15-22 & Suppressors. Who is using them?

TacoDaTugBoat said:
Seeing as how CT doesn't allow threaded barrels on a weapon with 2 other "evil features" (pistol grip and removable mags), I was thinking something like this might be cool someday.
Perm attach a 6.5" silencer to a barrel cut down to 10". No SBR and no long silencer on the end of the barrel. Fits nice under the hand guard too! But like I said, this would be way down the road.
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Won't work, legally, in Connecticut or any other state. The 16 inches is federal law. The rifled portion of the resulting configuration is still 10 inches - 6 inches short of the legal minimum. You want to go that route, you will need the NFA documentation and tax stamp for an SBR.

Again, it's not a threaded barrel, per se, that is not allowed, it's a bare threaded barrel with nothing permanently attached.
 
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hmm, I am going to have to look into that. I have seen in many other forums where people talk about how they bought a 14" barrel with a 2" flash suppressor to make it the full 16". My understanding was that it makes it more difficult to conceal. And the above example was not a guy making it at home but a factory model. I wish I could remember more specific.
 
TacoDaTugBoat said:
hmm, I am going to have to look into that. I have seen in many other forums where people talk about how they bought a 14" barrel with a 2" flash suppressor to make it the full 16". My understanding was that it makes it more difficult to conceal. And the above example was not a guy making it at home but a factory model. I wish I could remember more specific.
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I just talked to the folks at Jo-Jo's and you are correct and I was wrong. The minimum barrel length, including permanent attachments is 16" with a minimum OAL of 27". The length of the rifled portion of the barrel is immaterial, from a legal standpoint.

Sorry for the bum steer.
 
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All good brother. Like I said, not doing anything anytime soon. Just day dreaming. It would be nice if S&W would sell a complete upper for the 15-22 but it would prob be almost as much as a complete rifle.
 
TacoDaTugBoat said:
Seeing as how CT doesn't allow threaded barrels on a weapon with 2 other "evil features" (pistol grip and removable mags), I was thinking something like this might be cool someday.
Perm attach a 6.5" silencer to a barrel cut down to 10". No SBR and no long silencer on the end of the barrel. Fits nice under the hand guard too! But like I said, this would be way down the road.
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i really like the tactical innovations setup. since i have 2 .22 hosts, it makes more sense to buy a separate can to use on both and id get better performance out of it. however, i really prefer the sbr look vs a can on a pencil thin barrel. with their built-in can, you can stick with just 1 nfa stamp for a suppressor since its 16" overall length. they also do a shorter version which is 10" or 12" which requires 2 stamps.
 
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I have a Sparrow sitting in the safe at local gun shop, waiting for the feds to say OK. I has only been 5 weeks so I still have some time to wait. Meantime I am looking at different pistols to put this can on (in addition to my 15/22).
 
I've been doing tons of research and have been trying to find a silencer that I can use on multiple hosts without having to remove the flash hider every time and that can be taken apart. I also wanted to have just one silencer for both my 5.56 guns and my 15-22, as that saves the $500 of getting a dedicated 22LR one.

I've pretty much settled on the Huntertown Arms Kestrel 556. They're supposed to be coming out with a QD version soon, but you can buy it now and upgrade to the QD later as both end caps can be removed. Actually, the rear portion of their can has the serial number, so the main body, endcaps and baffels can all be changed out for another caliber or for maintenance without having to go through the hassle of paying another tax stamp.
 
Trying to save a buck... I considered buying a 5.56 can and using it with my 15-22 and Sig522, but the more I thought about it it didn't make sense for me.

I shoot my .22 rifles and pistols about 10 times more than my AR. I shoot my 15-22 off hand for extended periods of time and very much enjoy it's light weight. Most 5.56 cans (other than titanium) weigh over a pound, so hanging that much weight from the muzzle of my 15-22 was a non starter for me, and the size and weight made it about useless for my .22 pistols. The thing I like most about shooting suppressed is not having to wear ear protection and enjoying the sounds of the shooting environment. A suppressed 5.56 is about as loud as shooting HV .22 which I wear ear protection when shooting. So.... I asked myself why would I buy a can that I didn't want to use on my .22 rifles or pistols, just so I could use it on an AR and wear ear protection? The answer was... rimfire can. I'm going to get a 5.56 can one of these days but not to save money for use with my .22s.
 
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This.

Don't short yourself, these are possibly life long purchases.
 
Are there any quick attach 22LR silencers?

What's a common sound pressure level for a silenced 22LR with supersonic and/or subsonic ammunition?

Regarding sound levels, although shooting 22LR suppressed may seam hearing safe, it may not be. OSHA's permissible exposure level at 100db is 2 hours per day. NIOSH's recommended exposure level at 100db is 15 minutes per day.
 
Hearing loss and sound is very difficult to quantify anyway.

Most hearing protection does not work as well against impulse noise as it does with continious noise. Gunfire is impulse noise.

There is evidence as well that most of the damage is done through bone induction rather than through the air. That means that if you are shooting the gun, the noise in transferred through the gun and through your bones into your ears. If you are a bystander, the hearing protection you have over your ears isn't as effective as it should be becaue the noise is transferred into your bone structure and almost chanelled into your ears.

Softening the report is good all around for everyone's hearing.

KBK
 
i shoot my 15-22, 10-22 and all my .22 pistols with my dedicated .22 cans and subsonic ammo in the garage all the time. have a nice bullet trap and an improvised one. all you hear is the bolt noise from the rifles, the pistols are a little louder of course.
nothing like shooting in your garage!!
 
roadkill45 said:
i shoot my 15-22, 10-22 and all my .22 pistols with my dedicated .22 cans and subsonic ammo in the garage all the time. have a nice bullet trap and an improvised one. all you hear is the bolt noise from the rifles, the pistols are a little louder of course.
nothing like shooting in your garage!!
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I sure hope you have a way to get the air exchanged in the room. Breathing that mixture is not good for you.

Also, as a side note, I sure hope you live somewhere off the grid where its legal to do what you just explained. Shooting in a residential area is just plain stupid.

As fun as it may be, I would not recommend that to anyone.
 
It's harder to buy a suppressor then the actual firearm that it will be used on. Laws are so outdated its unbelievable. 1930s...?
 
Here it is the other way around. Getting the gun requires applications, fees and licenses. I can and have walked into a shop and bought a suppressor and walked out.
 
live in the county, no issues with neighbors, garage is fine with door open, no biggie.
I was stationed in Germany from 1988-1998 and man when we would visit Scotland, Ireland and a few other places, getting a can was as easy as walking into a Circle K and getting a candy bar! cheap also. Our quandry was, i had all the guns in my quarters, but could not have the cans on post and could not ship them back...:rolleyes: somehow they ended up over here i don't know how they got in that shoe! kept them at a buddies off post place and had a blast.
it is considered inconsiderate to shoot unsuppressed in some civilized countries!
Now buying a gun in a LGS instead of the Rod and Gun club was another story...very expensive, and Red Stag hunts were out of range money wise for most folks.

the bird feeder i put in my backyard has improved my overall shooting. have dove in the freezer year round.
 
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