So here is my thing...and I am really confused about this. I owned a a HiPoint for a while, but gun forums were encouraging me to save some money and get something reliable, so I did. I saved up some money and got a S&W SD9 VE. Now I am hearing a few antagonists spouting they are not that great...Well...is it a good gun or not? If I've gone from **** to **** then maybe I'll sell it and go get me [2] HiPpoints...
Cant please everybody...
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you should focus on pleasing yourself. last time I looked only your opinion mattered. maybe you should ask them what to have for dinner or what clothes you should wear tomorrow. just sayin.
out of the box hipoints suck but you can make them reliable,I own two btw.I bought a sw9ve used and never had one problem with it,the sd9ve is a really good gun with a very attractive price.some folks think that glock is the standard and anything below that is a piece of ****.you have a great gun,id keep it if i were you.hickok45 reviewed the sd9ve and gave it good marks,i don't think he'll review junk guns.
Why do you care about what anyone else thinks about what you buy. It is your money and what you think about it matters the most anyway.
blackbird94
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we have 2 hi points in the family. neither has as any problems at all. they go bang every time. my SD40VE has had 3 failure to feed in 400 rounds. 0 for the hi points. as far as recoil, I prefer the straight back push of the hi point 45 to the snap/flip of my s&w 40. I'll keep mine and learn to shoot it well but the hi points shoot better out of the box
Ape Hanger
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Run it till it either proves itself reliable or that it's a giant ****. Only you can determine if it will work for you or not.
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I had the original SD9 and it was extremely accurate and reliable. I've heard that the SDVE is the same under the hood so I think you have a great budget gun. Don't listen to people who equate price with quality. If you like the gun, and I'm betting you do, then that is what is important.
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Has the gun been reliable and accurate? If so, case closed. If not get rid of it.
Arik
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Generally yes both suck. However what do you want to do with it? You want to do 2 boxes of ammo a year? Bith are great!. You want to carry? The HiPoint sucks. You want a gun that's capable of going high round count without problems or minor parts changes? Both suck.
Now, every individual gun will be different like anything else. However the better made guns would be
HKs
Walther PPQ/P99
S&W M&P/P99/3rd gen
Glocks
Older Sigs
"Save up more" is a vague term. How much is more? If the HiPoint is $200 than saving up another $400 and getting a great used HK or $200 and a used Glock shouldnt be a problem.
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Now, every individual gun will be different like anything else. However the better made guns would be
HKs
Walther PPQ/P99
S&W M&P/P99/3rd gen
Glocks
Older Sigs
"Save up more" is a vague term. How much is more? If the HiPoint is $200 than saving up another $400 and getting a great used HK or $200 and a used Glock shouldnt be a problem.
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HiPoint sucks and that's a given, but how do you figure the SD9 does? What are you,basing it on? How is a Glock superior for carry when they're almost the same exact size? Are you looking at the price of the SD9 and making a judgement?
Not only is the SD9 a decent gun, but it has a lifetime warranty. Sure, there are better guns out there but to tell so even that their gun sucks because it isn't what you prefer shows ignorance.
Arik
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I m not so much concerned with lifetime warranties as I am with lifetime function. Anyone can lifetime warranty a ****....just look at Taurus.
The SD9 is a good starting point I think but why buy that when you can add a little more and buy an industry proven gun. No one has to go Glock. Get M&P or a HK.
People have to look around. I have 3 Glocks and never paid more than $350. My most expansive HK cost me $599 with 7 mags. Just bought a NIB 1989 Sig P226 for $500. Deals ars out there, even today. The Sig and HK were bought 2 weeks ago and last month. Unless you have to absolutely have one now wait till you find a deal.....like the S&W 4046 that was for sale on this board for under $300
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It's been said before but buy what you want. I wanted the SD9VE so I went and bought one. Over 3000 rounds fired and no issues. In my opinion it does the job it's supposed to. And that's just it, opinions.
There are three things you have to realize about the internet. First is that most of the people who post opinions on it are ordinary humans, and thus their opinions are just that: opinions. Second, most people who take the time to post have something to complain about; it's far more common for someone to complain than to compliment. Third, which really isn't an internet issue, is that there is no product or maker in business that doesn't put out a lemon or have a problem. Some products are better in general than others, but even the "best" (and how do you define that?) can be problematic. Three of the most expensive pistols I have ever bought, Kimbers, were the absolute worst guns I've ever owned.
