Groups at 100 yards

First and only time shooting at 100 yards. Stock iron sights from the bench with CCI standard velocity on a 6"X10" target. Front sight post completely covers the paper.
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Nice pattern --are those 7s or 8s?
 
I'm think I'm going to take the bench out to the range and see what 100yrd groups I can get off the PC 15-22. I'll be using a scope since I never was any good with iron sights past 50.

As far as ammo all I have is CCI AR Tactical, Fed Automatch, and Golden Turds so not sure what it's going to do. It'll be interesting to find out. I'll also compare it to my Savage MKII (which I know will get at minimum 3" groups at 100yrds on bulk ammo) and a standard 15-22.
 
I'm think I'm going to take the bench out to the range and see what 100yrd groups I can get off the PC 15-22. I'll be using a scope since I never was any good with iron sights past 50.

As far as ammo all I have is CCI AR Tactical, Fed Automatch, and Golden Turds so not sure what it's going to do. It'll be interesting to find out. I'll also compare it to my Savage MKII (which I know will get at minimum 3" groups at 100yrds on bulk ammo) and a standard 15-22.

Looking forward to seeing your results.
 
I went to the range today specifically to shoot at a target placed at a 100 yds with my 15-22. I first made sure my scope was zeroed in at 50 yards (it's a cheapo 3-9x40) since it can be slightly off every time I use it. Once I made a few minor adjustments and put a few 25-round mags down range to get comfortable I then set up two targets at a 100 yards.

The first 100 yd target was used to dial in the scope, but once I was comfortable that I was "on target" I switched to the second target and tried to get the tightest grouping possible.

I was using Federal Automatch ammo for the entire shoot. It was mid-60s, sunny, with only a light headwind.

Here's how I did:

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With the exception of a few flyers, the grouping is about 8" in diameter. While it wasn't my best shooting it's not too bad either.
 
I went to the range today specifically to shoot at a target placed at a 100 yds with my 15-22. I first made sure my scope was zeroed in at 50 yards (it's a cheapo 3-9x40) since it can be slightly off every time I use it. Once I made a few minor adjustments and put a few 25-round mags down range to get comfortable I then set up two targets at a 100 yards.

The first 100 yd target was used to dial in the scope, but once I was comfortable that I was "on target" I switched to the second target and tried to get the tightest grouping possible.

I was using Federal Automatch ammo for the entire shoot. It was mid-60s, sunny, with only a light headwind.

Here's how I did:

target_zps9c9e992f.jpg


With the exception of a few flyers, the grouping is about 8" in diameter. While it wasn't my best shooting it's not too bad either.

A far cry from Maddmax.
 
I went to the range today specifically to shoot at a target placed at a 100 yds with my 15-22. I first made sure my scope was zeroed in at 50 yards (it's a cheapo 3-9x40) since it can be slightly off every time I use it. Once I made a few minor adjustments and put a few 25-round mags down range to get comfortable I then set up two targets at a 100 yards.

The first 100 yd target was used to dial in the scope, but once I was comfortable that I was "on target" I switched to the second target and tried to get the tightest grouping possible.

I was using Federal Automatch ammo for the entire shoot. It was mid-60s, sunny, with only a light headwind.

Here's how I did:

target_zps9c9e992f.jpg


With the exception of a few flyers, the grouping is about 8" in diameter. While it wasn't my best shooting it's not too bad either.

Id say thats pretty much on par for a 15-22
 
You guys are getting your chain jerked buy some folks claiming their 15-22 can shoot nickle or even quarter size groups.
If this was true, it would make the 15-22 the most accurate rifle Smith makes without it going thru the match dept.
I am a member of a club that holds monthly competitions for rimfire rifles.
Its held indoors, so there is no wind to effect the bullet.
The top shooters have spent at least $5k on their custom made 22 rim single shot rifles.
Their target is the size of a dime @ 50 yards. The closest to the . in the center is the winner.
Most will hit the dime size target all the time.
The problem with 22 rim fire ammo and accuracy is the small case size.
Just a few specs of powder will make a difference in your vertical hit height. Believe me, these guys spend lots on just a 50 round box, with matching lot#'s to get that sort of accuracy.
A lot of these guys compete internationally , To think the 15-22 is even close to these sort of groups is laughable.
The 15-22 is fun gun to shoot up close with lots of stuff to buy for it.
But thats about it.
 
