What Unlikely Gun Have You Personally Seen Used By A LEO?

Wyatt Burp

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I asked this a few years ago but since there's new members I thought I'd try it again. When I was a kid going to a concert at Winterland in S.F. around 1973, I noticed a husky guard wearing all black, black shades (at night but it was well lit there), a black cop style hat, a black mustache, and a 4" S&W Highway Patrolman on one hip and a short Ruger Blackhawk on the other in a black Sam Brown style rig. It sounds rediculous now but this guy just looked cool to a 16 year old kid like me. What weird, obscure, unlikely, or even possibly useless gun have you seen a LEO or guard use?
 
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I worked with a guy who carried a Mauser pistol in the same leather holster he took from a dead German. My partner carried a nickel 1917 Smith and Wesson .45 he took from a dead Vietnamese guy. A different partner carried a folding stock AK-47 in the car
 
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Back in the late '60s or early '70s, some guy shot one or more Chicago cops. The local news interviewed a cop, and out of his trunk, he produced a Universal "Enforcer", M-1 Carbine pistol which he said he planned to use on the killer.

Not really a cop, but when I went to see "Enter the Dragon" at the old Coral Theater on 95th(?) St., they hired an armed guard to control the crowds. He was a young guy armed with a Webley R.I.C. revolver. He said it was a .455.
 
Back in the revolver days, it was pretty darn odd to see a cop with a 1911 on his hip. Nowadays a guy carrying a revolver makes you look twice!

An old sheriff friend used to have a High Standard bullpup semiauto shotgun he used. I tried talking him into buying an S&W M76 on the sheriffs letterhead but he didn't see any use of it (dangit anyway!:D) He and some of his deputies carried Model 58s......
 
One of my uncles was a security guard a LRAFB from almost the day it opened until he retired in the late 1980's. Once I asked him what he carried on duty and he showed me a US marked Colt 1903 in 32 ACP. I asked how he ended up with that and he said when he hired on they let him pick through a rack of pistols that contained S&W revolvers, 1911s and the 1903. He chose the 1903. I've often wondered what happened to that pistol.
 
I saw a local cop north of Payson AZ with a 1911 on one side, and a Ruger SP101 on the other.

I didn't have a chance to chat, but it seems to me he one pistol for the two-legged critters and one pistol for the four-legged critters. He looked like a pretty serious hombre.
 
Growing up in Missouri

Hi Burp,
Growing up around here was like a TV western.
Chief Ray Fadler carried a poorly nickle plated, Single Action Army in .45 Colt. Officer Claussen could be found with any number of odd things but A holstered, pistol length, sawed off, double barrel, 12 gauge took the cake. Officer Rick Woleich Packed a Broom handle Mauser for a while.
The Sheriff's office was a little better with Sheriff Clarence Basler packing a 3 1/2" 27. It was a neat old gun, but it was about as finish worn as any gun I've ever seen. I wonder from time to time what ever happened to it.
Clarence is up in the rest home. I keep saying I am going to go see him, he was always nice to me.
Thanks
Mike
 
Knew a trooper who used to carry a Walther .22 auto for dispatching injured deer along the highway. Didn't like the issue 4 inch .357 because it hurt his ears...

Larry
 
When I joined a large city PD in 1972 there was a
older officer that just drove the "wagon" between Central station and
the sub-stations transfering urgent paperwork.

He had joined the PD 40 years prior....1932.
He carried an Old Colt SAA in 45 4 3/4 barrel...administration
gave him a break.

Alot of old detectives carried Auto/Burglar shotguns in their warbag.

1972 the most patrol cars still had no cages much less plexiglass
screens between the front and back seat.
Local deputy stopped by last week and I looked inside his unit
and it looked like the space shuttle cockpit to me.
 
Someone working locally in "plain clothes" carries a Taurus 85 in an ankle holster.

Says he just loves that little gun and that it's never failed him.
 
Here's another one. When I was about 15 I was at Sears with my dad. Standing by a door was a tall lean black gentleman in a uniform of sorts and a police style hat. You know, shaped like Hogan's on Hogan's Heroes. He had a buscadero cowboy rig on. I asked him what his single action was and he said a Hawes .38 Special. I guess it was a .357 but he used .38's in it. He was a cool customer.
 
There is an older gentleman here (late 70's) who still transfers prisoneers. he carries a model 29. I asked him about it and he said that most of the prisoners see a 6 1/2" barrel and dont give him any grief. :D
 
I've probably mentioned it elsewhere but we had a local officer who sometimes carried a Baby Browning .25 when not in uniform. The gun wasn't so unusual but he wore it in a ridiculous leather belt holster with safety strap, similar to the type you would have seen back then that were used to carry K22s. The holster no doubt weighed half again what the gun weighed, and it was definitely a lot bigger. One day I overheard the Chief give him the word to change over to a Model 60, which he had come up with from somewhere, and he had offered to sell to me. So, there went my chance to buy a Model 60 when they were impossible to buy in a gun shop.

