9mm vs 40 s&w
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Let me guess.... Let me go W A Y out on a limb here and guess that YOU have a 1911.
Well aren't you cool.
I want to be like you.
My .40 is garbage because you have a real man's gun, a 1911. Is that your message?
I am bowing to your greatness right now.
Please, any more wisdom you may give us will be eagerly received. I wait with bated breath for your next sage like post....
And many well versed with weapons and self defense also want what the cops carry (Massad Ayoob for one) .
true_shooter
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That time of the month? Learn to take a joke and life will be much easier.
I guess I'm partial to .40 S&W because that's the only large-ish semiauto I have. I have some Colt and Smith 1917s that throw big 45 caliber chunks of metal downrange, and I like those too. With the moon clips they are almost as fast to reload as the 4006, but I have to do it about twice as often.
I also have a PPK/S in 9mm kurz, or .380. l like that one too, but it doesn't count as a large semi-auto. It would do in a pinch, but I prefer the way the 4006 behaves in my hands.
I also have a PPK/S in 9mm kurz, or .380. l like that one too, but it doesn't count as a large semi-auto. It would do in a pinch, but I prefer the way the 4006 behaves in my hands.
And many well versed with weapons and self defense also want what the cops carry (Massad Ayoob for one) .
Yes but there is a difference. Well versed. And not well versed.
And what the cops carry isn't neccessarily the best choice for all. It certainly isn't for me.
true_shooter
Member
excelent statement Kanewpadle
Always keep in mind that their (cops) weapons are built by the lowest bidder.
and a big reason they went to a smaller caliber is because some could not handle the recoil, not just because of penetration, expantion, hydroshock etc etc etc
Faulkner
Member
You obviously don't know that of which you speak. Local law enforcement agencies don't have to buy from the lowest bidder . . . you must have them confused with NASA.
And you should learn to take a joke also my friend.... 
I learned long ago if something doesn't make sense, it probably isn't so, and those statements don't make any sense at all.
Lowest bidder? I have heard Glock bought their way into many departments, but I don't think they are any longer. There is a discount, but I bet you'd get a discount if you buy a hundred or so. And yes most manufacturers will discount their carry guns to first responders.... It's a marketing ploy. When civilians see lots of LEOs and military carrying an M&P, they tend to trust the brand.
And if we are going for lowest recoil, a 9mm is lower than a .40, and a .45 is lower than a .40. So is a 38 and a .380. So it makes sense to me that recoil is NOT the deciding factor to move to a .40.
You want to try to explain the big move to .40 cal again?
I learned long ago if something doesn't make sense, it probably isn't so, and those statements don't make any sense at all.
Lowest bidder? I have heard Glock bought their way into many departments, but I don't think they are any longer. There is a discount, but I bet you'd get a discount if you buy a hundred or so. And yes most manufacturers will discount their carry guns to first responders.... It's a marketing ploy. When civilians see lots of LEOs and military carrying an M&P, they tend to trust the brand.
And if we are going for lowest recoil, a 9mm is lower than a .40, and a .45 is lower than a .40. So is a 38 and a .380. So it makes sense to me that recoil is NOT the deciding factor to move to a .40.
You want to try to explain the big move to .40 cal again?
true_shooter
Member
And you should learn to take a joke also my friend....
I learned long ago if something doesn't make sense, it probably isn't so, and those statements don't make any sense at all.
Lowest bidder? I have heard Glock bought their way into many departments, but I don't think they are any longer. There is a discount, but I bet you'd get a discount if you buy a hundred or so. And yes most manufacturers will discount their carry guns to first responders.... It's a marketing ploy. When civilians see lots of LEOs and military carrying an M&P, they tend to trust the brand.
And if we are going for lowest recoil, a 9mm is lower than a .40, and a .45 is lower than a .40. So is a 38 and a .380. So it makes sense to me that recoil is NOT the deciding factor to move to a .40.
You want to try to explain the big move to .40 cal again?
wow the whole lowest bidder thing is another joke thats been around a long time get out more bud. and i dont need to explain anything if you like your .40 more power to ya. by the way the .40 S&W is a cartridge not your child stop getting your panties in a bunch because I made a joke about it.
If this were true cops wol carry **** weapons like Loricon or Davis. To the contrary police weapons have always been on the high end of the gun market.
true_shooter
Member
I guess you havent heard that joke before either
Maybe you can post a smiley or something after your 'jokes' so we know you're kidding.
When you make a flat out statement that is completely out of whack and then get called on it, it kind of seems like you backpedal by saying 'Oh, that was just a joke...'
true_shooter
Member
:\not gonna waste my time on you any more lost lake, good shootin to ya
amazingflapjack
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Thank you Hook686-I have saved this data and image for future threads of this variety.
I switched to 40 simply because the wife and I shoot 40 better. I find I get less muzzle flip so I get faster more accurate follow up shots. Everybody is different. I also shoot 45 well so I have a couple of those two. If I an heading into bad territory I carry my FNP-45 15+1 rounds of 45 acp. I also carry two spare mags, that makes 46 rnds of 45 acp. I don't try to conceal the FNP, I only open carry it.
I don't try to conceal the FNP, I only open carry it.I will take a 9mm to a 40sw anyday. The 40sw is a redundant cal. that has no more power than a 9mm and not as much as a 45acp. It was a watered down 10mm load thats like putting your finger into a dike to stop the flood. It serves no usefull purpose other than to sell pistols and ammo for a useless cal.
LOL!!! You need a BIG smiley after that BS statement!!!
The closest bullet weights we can find to compare. All Speer Gold Dot:
9mm 147gr - 317ft/lbs
.40 155gr - 496ft/lbs
.45 185gr - 453ft/lbs
You can get +p in 9 and 45 which helps these numbers.
The .40 is a high pressure hard hitting round, there's no doubt about it.
The BEST 9mm Speer Gold Dot +P round comes in at 410ft/lbs. That's still 20% lighter than the .40, in fact it's lower than the lightest hitting .40 .
Hey, I carry a 9c. I also carry a .380. But I know the performance of each... I think maybe somebody has been blowing smoke up your skirt....
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