Using a Standard 15/22 with the supplied sights ~ 5 inch 25 round group @ 100 yards.
I can hit a clay @ 100 yards pretty much all the time. It takes some time to set up the sights, and ammo plays a part.
But once on sight it seems to stay on.
This is shooting on sand bags.
Guy22
 
Guy22, that seems about right with your set up.Obviously you have young eyes and know what you are doing.
I can imagine a good scope mounted correctly would tighten up the shot pattern a good amount, maybe in the 3 moa . But that would really depend on your ammo selection or availability.
 
My father always said its the not the tools its the carpenter, just saying. Knowing your rifle, and patience will give you good groupings. Going out there and Ramboing it expecting your rifle to be a lazer beam as you pour out rounds and get a dime to a quarter is just ludicrous. I'm not the best shot nor claim to be, but have seen very good groupings from this rifle as well as any other fire arm in particular. Just take the time to know your rifle, like your getting to know a good gal, or guy (if thats your thing no judgement), and you will notice results..
 
Guys, I own 3 of these guns. I bought the first one in feb/march after they came out. I gave it to my son. The second one, I bought in Feb of 2012, the last one I bought in Feb of 2013. Each one has a Nikon scope on it. The first two have the Nikon 3x9 Rimfire scope. The last one has the Nikon P22 scope on it. We shoot federal Bulk hollow point ammo through all of them. They all shoot different size groups! Far and away the most accurate of the bunch is the first one. I am not going to tell you how good it shoots. You won't believe me or you will ask me to post a video or a target. And if I did you guys would find some reason as to why it shot like that. I honestly feel that the early versions shoot better than the later models. I think the reason is that the tooling is fresh. Ask yourself this question: Why did S&W offer a performance center model? Do you suppose that maybe the early version had barrels that were made using the same machine that supplies the performance center version? Do you think that maybe S&W bought some other machinery to make the barrels so they could keep up production due to the popularity of the rifle? I bet they did. I will also say this to the younger guy. I am 50. Guys my age and older grew up shooting game with iron sights. Some of these guys will tell you that when they went hunting and only had 5 shells to do it. It was expected that they return with 5 rabbits or squirrels or whatever. If they missed, they were held accountable, in case you are wondering that usually meant a belt to the bottom. That is how it was back then. Now you take some one that has grown up that way, most everyone back then went into the military, and put them in the military and ask them to shoot with iron sights. Guess what happens next? They usually shoot marksman. Put that same person in Vietnam with the new M-16 and guess what. He learns very quickly how to shoot accurately because his life is on the line. He takes it seriously because he has to. Now you take this same person after he leaves the service and put him into a shooting situation. Well I would expect that he knows what he is doing by now wouldn't you think. I am sorry for the rant and very long post but I thought that maybe some people out there did not consider these possibilities. If I offended anyone then I am sorry, but I wrote what I believe. You can like my post or not. I am done. Thank you.
 
I'm glad I'm wearing boots because some of the BS in this thread is pretty deep.
 
Guys, I own 3 of these guns. I bought the first one in feb/march after they came out. I gave it to my son. The second one, I bought in Feb of 2012, the last one I bought in Feb of 2013. Each one has a Nikon scope on it. The first two have the Nikon 3x9 Rimfire scope. The last one has the Nikon P22 scope on it. We shoot federal Bulk hollow point ammo through all of them. They all shoot different size groups! Far and away the most accurate of the bunch is the first one. I am not going to tell you how good it shoots. You won't believe me or you will ask me to post a video or a target. And if I did you guys would find some reason as to why it shot like that. I honestly feel that the early versions shoot better than the later models. I think the reason is that the tooling is fresh. Ask yourself this question: Why did S&W offer a performance center model? Do you suppose that maybe the early version had barrels that were made using the same machine that supplies the performance center version? Do you think that maybe S&W bought some other machinery to make the barrels so they could keep up production due to the popularity of the rifle? I bet they did. I will also say this to the younger guy. I am 50. Guys my age and older grew up shooting game with iron sights. Some of these guys will tell you that when they went hunting and only had 5 shells to do it. It was expected that they return with 5 rabbits or squirrels or whatever. If they missed, they were held accountable, in case you are wondering that usually meant a belt to the bottom. That is how it was back then. Now you take some one that has grown up that way, most everyone back then went into the military, and put them in the military and ask them to shoot with iron sights. Guess what happens next? They usually shoot marksman. Put that same person in Vietnam with the new M-16 and guess what. He learns very quickly how to shoot accurately because his life is on the line. He takes it seriously because he has to. Now you take this same person after he leaves the service and put him into a shooting situation. Well I would expect that he knows what he is doing by now wouldn't you think. I am sorry for the rant and very long post but I thought that maybe some people out there did not consider these possibilities. If I offended anyone then I am sorry, but I wrote what I believe. You can like my post or not. I am done. Thank you.

