Aahzz
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I'm 6 feet tall. No problem drawing the Shield from a front pocket.
Anyone else notice the irritation from Kahr owners about the shield
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I'm 6 feet tall. No problem drawing the Shield from a front pocket.
jim28080
Member
Why are so many comparing the Shield with the Kahr PM9/CM9? The Shield is the size of a Kahr P9/CW9.
I own both size Kahrs and a Shield. These are all great guns. The Shield has a trigger that is much better for people who started on striker fired pistols and the extra weight helps keep recoil way down.
The Kahrs have long smooth double action triggers similar but better IMO than any revolver trigger.
Apples and oranges....
I own both size Kahrs and a Shield. These are all great guns. The Shield has a trigger that is much better for people who started on striker fired pistols and the extra weight helps keep recoil way down.
The Kahrs have long smooth double action triggers similar but better IMO than any revolver trigger.
Apples and oranges....
Kahr Fans At Least Love Their Mothers
I suspect Kahr fans are a little annoyed with the smooooth short trigger and flawless performance of the gun of the year but at least they love their mothers.
Kahr Forum would make any mother gush with pride. These guys obviously were taught to love their mothers.
I posted a Happy Mother’s Day on the Beretta Forum and got zero yes zero replies. Beretta fans need their mouth washed with life boy and sent to bed with no dinner.
Russ
I suspect Kahr fans are a little annoyed with the smooooth short trigger and flawless performance of the gun of the year but at least they love their mothers.
Kahr Forum would make any mother gush with pride. These guys obviously were taught to love their mothers.
I posted a Happy Mother’s Day on the Beretta Forum and got zero yes zero replies. Beretta fans need their mouth washed with life boy and sent to bed with no dinner.
Russ
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rbrooks1432
I am a committed S&W owner (M&P 9, 9c, Shield 9, and M&P 15). I also own the Glock 19 and......the Kahr CW9. I bought the Kahr for easy concealed carry. Then the Shield comes out. I grabbed one ASAP.
KAHR and Glock--really good guns. M&P---GREAT GUNS!
No gun, once purchased, should ever be sold. Just like your dog. Love them and care for them. Don't sell them or give them away.
I am a committed S&W owner (M&P 9, 9c, Shield 9, and M&P 15). I also own the Glock 19 and......the Kahr CW9. I bought the Kahr for easy concealed carry. Then the Shield comes out. I grabbed one ASAP.
KAHR and Glock--really good guns. M&P---GREAT GUNS!
No gun, once purchased, should ever be sold. Just like your dog. Love them and care for them. Don't sell them or give them away.
While I've never owned a Kahr, or lurked the Kahr forums, I have noticed a bunch of Kahr owners, on the forums I do frequent, trading them for the Shield.
Like Rbrooks, I try not to sell off or trade guns. Variety is nice.
Like Rbrooks, I try not to sell off or trade guns. Variety is nice.
I'm 5' 9" and 200 pounds. So I don't have big deep pockets like big guys do. That half an inch is why I bought the Kahr.
But as I said before, I already have an M&P compact and the Shield doesn't fill a niche for me.
Besides, I really don't think that S&W designed the Shield to be a pocket gun. But if it works, great!
I've owned a couple of Kahr pistols...but grew weary of all the fixes you had to do to make them run. I rarely heard of anyone having to squeeze and sand a S&W magazine to get it to run right, much less most of them!
The Kahr was a good carry gun, for me, and comfortable...but when the Shield came out, I thought it might be the one I had been looking for. When I handled it, I knew it was.
The one point I'd like to make that is a significant factor for me: the lifetime warranty. S&W warrants their guns for life; Kahr for 5 years. I prefer to do business with companies who have enough faith in their products to stand by them like that...and with good CS as well.
The Kahr was a good carry gun, for me, and comfortable...but when the Shield came out, I thought it might be the one I had been looking for. When I handled it, I knew it was.
The one point I'd like to make that is a significant factor for me: the lifetime warranty. S&W warrants their guns for life; Kahr for 5 years. I prefer to do business with companies who have enough faith in their products to stand by them like that...and with good CS as well.
yeah, I own both...but
I have found that due to the fact I have fairly large hands, even though the kahr pm9 has the 7 ammo clip with the extra length, it is uncomfortable to fire when compaed to my shield. I am trading the kahr for a. 40 shield. I like both and i dont have a problem with either as far as a carry pistol but just my big fat hands, the shield wins out. I like the fact that it also is less expensive and has a lifetime warranty.
Gunnewbie
I have found that due to the fact I have fairly large hands, even though the kahr pm9 has the 7 ammo clip with the extra length, it is uncomfortable to fire when compaed to my shield. I am trading the kahr for a. 40 shield. I like both and i dont have a problem with either as far as a carry pistol but just my big fat hands, the shield wins out. I like the fact that it also is less expensive and has a lifetime warranty.
Gunnewbie
Just found this thread...
I have owned Kahrs since they were first introduced. Still own a TP9, a PM9, and two P380s. Would not sell them.
Own two 9mm Shields, too. The Shield is my EDC. Do not try to pocket carry it, though. Not my style of carry, except for the P380s.
Different guns; all good guns. Keeping all of them.
I have owned Kahrs since they were first introduced. Still own a TP9, a PM9, and two P380s. Would not sell them.
Own two 9mm Shields, too. The Shield is my EDC. Do not try to pocket carry it, though. Not my style of carry, except for the P380s.
Different guns; all good guns. Keeping all of them.