I said three, but there is a 4th: there are people who look at a price tag to determine if something is worth having. Many of the gun snobs sneer at a gun that doesn't cost $1K or more, without ever having tried one for themselves. There is also a matter of function, which isn't really a "snob" issue: if you compete professionally, then it makes sense to spend several thousand dollars on a pistol for that purpose, whereas if you are only an occasional shooter who also needs a gun for home defense, it doesn't. Even that, though, is an individual decision...if you have the money and just want one, then a full custom, engraved, and very expensive pistol is what you should have. It may not work any better than a standard production model, but it's your money and your gun.
I've owned many guns in my life, by many makers. I've never owned a semi-custom or custom handgun, they have all been production guns. Some of the "better" guns by most accounts were not as good as some of the "lesser" guns, IMO. For example, Colt is widely regarded as the gold standard for production 1911s...but in my experience, there are better 1911s available at a lower price.
By all means, read all you can and collect all the information you can about a gun you consider buying...but bear in mind that even with all that research, your individual gun may be the same, better, or worse than the average. The best thing you can do is buy a gun from a maker who has a very good reputation for quality and service, and whose models have good availability of aftermarket accessories (such as magazines and holsters.) Then shoot it and enjoy it...and, if it's not what you want or like after all, sell it or trade it. It's not a lifetime commitment, like taking a wife...
I said three, but there is a 4th: there are people who look at a price tag to determine if something is worth having. Many of the gun snobs sneer at a gun that doesn't cost $1K or more, without ever having tried one for themselves. There is also a matter of function, which isn't really a "snob" issue: if you compete professionally, then it makes sense to spend several thousand dollars on a pistol for that purpose, whereas if you are only an occasional shooter who also needs a gun for home defense, it doesn't. Even that, though, is an individual decision...if you have the money and just want one, then a full custom, engraved, and very expensive pistol is what you should have. It may not work any better than a standard production model, but it's your money and your gun.
I've owned many guns in my life, by many makers. I've never owned a semi-custom or custom handgun, they have all been production guns. Some of the "better" guns by most accounts were not as good as some of the "lesser" guns, IMO. For example, Colt is widely regarded as the gold standard for production 1911s...but in my experience, there are better 1911s available at a lower price.
By all means, read all you can and collect all the information you can about a gun you consider buying...but bear in mind that even with all that research, your individual gun may be the same, better, or worse than the average. The best thing you can do is buy a gun from a maker who has a very good reputation for quality and service, and whose models have good availability of aftermarket accessories (such as magazines and holsters.) Then shoot it and enjoy it...and, if it's not what you want or like after all, sell it or trade it. It's not a lifetime commitment, like taking a wife...
sac-gunslinger
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What GKC said is dead on the money.
Buy what seems to fit you the best (best price, best fit, best caliber, whatever) and enjoy it.
You will always find somebody who will be critical, people love to pick on each other. Go your own way. You will be happier. And you will have the satisfaction of completely baffling the critics. "They" will not be able to understand how you can be happy when you haven't listened to them.
Buy what seems to fit you the best (best price, best fit, best caliber, whatever) and enjoy it.
You will always find somebody who will be critical, people love to pick on each other. Go your own way. You will be happier. And you will have the satisfaction of completely baffling the critics. "They" will not be able to understand how you can be happy when you haven't listened to them.
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Anyone telling you that the SD9VE or SD40VE sucks has some sort of agenda and I wouldn't listen to anything else they have to say. It's a great pistol, from a great company at a truly amazing price. You did well, trust in yourself and your choice. I own guns costing twice as much and I'm carrying an SD9VE right now.
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Usually those that are ragging on guns like that are just trying to feel better about the $1300 they spent on a Kimber or some such.
raymo2u
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Im at the 8200 counted rounds on my SD9VE and i own 2 others. None have problems and they are great pistols. They are accurate, reliable, budget-friendly and look great and dont wiegh a ton, so how do they suck? I carry my SD9VE and not my $1300 Kimber that everyone else thinks is god, do you know why? Becuase out of almost 2000 rounds running almost dry it went bang all but 35-40 rounds at the end, that was when it was dry/dirty/lots of rounds continously. I CONSIDER IT A SPECIAL WEAPON and Im sorry people dont like things that work, i do
The kimber is a safe queen and is for showing off, but it jams alot and is ammo picky
The kimber is a safe queen and is for showing off, but it jams alot and is ammo picky
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Try it
Put a few hundred rounds through it then decide.
Put a few hundred rounds through it then decide.
Nframecollector
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This is a S&W forum so don't expect to hear anything good about Hi-Points! I held one once........................I handed it back to the owner. Nuff' said!
raymo2u
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They are good throw away guns thats for sure!
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