How about a new paragraph ever so often. :)
 
Well I havent had Coffee in 6 days... Just Grabbed a cup and read up on This thread...


I agree with almost everyone on this Thread... Like Don and his 3 different Guns all shooting Different... to Max and His Quarter group at 100yds...

It's kinda Funny... A buddy of mine goes shooting with me a few Times... You give him a Pistol.. and cant hardly Hit the Target 5 feet away.. He Grabbed my S&W Sport.. and in his 1st 10 shots Tagged the Bullsey.. I didnt that dayt..... Next time out we had a Gong at 200yds.... I was struggling to hit it, pretty windy, he hit it 8of12 shots... and i consider myself a good shot, well guess he is better and has only been shooting for a coupl Months... Now , like Me, he is addicted, now has 4 guns...LOL... and yes, His 1st gin was a S&W 15-22 and he is a Great shot with just a Cheap Red Dot...


My point is.. Every person, Every Gun, every Bullet, Every environmental condition is DIFFERENT for every person and every time shooting...

Could i shoot a quarter size group at 100yds with my 15-22... i think so, with optics better than my Reflex Site, but all the stars would have to line up...:D... i know at 50yds I can pretty much cut the bulls-eye out of the target, again, but not every day...:cool:

There are people who always BEND the Truth on this Forum... we know those guys... there are people who always, and i mean Always help people and steer people in the right direction... we know those people... and there are people like ME:p.. who just come on and enjoy the People , the Info, and try and have fun...

Keep it lite and enjoyable guys, as most of you have and do.. The last thing we wanna do is run people off who do help all of us out... Sometime our intentions are not always reflected in our typed words..... ya need ta use more emo's like Me:D:o:);):eek::cool::p:rolleyes::D....

And when i setup my video camera shooting wings of Horsefly's at 300yds with my .357... ill be sure and Post it here 1st:eek:

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Stav...
 
My father always said its the not the tools its the carpenter, just saying..

But if your plane is blunt then it doesn't matter how good of a carpenter you are.

Tools are important. Anyone who says they aren't is lying.

Most modern firearms will be more accurate than what most people are capable of exploiting.

I can shoot my 15-22 to group about 1.5" @25m. The kid I let shoot it was putting them in to about .5". I haven't stretched it's legs yet, real life keeps getting in the way. My 15-22 can shoot much better than I can.

I honestly doubt the dime/nickle sized groups at 100m. Those are barely achievable with some of the best target rifles on the planet. At .7 MOA you're getting close to bench-rest accuracy.

I don't care how good of a shooter you are, the 15-22 can't do that.

KBK
 
Even if the 15-22 can, my "old" eyes don't work as well as they used to.

The range I go to only goes to about 30 yards, so that's where I currently practice. I need to find an outdoor range near Oklahoma City.

I'd also love to attend an Appleseed event. From what little I know about them, they seem similar to a Marine Corps rifle qualification. I miss those.
 
But if your plane is blunt then it doesn't matter how good of a carpenter you are.

Tools are important. Anyone who says they aren't is lying.

Most modern firearms will be more accurate than what most people are capable of exploiting.

I can shoot my 15-22 to group about 1.5" @25m. The kid I let shoot it was putting them in to about .5". I haven't stretched it's legs yet, real life keeps getting in the way. My 15-22 can shoot much better than I can.

I honestly doubt the dime/nickle sized groups at 100m. Those are barely achievable with some of the best target rifles on the planet. At .7 MOA you're getting close to bench-rest accuracy.

I don't care how good of a shooter you are, the 15-22 can't do that.

KBK


I believe we are Talking bench rest accuracy Kayback;)

Again... thats your opinion:D and I have Mine.... and if Max says he has done it... I fully believe he has...

I know i cant do that well... but i bet my 15-22 can...


Again.. thats My Opinion

:D
 

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