More Hollywood stupidity

[speedyquad]

If you are using money as a measuring stick for value, or success/worth and intelligence, you might need to rethink your values and evaluation process.

absolutely not, but the fact is, their inconsistencies matter to very few of the viewers. if it did, their paychecks would be less. let's face it, they make a lot of money for not doing much than being creative. they create a fantasy, one which you can choose not to watch if they don't achieve 100% accuracy on everything. their job is to tell a fictional story. the story need to be interesting to keep viewership up. it's more interesting for the 10mm rounds to be rare and used by gangs than if any tom, rick, and harry can buy 500rds a day at the local lgs.

what i am saying though, is the bottom line for them is to tell a story, in an hour, using about 8 days from story concept to final production, all while making as much money as they possibly can. so where you may care about little gun inconsistencies that 99.9% of the rest of the viewers don't know about, much less care, the producers have bigger fish to fry when it comes to production.

i am taking this side as i used to get so annoyed when i would see improper use of atv's in shows and movies. once i allowed myself to understand it is just a work of fiction and not get so bent out of shape, i have been able to enjoy more with less disappointment. this goes for a lot of things, not just hollywood productions...

 

[snubbyfan]

I keep remembering new ones. I've even got my wife catching the discrepancies. I don't remember what we were watching but it had a Glock at slide lock, the character was pulling the trigger and it was going click, click, click as if a hammer was falling on an empty chamber.

 

[Jswiney9]

My favorite was in last night's episode of Grimm on NBC. They made a reference to recovering a .600 nitro express bullet from a person's body. Like that's gonna happen....

im sure not too many people have tested the .600 nitro express on ogres though. that show is MEANT to be a fairytale, kind of different.

 

[riverrat38]

In "Lethal Weapon III", Mel Gibson is about to be crushed by the blade of a large dozer. Danny Glover tosses him a gun that had been taken from a dead bad guy. He yelled "cop killer bullets" as he tossed the gun. Gibson catches the gun and fires the magic bullets through the heavy steel blade, killing the bad guy operator. The bullets make an interesting pyrotechnics display as they penetrate the blade just in the nick of time. The dozer comes to a sudden stop, inches from Gibson.

Rick

 

[Straightshooter2]

My favorite was in last night's episode of Grimm on NBC. They made a reference to recovering a .600 nitro express bullet from a person's body. Like that's gonna happen....

Must have been the 10th person in line. They were probably also trying to find out what cause the very large hole in 9 other people.

CW

 

[mbliss57]

You cannot top this week's episode of CSI NY when they "matched the unfired 9mm cartridges found in the magazine with the ones registered to you in CODIS proving that your gun was used in the crime!"

What is scary is that is what they want to be able to do, hope to be able to do..

 

[BarbC]

Cracked did a great piece about Hollywood and their magical guns: 5 Ridiculous Gun Myths Everyone Believes (Thanks to Movies) | Cracked.com

And this one too! http://www.cracked.com/article_19781_6-stupid-gun-myths-everyone-believes-thanks-to-movies.html?wa_user1=3&wa_user2=Movies+%26+TV&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=yesincite

 

[blujax01]

What is scary is that is what they want to be able to do, hope to be able to do..

A couple we are friends with are not anti but not pro either. From our conversations it is obvious that they think this sort of hooey is real and that everything they know about guns they learned from The Box. They ask how long it took to get all of my firearms registered and how much did that cost? And I don't think they believed me when I told them that in Ohio this is not a requirement. Does the government have a limit on how many I can buy? And my personal favorite: "How many FBI Watch lists do you suppose you're on?" They had no idea that most WalMarts, KMarts etc. as well as some other chain stores sold ammunition.

That's okay, with their permission I got their son a BB gun for his 10th Birthday. Small steps...

 

[The Tourist]

@blujax01, while I agree with you, it's not possible to live "off the grid." At some point in time--even your birth--someone put something into a computer somewhere. Even some of the old timers used to comb cemeteries looking for infants born around their own birth dates. They could get a birth certificate, and since there was no drivers license or credit cards in that name, a new identity could be built. Even that's impossible now.

As for conspiracy theories, I don't frankly care if some black-ops bureau is studying me from somewhere in Area 51. I was once followed around for three days by local law enforcement. Since I have a common motorcycle nickname, the cop followed around the wrong guy from the wrong bike club. Attention Ofc. Fife, Andy wants you back at the office...

For me, it's not so much guns, I see errors in just about all movies and TV show. But personally it's knives. How can any production company make so many mistakes with something safe at one end, and pointy on the other? I mean, it's two, and only two parts!

For example, if the bad guy is Yakuza, the hero is not going to get a scratch his girl friend can bandage up with an Ace Bandage.

I polish tanto knives. His intestines are going to run into his shoes. A cut on the arm goes to the bone.

I also saw Milla Jovovich take a folder right through her forearm and still move her fingers. Out came that Ace Bandage, and she was as good as new. BTW, actors don't get infections from filthy knives...

