Likelyhood of magazine ban ???
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danysw
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Charles Krauthammer offered his current assessment just the other day on Fox News. He said that he's seeing very little opposition to expanding background checks. A magazine limit appears to have about a 50/50 chance, and it's less than likely an assault weapons ban will pass. That's his snapshot of the moment.
It was just a few weeks ago that I heard him say that he thought any gun control was unlikely to pass. So... his current observations aren't very encouraging.
It was just a few weeks ago that I heard him say that he thought any gun control was unlikely to pass. So... his current observations aren't very encouraging.
panfish_slayer
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I can see it happening. I hear a lot of people saying "why would anyone need more than 5 rounds?" My opinion is I think we as gun owners need to educate others about how 5 or 10 rounds isn't enough in the world today. When people think about needing to use a gun, a lot of them think it would be for 1-2 at the most. But, say I was confronted by a gang of 5-10 people, all with knives, baseball bats, and guns that were going to try to hurt me. If I needed to take action and shoot to defend myself, I wouldn't have have a chance because there are more threats then I have bullets. Hence the educating people about todays world. Sorry for the long response, just figured I'd get my idea out there.
I agree panfish. I get tire of this need thing. The other side wants us to give up our liberty because they think we do not "need" a high cap mag. There are alot of things some would say I do not need. Examples are a car that goes 100mph or alcohol. Need is not the basis of our liberty or rights.
The governmment's role is to listen to the "needs" of the citizenry, and, if possible, search for a solution to those needs. It's not the goverment's role to determine whether those needs are justified. A government that take it upon itself, to establish or determine the needs of it's people, is not a government for, or by, the people, but a tyranny.
blazzinbird
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I don't see a awb. I think a background will pass. The senate is in a bad situation, see how they are scared about being re elected. And the GOP has controll of the house
My impression from what I have read is that there is some support for universal background checks and magazine capacity limits, even among Republicans, but that an AWB is unlikely. I think they feel that compromising on the background checks and magazine capacity limits is a "safe" compromise that most gun owners would reluctantly accept, but not a ban.
An AWB won't affect me personally, since I don't own anything but handguns. A magazine capacity limit of 10 rounds will be a minor inconvenience, since the largest capacity magazines I have hold 12 rounds (assuming that current magazines are grandfathered, or allowed to be modified to 10 rounds.) However, I hasten to add that this issue is not just about me personally, and I will never forget nor vote for any candidate who sells out our collective freedom and rights.
I am on the fence about background checks...I could accept that IF and ONLY IF there was a stipulation that a FFL had to charge a standard, flat fee of some minimal amount. Even as I write this, though, I know this won't solve the problem...criminals won't suddenly start buying guns legally, any more than they do now. It may make them more expensive, but they will still be available.
An AWB won't affect me personally, since I don't own anything but handguns. A magazine capacity limit of 10 rounds will be a minor inconvenience, since the largest capacity magazines I have hold 12 rounds (assuming that current magazines are grandfathered, or allowed to be modified to 10 rounds.) However, I hasten to add that this issue is not just about me personally, and I will never forget nor vote for any candidate who sells out our collective freedom and rights.
I am on the fence about background checks...I could accept that IF and ONLY IF there was a stipulation that a FFL had to charge a standard, flat fee of some minimal amount. Even as I write this, though, I know this won't solve the problem...criminals won't suddenly start buying guns legally, any more than they do now. It may make them more expensive, but they will still be available.
danysw
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For me any magazine capacity limit IS A MAYOR INCONVENIENCE AND A VIOLATION OF MY 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHT Lol converting my Sig P226 Tac Ops factory 20 round magazines in 10 rounders sounds like a mayor stupidity.
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blazzinbird
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I have a 17 round feed tube, 25 round mag, and 3 35 round mags, that would have to be grandfathered in. They would be preban. Of course my 15-22 with10 round mag wouldn't bother me.
You really think their end goal is an AWB and if they got that they will just quietly go away and leave us alone? An AWB directly effects you as a gun owner of any gun. Just b/c you dont own the type of gun they are targeting now, does not mean you dont own the type of gun they will target later on if they get the ball rolling in their favor.
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Travis15R has it on target as I see it.
They are never going to stop. Count on it. Divide and conquer sound familiar.