The Chief was a Marine who wore a 1911 in his everyday dress (street clothes). I rarely saw him in uniform. He carried the .45 according to what told me was "regulations" (chamber empty, but he had a loaded magazine in his gun). He did not think much of carrying it with a round in the chamber. He considered it "dangerous." He was a good egg. Later became mayor and was fairly well-liked in the community. I often wondered if the .45 got stashed in his desk drawer while he was mayor, or if it was left at home. :)

The majority of local officers carried Model 15s. I remember a couple Model 39s but I don't recall seeing a uniform wearing one - just a detective or two. The 39s seem to be considered something less than a serious gun. In the county we had a couple of town marshals who had Ruger single-actions. One of them also had some kind of odd autoloader that he would wear from time to time but I can't recall what it was. It was fairly small gun with extensive finish wear, probably a 7.65 of some sort, possibly of German or East European origin brought back from WWII? Whatever it was, it did not seem very impressive.

Shotguns were common - mainly Ithacas and sometimes a Model 12 or Model 97. I often saw officers with them. I guess if they fired one to destroy a dog or something the gun had to be brought into the station for cleaning. There were some lever action rifles, not many, maybe two or three '94 Winchesters (?), and there were at least a couple Thompsons somewhere but I only remember seeing them once outside of the city building. It was a sad night. A state policeman was killed by a suspect he was trying to arrest that he thought did not present any sort of threat. I think that night every gun the cops had was out on the street.

Once in a while I noticed a state policeman with an M-1 Carbine. They were a little more hidebound to the rules. I remember wondering if they would be in the cruisers during an inspection. :)

Finally, I do remember one state police bigshot with a nickel 4-inch Model 57 with custom stocks that he carried in a carved Tom Threepersons style holster with matching belt. Pretty nifty rig. He came up from Indianapolis on a very special detail that lasted for several days. I saw him and the 57 once, then he was gone. Probably had had enough of thrashing around in the mud and sticks with a heavy revolver on his belt. It was the only N-frame I ever saw a policeman wearing in Indiana.
 
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I've probably mentioned it elsewhere but we had a local officer who sometimes carried a Baby Browning .25 when not in uniform. The gun wasn't so unusual but he wore it in a ridiculous leather belt holster with safety strap, similar to the type you would have seen back then that were used to carry K22s. The holster no doubt weighed half again what the gun weighed, and it was definitely a lot bigger. One day I overheard the Chief give him the word to change over to a Model 60, which he had come up with from somewhere, and he had offered to sell to me. So, there went my chance to buy a Model 60 when they were impossible to buy in a gun shop.
Speaking of guns carried as "badges of authority", back in the '70s when Continental Bank was still around, their guards at the main downtown branch wore fancy brown dress uniforms that you'd swear were modeled after the full dress N.S.D.A.P. uniforms that party officials wore on special occasions, down to the peaked caps.

One of them, a supervisor I think, topped this off with a 2" 36 with adjustable sights, in a full blown belt rig with safety strap.

I was always amused by the ostentatiousness of the whole thing...

As an aside, before Pachmayrs and Hogues became popular, I used to occasionally see Chicago cops with the grips of their revolvers heavily festooned with rubber bands. A cheap set of "Pachmayrs", I guess.
 
When I first came to work for our small town our Police carried pretty much anything they wanted. Most carried a plain old Model 10. A few Model 19s. Some carried a DA 9mm of some sort. S&Ws and Rugers were popular then.
A couple carried 1911s, we had one detective that used a Hi-Power and one old Sergeant carried a S&W 25-5 .45 Colt.

A good friend of mine was a retired LEO from Missouri. He had carried a 6" Model 29 most of his career. When he passed away he left it to me. Its one of my most prized possesions.

But the one that takes the cake, I saw a security guard one night carrying a cheap nickel plated 1911 knock off with immitation pearl grips in a floral carved holster. It was all I could do to keep from laughing. :D
 
In 1977 I was flying my citaberia from california to wisconsin. The weather forced me down at murdo S.Dakota for about three days. A traveling FBI agent also got forced down at the same time. I spent my time rideing around with the old county sheriff, "Mac Mc something". The agent pal`ed up with the younger city police. Mac had a old nickle .45 colt single action 4 3/4" with the black gutta percha grips. He drove a old red 1966 or so comet with springs poked up through the seat. He had a single barrel shotgun.
Mac was the entire county sheriff department at that time. I think he mostly served warrants back then. He even wore bib overalls and a stetson! Somewhere if I can find it I have a picture of him standing by my airplane when he gave me a ride to it when the weather lifted and I left.
I wouldnt be supprised if its a 30 man department today!
 
Northwestern Il. in the 60's saw a small town "marshall" with a holstered 4in. 22lr Colt Woodsman. High Hill , Mo. early 70's, local constable running a speed trap with the best, fully equipped most modern ford interceptor that I have ever seen using a 22lr Ruger Single Six. I paid a $25.00 "city summons" to the city clerk who lived behind her husband's gas station. The best part of this story is, after I paid the ticket I joined the constable, the clerk and her husband at the kitchen table, that also served as a desk ,in sharing a piece of fresh baked hot out of the oven ,cherry pie and ice cream. Good ole Missouri hospitality. While the speed trap fleeced out of town drivers, they were still nice people. As a young patrol officer on a good size Il pd in the late 60's most of the old timers who were combat vets of WW11 and Korea, had quite a variety of foreign and US Infantry automatic weapons that came out of nowhere when ever something serious was going on. THose days ,however, are long gone.
 
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