 

[handejector]

My favorite-
Hero is pursuing BG through a large building/warehouse/woods/wherever.
He has cleared many rooms, walked down several hallways, up a staircase or two, and been expecting an immediate encounter with said BG, who is armed with something good like a SMG with a 1000 rd magazine.
The music eventually tells us contact is iminent, so the hero FINALLY racks his riot gun or the slide on his Superpistol to chamber a round.
Good thinking, Ace.

 

[jag312]

I didn't watch CSI NY, but CODIS has nothing to do with firearms or ammunition. CODIS is a DNA data base of convicted offenders to match to DNA from unsolved crimes. Hopefully, the suspect didn't get so excited about his ammunition that he would deposit a biological substance containing DNA onto his ammunition.

 

[Rule3]

How about rapper ICE T who now plays a Detective on Law Order SVU. He had some real foul rap songs, anti Cop and other stuff before he found out how much money he could make on TV

I will not list the songs here.

As to Blue Bloods, I watched a few of the first episodes, I like Selleck (in other films) but think the show is awful. Everything is just so perfect in the Reagan family.

 

[M3Stuart]

Love it when they think they are "Gangstas" by turning the
handgun sideways to shoot. And the idiots who "never" run
out of ammo on a six shot revolver or the unlimited magazine
on an automatic.

Chuck

Ok, I was flipping channels the other night and caught the end of 'Escape from New York'. At the end, the lady has a Model 67 WITH A SCOPE...she's shooting at the bad guy in the Cadillac with the chandeliers for headlights, she cranks off 6 rounds (no endless 6 shooter). Of course she misses him...guess because it was AT NIGHT the scope didn't help much... I don't recall ever seeing a 67 drilled and tapped for a scope...

 

[feralmerril]

The average movie is geared for a 12 year old mind. The trouble with them is they keep you from watching something intelligent or doing something wortwhile. I just drove 1,250 miles to watch a marathon weekend of the walking dead with relatives rather than visit.
I was born a hundred years too late.

 

[cmort666]

2. The shell casings are 10mm they find, one character says those are rare, then the other mental midget/character says "except in gang shootings, they use them."

But it has to be true. The writer heard it in a hip hop "song"...

 

[pownal55]

What really scares me is these geniuses love to step up to a microphone and tell the rest of us right from wrong and how we should live our lives.

 

[snubbyfan]

Hey now, I'm a cup and saucer fan and I do very well with it....

A lot of people are very good target shooters using the cup and saucer hold.
It's just not a good hold for recoil control and follow up shots.

 

[snubbyfan]

absolutely not, but the fact is, their inconsistencies matter to very few of the viewers. if it did, their paychecks would be less. let's face it, they make a lot of money for not doing much than being creative. they create a fantasy, one which you can choose not to watch if they don't achieve 100% accuracy on everything. their job is to tell a fictional story. the story need to be interesting to keep viewership up. it's more interesting for the 10mm rounds to be rare and used by gangs than if any tom, rick, and harry can buy 500rds a day at the local lgs.

what i am saying though, is the bottom line for them is to tell a story, in an hour, using about 8 days from story concept to final production, all while making as much money as they possibly can. so where you may care about little gun inconsistencies that 99.9% of the rest of the viewers don't know about, much less care, the producers have bigger fish to fry when it comes to production.

i am taking this side as i used to get so annoyed when i would see improper use of atv's in shows and movies. once i allowed myself to understand it is just a work of fiction and not get so bent out of shape, i have been able to enjoy more with less disappointment. this goes for a lot of things, not just hollywood productions...

The idea is to establish reality in an effects or action sequence. While the story is fictional the physics and the mechanics of the devices involved needs to coincide with reality in order to sell the scene. If it's science fiction or fantasy then it's ok for devices to function in a fantastic manner.
These shows are dramas and police procedurals. Based on reality. As such the devices should work as in real life. While it's true most people won't notice a few silly discrepancies I find it distracting and takes away from the story. I've done effects work for some independant films and even though the stories were fictional and fantasy based (zombie films) the action sequences relied heavily on the establishment of reality.
To me it's just sloppy filmaking.

 

[Cooter Brown]

If you have even a basic understanding of any technical field and see some aspect of that technical field portrayed on screen, the way it is portrayed is invariably full of holes. Sometimes in amusing ways. I mean, really, didn't the Duke boys essentially total that car every week? It's entertainment.

I don't see it being worth getting worked up over. I'm sure surgeons get a kick out of watching the Med shows.

One thing I do see as a negative is how people on juries often seem to expect cases to be tied up in a neat little bundle, and expect DNA and rock solid scientific evidence in every case. In my mind there have been a couple of bad decisions made because of this, and prosecutors need to get better about educating juries.

 

[DeathGrip]

Stephen J. Cannell.

You didn't always watch his shows for accuracy but you liked the stories and characters.