I own a PM9 and a Shield. I am a poster on both forums. I do not recall a lot of negative talk on either forum. They are two totally different guns. As far as reliability goes, neither of the guns have given me any problems. Small firearms can, and will be, a problem for a lot of shooters. Some figure it out and others never do. At the range I work at, I see these guns, from Kimber Solo's, to Ruger LCP's for sale because their owner cannot make them function properly. I can't tell you how many husbands buy these things for their wives because they are "small and cute". After ten minutes of frustration I hand that person my Ruger MK III with volquartsen innards, and their life changes. Then, we start working on how to shoot small guns.
I have made modifications to my Kahr magazines that took less than ten total minutes for all three of them. Kahr does not do it because they want Kahr users to use the slide release to chamber the first round. I want to have the option to very slowly and quietly chamber a round. The mods I did gave me that option. Problem solved. The sights on my Shield I felt were not satisfactory and I changed them to Ameriglo's, problem solved. I also changed the sear in my Shield. For me, a much needed improvement.
Never tell anyone the Shield is the same size as a PM9/CM9. They are not even close. I am a instructor and I carry both, but IMHO the Shield is not a great pocket pistol. It does everything else well, but a pocket pistol is a stretch. I guess it depends on your definition of a pocket. For me, it is lightweight wool dress pants.
As someone previously stated, the trigger systems should be the primary guide to making your choice. If you are a DA fan, look hard at a Kahr. If you lean to traditional striker fired trigger systems with a larger magazine capacity, The Shield may be for you. If thickness is not really a big deal, get the M&P 9 compact. That gun is dimensionally the same size as the Shield and carries a lot more rounds.
I have made modifications to my Kahr magazines that took less than ten total minutes for all three of them. Kahr does not do it because they want Kahr users to use the slide release to chamber the first round. I want to have the option to very slowly and quietly chamber a round. The mods I did gave me that option. Problem solved. The sights on my Shield I felt were not satisfactory and I changed them to Ameriglo's, problem solved. I also changed the sear in my Shield. For me, a much needed improvement.
Never tell anyone the Shield is the same size as a PM9/CM9. They are not even close. I am a instructor and I carry both, but IMHO the Shield is not a great pocket pistol. It does everything else well, but a pocket pistol is a stretch. I guess it depends on your definition of a pocket. For me, it is lightweight wool dress pants.
As someone previously stated, the trigger systems should be the primary guide to making your choice. If you are a DA fan, look hard at a Kahr. If you lean to traditional striker fired trigger systems with a larger magazine capacity, The Shield may be for you. If thickness is not really a big deal, get the M&P 9 compact. That gun is dimensionally the same size as the Shield and carries a lot more rounds.
dullh
Member
I paid $307 for my CW9. I wasn't about to dump $600+ into one of the "better ones". Plus, my "low end" CW9 has, without exception, the smoothest trigger I've ever felt in a handgun it's size (had to install the $92 DCAEK to get my FS M&P's trigger to acceptability). My CW9 is simple, reliable with all the ammo I've tried so far, and after I put my Kahr up against a Shield at the range a few months ago, I decided to keep the Kahr and spend the money I would have dropped in the Shield into a couple cases of ammo instead.
Whatever you choose, practice with it. Then practice some more.
Whatever you choose, practice with it. Then practice some more.
remat457
Member
I have never understood why firearms and motorcycle owners take what others buy/carry so personally. Untill someone else pays for it, I will buy/carry what I want 
2tango2
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I have never understood why firearms and motorcycle owners take what others buy/carry so personally. Untill someone else pays for it, I will buy/carry what I want
As a Harley owner I know exactly what you are saying. My previous ride was a Honda VTX 1300 and I have nothing bad to say about any brand of bike/gun. I might not care for a particular gun/bike but that is my problem/issue no?
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gmiller0737
Member
I don't have either My Carry Guns are a S&W 60-7 or a Ruger LCP .380 or on Occasion a Stainless Colt Officers ACP and once in a while a HK USP 9,The Shield I am sure is decent however it does nothing for Me & if I had to choose between the Kahr & Shield the Kahr would be My choice,The whole M&P series I just can't warm up to & I will be getting a S&W 3913 sometime in the future as I much prefer the 3rd Gen S&W to the M&P.
OLDSTER
Member
I own both a P380 and CM9, and think they are the finest single stack deep concealment pistols on the market. But I'm also a S&W revolver nut and think the same of them. I am active on both forums, and have not noticed any particular distain over the Shield or any other semi-auto for that matter. All forums debate the perceived pluses and minuses of any gun including their own brands.
Erich
Member
I'm a Kahr owner, and I hope that everyone enjoys reliable service and satisfying use from their Shields, Kahrs or whatever. So, to the OP, nope - I haven't noticed that.
Dogman125
Member
I own a kahr cm9. I don't why y'all are complaining. I carry a full size M&P45 in my pocket. Yeah, it is a big, deep pocket, but I have teenage daughters, so I don't have any money to take up space. My M&P fits nice! Actually lost it in my pocket once. Glad I found it.
If you think teenage boys are cheap I would be glad to loan you mine for a short while, as long as you promise to take good care of him.
Dogman125
Member
M29since14, I am a firm believer in the fact that there are many things that are scarce around homes with teenagers. Money, food, patience. I'll have to decline on your offer. We just got rid of our two boys. But, I'll be glad to give you two girls! They do an excellent job on cleaning guns, of course, they have a tendency to want to shoot all your ammo though.
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