I ordered a M&P9 and now I read about all the accuracy issues. Wonderful!

[brotheryang]

The M&P 9mm FS probably has had approximately 2500 rounds through it since I bought in Jan 12 with only one problem. That problem was caused by when I switched the magazine release to left hand operation, in that position the magazines would not feed properly. Once changed back it never missed a beat.

I find it interesting you say that. Just came back from the range with my new to me (bought used from gunbroker) M&P 9c. Shot ten magazines of ten, using two mags that came with it, of course. CCI Blazer 147 FMJ aluminum case, about 15 years old. After the 4th or 5th round, the magazine quit feeding. Eject, cartridges dump out, magazine halfway down. push little button halfway down mag, pops right up. This happened about 7 times. Other times, cartridge would not feed into chamber or slide would not close all the way. I was hoping it is the ammo, although same stuff through my Beretta 92fs with no problems. Needless to say, a little depressed. The only thing I had done was switched the mag release to LH operation. Why would that cause this problem? I hope that is the answer, i just don't understand it. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Nakanokalronin]

I've noticed that all S&W magazines come with a thin layer of gunk on there, probably as a corrosion preventative. Every brand new S&W magazine I clean before I shoot it which makes whatever rag I'm using turn black. Add the residue from shooting and it may make the follower stick, just a thought.

 

[chanroc]

My 9mm M&P is a couple years old, and I have no problems shooting 1.5 to 2 inches at 25 feet, using various 115/124gr FMJ and Hollow Points. Heck, the tightest group I've gotten with it was using Federal's 9BPLE load.
Hope it works out for you.

 

[Maddmax]

I guess my M&Ps are illiterate too. I have never had accuracy issues with any of them. Having owned lots of guns does not equal being a good shooter. Just means that you had $$$$$$ to buy them over some years. Proper TRAINING and practice paves the way for better shooting. Something that too many fail to do. When I do get into accuracy issues, I blame myself forgetting the fundamentals.

I have to agree. Mine were and are still tack drivers right out of the case. I have three FS 9's,all stock and very well broke in. I can easily keep a 1" group at 15 yards and stay in 2"-3" at 25 yards. Practice,Practice,Practice is the name of the game. That's also after 50+ years of shooting and hunting.

I've seen and watched shooters with all kinds and makes and models shoot over the years. Some are natural,some are just good. About 3/4 couldn't hit a bull in the but with a bango and are usually the "know-it-alls" blaming the gun,ammo and won't listen to any sugestions.

 

[Maddmax]

I just ordered a M&P9 from my LGS. Now I read about all the accuracy issues. Hopefully my gun won't have them. Really how prevalent are they?
How many here have had to deal with them?

Thanks!

sarge1967 I assume stands for rank and service year ??? So you remember the old 1911's we had back then... strictly a close in side arm just short of the bayonet. The M&P's will out shoot them beyond your belief.

Clean and lube it as per manual instructions. Get some reasonable ammo (WWB) will sufice and take your time getting it broke in (don't over heat it). After about 500 rounds,THEN start to make your mind up about parts or keep ing stock.

 

[sarge1967]

sarge1967 I assume stands for rank and service year ??? So you remember the old 1911's we had back then... strictly a close in side arm just short of the bayonet. The M&P's will out shoot them beyond your belief.

Clean and lube it as per manual instructions. Get some reasonable ammo (WWB) will sufice and take your time getting it broke in (don't over heat it). After about 500 rounds,THEN start to make your mind up about parts or keep ing stock.

Actually rank and year of birth. But I did use the old 1911's while I was in. I always shoot at least 500 round through a weapon prior to changing anything.

 

[dswancutt]

Have you had a chance to put so rounds downrange yet?

 

[sarge1967]

No not yet been busy all weekend. Gonna try to this evening.

 

[ladyT]

None of my 4 M&P's have read the articles/blogs that said they were not accurate. Go figure....

Randy

That's what home schooling and keeping them locked up in a dark space will do for ya.

BTW my M&P9 shoots just fine but I would rather shoot my 610 or 25-2 if truth be told.

