BigBill
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There's another company who manufactures the clone to the ar15 in CT who also said he going to move also thats another 200 people without jobs. Ct is going to have its own depression because of stupidity.
Colt to Relocate???
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If Colt does move,,it'll be interesting to hear the explanation from the unions to their members about why they weren't able to save the local jobs.
Colt's been a wreck since they lost most of the Gov't AR contacts and the Services switched to the Beretta as the service pistol.
They haven't had a firearm in the running as a police weapon in too many years to count. Their last best efferot was the MkIII Revolver brought out just in time to see the collapse of the revolver as the standard L/E issue weapon in the US.
Then they rolled out the 2000 All America 9mm semi auto for Police/Military use. It may as well have said 'Hi-Point' on it for all the buzz it got from this targeted communitys,
Do they even make anything marketable anymore that makes a real life profit? Or is the Colt division just a write off on the big Corporate white board at the head office.
I'm wondering if the entire Colt industries Firearms division may just go away,, being unable to supply enough products to a market that would in turn support keeping their doors open.
Colt's been a wreck since they lost most of the Gov't AR contacts and the Services switched to the Beretta as the service pistol.
They haven't had a firearm in the running as a police weapon in too many years to count. Their last best efferot was the MkIII Revolver brought out just in time to see the collapse of the revolver as the standard L/E issue weapon in the US.
Then they rolled out the 2000 All America 9mm semi auto for Police/Military use. It may as well have said 'Hi-Point' on it for all the buzz it got from this targeted communitys,
Do they even make anything marketable anymore that makes a real life profit? Or is the Colt division just a write off on the big Corporate white board at the head office.
I'm wondering if the entire Colt industries Firearms division may just go away,, being unable to supply enough products to a market that would in turn support keeping their doors open.
Doesn't Colt's make a .380 Pocketlite or something?
That is supposed to be a pretty fine firearm. There's still
a lot of charisma attached to the name.
TACC1
That is supposed to be a pretty fine firearm. There's still
a lot of charisma attached to the name.
TACC1
TexasCajun
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Nice to see someone on else on here from Da Ville!
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Alnamvet68
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That's always been a myth...Colt dying and all; the $22.5 million dollar contract just from the USMC alone, for their new M45 CQB Pistol (M1911A1 with rails and dressed in drag) isn't chump change. Thousands of civilians are on a waiting list to get their hands on one of them, myself included. I think Colt will always be fine.
Stevie
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Hmmm....if these companys decide to move to another non-liberal state...I will buy a Colt, Marlin, and Remington firearm from each as soon as they move.
I will support any shooting sports company(magpul too) that bails on a liberal state with my money.
I'm already doing my level best to NOT buy anything from liberal owned business
I will support any shooting sports company(magpul too) that bails on a liberal state with my money.
I'm already doing my level best to NOT buy anything from liberal owned business
jaykellogg
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I am sure if they move it'll be a business decision, not a political decision. In this economy, there are plenty of places willing to offset or at least partially offset the cost to move, so that doesn't seem like a factor.
Regarding Colt's business, if they'd get more product in front of their customers they would sell more. At On Target here in Asheville, I looked for a 1911 with the 1911/2011 roll mark for a year and never did see one. They are an authorized Colt retailer and never got one of the guns (I am aware of). I did speak to them about it and they told me "we can't get any". It was like trying to find a Model 29 S&W in the '70s.
Regarding Colt's business, if they'd get more product in front of their customers they would sell more. At On Target here in Asheville, I looked for a 1911 with the 1911/2011 roll mark for a year and never did see one. They are an authorized Colt retailer and never got one of the guns (I am aware of). I did speak to them about it and they told me "we can't get any". It was like trying to find a Model 29 S&W in the '70s.
sureshotbob
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BigBill The other AR 15 company is Stag Arms based in
New Britian,Ct .They also employ a lot of local sub contractors.
New Britian,Ct .They also employ a lot of local sub contractors.
Not really a myth if you'd have seen the place rolling along in the early & mid 70's. Things were really great but they didn't pay any attention to competition.
They really fell off the wagon in the 80's with a labor strike that lasted something like 5 years.
