and a bent paper clip?

you will shoot your eye out...

 

[wheelgun28]

You guys know its NY state law about handguns, NYC laws are just a bit tougher, but mostly for state residents. In NY state its illegal to have a handgun as a non resident, as you cannot get a permit... So really it makes no difference NYC or NYS.

I live in CT near the NY border, its a big hassle. Wanna go to Home Depot, cant go to the NY store, carrying or havem in the car...

I do shoot a lot of shotgun, (sporting clays) in NY never have a problem following the rules...

Going to NYC you are pretty safe these days, just dont go to the housing projects or buy drugs...

It seems that theirs LOTs worse place to go than NYC. Meth isnt much of a problem there yet.

 

[walnutred]

How many does it take before it becomes a Class Action law suit? Sounds like that is what is building here. Multiple individuals, multiple States. Maybe the respective States Attorney Generals and planing some payback for Bloombergs strawman purchases.

 

[bushmaster1313]

As to FOPA in NYC.
I would not rely on it if I did not have to.
And I would not rely on it to take a handgun or an "assault weapon" through NYC.
Word is out that FOPA is not honored at the NYC airports even when it should be.
And some poor slob got arrested when the flight he was on got diverted to Newark NJ with a fun that was legal in his luggage if he had not stopped.

 

[bushmaster1313]

Nuts man. I can carry a gun everywhere else in NYS. The permit says "unrestricted carry for life unless revoked" on it, and I have had it since 1995. I get about to Yonkers, and have to stand on the brakes and ask myself "Am I still legal?".

Kimber is in Yonkers

 

[Onomea]

I would think carrying a star large enough to throw ninjas would be somewhat cumbersome. Better off carrying the mime throwing basket.

Could be we talkin' Jackie Chan here...

 

[GatorFarmer]

Does that pertain to SC as well?

SC doesn't recognize many other states either, in fact only 17, and no non-resident licenses.
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The NYC arrest in the original post was for mere possession. In SC there is nothing that bars an out of state resident from possessing a handgun whether they have any permit or not.

The gist of Heller protection thus far litigated essentially protects the right to have a gun inside the home for protection, and would likely cover things like hotels.

In NYC one apparently can't even possess a handgun unless one has a special dispensation from NYC. Thus even if the full faith and credit clause isn't extended to cover "carrying" (under the idea of that being a reserved police power of the state), it can still be construed as covering merely having, since if state A says you can carry it, state B ought at least recognize that such should suffice as a substitute for their own local dispensation to possess.