Guess what else has a pistol grip. I'm hoping everyone knows the answer.
Just some things that go through my mind.
I've had guns for over 40 years. The blink of an eye now that I think of it. But the anti gun thought has been going on longer than that.
They are never going to stop. Count on it. Divide and conquer sound familiar.
Guess what else has a pistol grip. I'm hoping everyone knows the answer.
Just some things that go through my mind.
I've had guns for over 40 years. The blink of an eye now that I think of it. But the anti gun thought has been going on longer than that.
I direct you to the rest of my post, where I said: "However, I hasten to add that this issue is not just about me personally, and I will never forget nor vote for any candidate who sells out our collective freedom and rights."
I did not then nor do I now mean that an AWB is OK with me just because I don't own one. I do fully realize and support that we all have rights....or none of us do.
don't count on grandfathered.
If you look at the recent New York legislation, and the proposed California legislation, there is no grandfather clauses. There is only a stated time period to sell to someone out-of-state or turn them in. Once they are illegal, they are illegal, it doesn't matter if you owned them before the law was passed!
I am not an attorney, but this is what I've read in this forum and the left and East coast papers.
MY OPINION- they don't want alot of grandfathers, they want immediate confiscation.
If you look at the recent New York legislation, and the proposed California legislation, there is no grandfather clauses. There is only a stated time period to sell to someone out-of-state or turn them in. Once they are illegal, they are illegal, it doesn't matter if you owned them before the law was passed!
I am not an attorney, but this is what I've read in this forum and the left and East coast papers.
MY OPINION- they don't want alot of grandfathers, they want immediate confiscation.
Capt.Jim
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These anti-gun activists, mostly who never bought, sold or used a gun in their lives or served in the armed forces of any type, have the audacity to tell us why nobody needs more than xx rounds in their magazines or why nobody needs an AR15 type of gun for defensive measures...
and, they expect us to say, "oh, I see, I never realized that" and accept their nonsense.
I feel like a vegan telling me why I need to eat filet-mignon.
Strange isn't it?
and, they expect us to say, "oh, I see, I never realized that" and accept their nonsense.
I feel like a vegan telling me why I need to eat filet-mignon.
Strange isn't it?
Harrison
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Magazine and assault weapon ban is already occurring at the state level and may expand to other states. If your state bans normal magazines and semi-auto rifles and pistols, it doesn't much matter what the feds do. Look at California's proposed gun laws, and they most likely have the votes in the Cali leglislature to pass those laws.
beemerphile
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I have not "needed" a 30 round mag yet. But I have also not yet needed to use my arms to defend the security of a free state. So, just as I have not needed my 10 lb. dry chemical fire extinguisher, I keep it against that contingency.
It is not about hunting. It is not about one, or two, or ten thugs. Take away all the rifles and mags "even if it only saves one life" and the crazy person needs only to break a gas pipe in the school and set a candle at the other end. Then ALL of the children will die.
It is not about hunting. It is not about one, or two, or ten thugs. Take away all the rifles and mags "even if it only saves one life" and the crazy person needs only to break a gas pipe in the school and set a candle at the other end. Then ALL of the children will die.
Well, there you have the difference between conservative/gun owners and liberal/anti-gunners: gun owners basically say, "If you don't want to own a gun, don't own one; gun ownership is each individual's choice." The anti-gunners say, "I don't want to own guns, and I want to prevent you from owning one too."
Their definition of freedom is that everyone is free to agree with (and live by) their opinion.
So you think it won't happen?
Colorado House committee passes two gun control bills
7NEWS - Bill requiring universal background checks for gun purchases passed by Colorado House committee - Local Story
Company Threatens To Leave Colorado If Ammo Limit Law Is Passed
That company would be Magpul... I think you might have heard of them..
Company Threatens To Leave Colorado If Ammo Limit Law Is Passed « CBS Denver
Colorado House committee passes two gun control bills
7NEWS - Bill requiring universal background checks for gun purchases passed by Colorado House committee - Local Story
Company Threatens To Leave Colorado If Ammo Limit Law Is Passed
That company would be Magpul... I think you might have heard of them..
Company Threatens To Leave Colorado If Ammo Limit Law Is Passed « CBS Denver