They ended up loosing the M16 contract their QC was so bad with the bussed in workers they had doing the work at the time.
The US Military started having FN make the things for us.
Their commercial products from the time are very hot and cold in quality.
From intro'g a new revolver when most everyone in a LEO uniform wanted a semi-auto, to the M2000 9mm disasterpiece, just no leadership at all.
Part of the strike settlement was that the Labor union and the State of CT owned Colt.
Sound familiar?
They went bankrupt anyway.
It didn't help that the new installed Colt boss pulled a 'Bill Ruger' and said some sort of Federal Gun Permit would be fine with him. That really pulled the company under .
Folks just didn't take the words kindly and Colt was on the **** list for a few years.
Then they wasted most of the Clinton years promising those people they'd come up with smart gun technology to save the children.
Probably hoping to make them look good in light of anti 2A politicians.
Nothing ever became of it. Nothing went in to Colt R&D either.
Now there's two separate companys,,'Colt Manufacturing' (civilian firearms for lack of a better term) ,,,and 'Colt Defense' over in W. Hartford that does their Military contract work. Colt Defense is getting that $22.5mil .
That's been since 2002 or 03. New boss with some real brains but a real hard line toward Defense&LE weapons. That's his background (former USMC) and that's where I think the company is headed.
I'd imagine the Defense company is the money maker right now and has no problems as far as selling their products here and all over the world to gov't and police agencys.
The Defense contract work was the big money right along since the M16 came on line.
Disliking the impending CT state laws over A/W may be the excuse to leave rather than the real reason I believe.
The type of labor and surrounding needed to make either being what they are,,I'd guess the Defense company would be the one that sticks around and probably in a more favorable location as far as taxes, climate, (lack of) unions and more friendly local gov'ts are concerned.
I'd personally like them all to stay afloat and put a lot of people to work.
We'll have to see I guess.
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Considering Colt's long and rich history of throwing the gun buying public under the bus in favor of government contracts. I would be very surprised if they follow through on this threat.
It would be cool for me
I'd like the roll stamps to read 'Ladson, South Carolina'. I'm sure my county would cut sweet deals to get these companies to move here.
I'd like the roll stamps to read 'Ladson, South Carolina'. I'm sure my county would cut sweet deals to get these companies to move here.
Frank46
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Now that would be really neat. Colt's firearms manufactured here in Louisiana. Frank
I hate to see people losing there job, but ya I agree. I am guessing these companies will offer some employees the a job at the new plant. Not the first people have had to move for a job.
GregoryJ
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I just wonder if part or all of the old Hoover plant in North Canton could be adapted for firearms manufacturing? Maybe Magpul could relocate here too.
For their long term health, they'd better better off in SC or Tn, skip the purple turning blue states.
Doug.38PR
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Bastrop, Louisiana recently has had a vacancy in factory/business space with the loss of the towns IP paper mill. Come on down Colt! We'd be glad to have you!
Well they won't move to Pennsylvania because our Commonwealth has some of the highest business taxes in the country. We get new businesses in taking advantage of "Keystone Opportunity Zones" which suspend local property taxes for 5 to 10 years. When the tax abatement ends, the businesses all pack-up and move to a southern state!
SONY,VW are the 2 biggies I remember
BigBill
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Thats it Stag arms the owner said they will move out of CT too. What if marlin and winchester goes too? Ct will be a gun manufacturer ghost town.
We need to put these politciians who are pushing the gun control buttons like Chris Murphy out of work too I hope no one re-elects him. Voting time should be payback time wether they vote for the gun ban bill or not, just for opening up there mouths supporting a gun ban bill they need to go too.
We the people elect the politicians who will support our needs and desires to the world of politics but they seem to forget that and go in with there won agenda. They forget who puts money in there pockets and gives them a job, its us the voters. We need to hit the politicians really hard so this stuff will never happen again and we need to vote them all out. We aren't sheep.
The anti's in CT already got there foot in the door when we lost the ak47 even though no crimes were commited here. We needed more support back then too. Now is the time to stand our ground in CT along with the rest of the states and show the numbers who support the good safe gun ownership.
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