 

[kris7047th]

That's what home schooling and keeping them locked up in a dark space will do for ya.

BTW my M&P9 shoots just fine but I would rather shoot my 610 or 25-2 if truth be told.

Yup .. don't want to expose them to internet BS

 

[Donn]

I have three M&P 9mm, and I have no issues with any of theses weapons.

So do I. FS, 9c and Shield. Haven't run into any problems either.

 

[sarge1967]

Well I was not able to get any trigger time in this weekend. We had company. Maybe after work on Monday.

 

[Nakanokalronin]

Yup .. don't want to expose them to internet BS

I agree. I also don't expose my guns to brand loyal plausible deniability.

 

[turbo38gn]

The funniest part about this whole topic is, it really is pretty limited in the complaint department, but when you get the same few internet gun guys proclaiming a problem on every board they can join.... it seems more real than it really is... not saying a few aren't having "some kind" of issue, but again, it's not a bullseye gun...

 

[Prof_Fate]

A few guys at the club have gotten 'bad' M&Ps. Sent them back and get a 50% chance of it being better.
Aftermarket barrels seem to be the most reliable fix.

From what they told me the barrel locks up to the slide and there are tolerances of course. If all the tolerances stack the same way you get an innaccurate gun, plain and simple. A 'smith maybe able to file things into tolerance, but it all depends on which way your tolerances lean toward as you can make things smaller but not larger.

 

[M29since14]

I should have known it! Sooner or later, Professor Fate had to show up here.

To some extent, I believe I agree. There is a reason why those after-market barrels sell. If a new gun doesn't quite shoot up to one's expectations, that is something to consider. The 50% chance for improvement with a warranty repair sounds about right, to me.

 

[Prof_Fate]

I talk to a lot of people, and listen too.
Our club has 700 members. I shoot PPC weekly plus my son is on the jr rifle team. I have family that shoots in other states, I talked last week to a guy that owns a reloading company (and has for decades). I ask and I listen. I judge the info I'm given on it's merits, those of the speaker too. Then I think over what I just heard and compare to what i've heard/read elsehwere. And I file it away for future use.
I don't know everything - yet. I"m trying real hard though! But don't ask me anything about shotguns or AR/AKs as I know very little.
I also know i"m not as good a shot at the range as I am in my dreams.

 

[budrichard]

A few guys at the club have gotten 'bad' M&Ps. Sent them back and get a 50% chance of it being better.
Aftermarket barrels seem to be the most reliable fix.

From what they told me the barrel locks up to the slide and there are tolerances of course. If all the tolerances stack the same way you get an innaccurate gun, plain and simple. A 'smith maybe able to file things into tolerance, but it all depends on which way your tolerances lean toward as you can make things smaller but not larger.

What are the different tolerances? Be specific, how to measure dimension, =- tolerance from Factory blueprint.
How does a smith "file things" into tolerance?
How does a dimension out of tolerance affect accuraccy?
Why are after market barrels the most reliable fix? It is difficult to impossibel to objectively measure improvement with an after market barrel and that is how these companies make money. Most who install an aftermarket barrel percieve an improvement and perception is reality but have no way of objectively ascertaining an improvement.-Dick

 

[turbo38gn]

If all I did was replace a barrel and my groups got tighter..... wouldn't that be pretty objectve and telling...

 

[M29since14]

Why are after market barrels the most reliable fix? It is difficult to impossibel to objectively measure improvement with an after market barrel and that is how these companies make money. Most who install an aftermarket barrel percieve an improvement and perception is reality but have no way of objectively ascertaining an improvement.-Dick

Not to try to account for the indiscriminate buyer, but this is really pretty simple. If you are making a living making barrels (not the whole gun), or installing them, you had better make a good barrel and do good installation work. If you make junk or do shoddy work, pretty soon, in this age of the internet and instant communications, you are going to be getting a bit lonely. It is easy, even for a hobbyist shooter, to shoot and measure groups - objectively. Whether it is worth it to invest in a top quality barrel for a duty-grade gun is another matter.