Need Info. on Hornady LNL AP

[Twoboxer]

You don't give new reloaders enough credit. They most likely do have the ability to bend over and look without automatically pulling a handle!

And moving the arm any amount at all rotates the shell plate toward the next station. You cannot double charge on a true progressive like the LnL or XL650 unless you purposefully move the shell plate backwards. And on the 650 anyway, in order to activate the powder drop the pawl has reached a point of no return and you cannot move the plate backwards even if you were crazy enough to try.

If your LnL doesn't work in a similar manner, I may be wrong but I think that it is supposed to and it may be defective.

As said once already, unfortunately you are wrong once for certain, and twice in my opinion.

The Hornady powder measure will reset itself without pulling the ram down far enough to cycle the shellplate, and pushing the ram back up will dispense another charge. The Lee Classic Turret will absolutely do the same.

Just a flat out fact. And I doubt the Hornady is the only one that can produce similar results, primarily because the brass must be completely removed from the powder die before the shellplate can be moved at all.

And I believe you've demonstrated that not only a new reloader, but also an experienced one who thinks he knows how the press operates can make this mistake.

Of course it should be caught by the powder check die, if one is installed. But I gave this as just one example of the kind of mistake one can make while debugging without necessarily realizing it.

 

[blujax01]

You CAN double charge a case with the LnL. I do it intentionally every time I start reloading in order to test the Lock-out die. I test it with a double charge, a no charge, and a normal charge that I weigh.
True, that is not a normal situation, but for mess ups we are not looking at a normal situation. I have found that for my peace of mind I too remove everything and start again.
I have found that for normal interruptions (wife, etc.) my last procedure is to push the handle all the way to the bottom (ram all the way up) and leave it there. Nothing can go wrong while it is in that position and you don't have to remember anything. When you start again, lower the ram and you are back in your normal sequence.
When I first got mine I would repeat--primer, case, powder, bullet, load to make sure I covered everything each time. I still do that. After all, I have been a dull, routine accountant for 50+ years.

I do apologize to the conversation. I did not know this fact and should do research before I open my mouth, eh?

 

[blujax01]

As said once already, unfortunately you are wrong once for certain, and twice in my opinion.

The Hornady powder measure will reset itself without pulling the ram down far enough to cycle the shellplate, and pushing the ram back up will dispense another charge. The Lee Classic Turret will absolutely do the same.

Just a flat out fact. And I doubt the Hornady is the only one that can produce similar results, primarily because the brass must be completely removed from the powder die before the shellplate can be moved at all.

And I believe you've demonstrated that not only a new reloader, but also an experienced one who thinks he knows how the press operates can make this mistake.

Of course it should be caught by the powder check die, if one is installed. But I gave this as just one example of the kind of mistake one can make while debugging without necessarily realizing it.

Copy that, Twoboxer. I was wrong.

 

[Twoboxer]

Copy that, Twoboxer. I was wrong.

No worries, mate. Just ask my wife how often that happens to me

 

[brucev]

Well boys... it's done. Courtesy of my wife aka "Wonder Woman" the LNL AP was ordered along with all the other stuff needed. Now the waiting begins! http://smith-wessonforum.com/reloading/345723-my-wife-wonder-woman.html#post137553719

 

[Twoboxer]

Grats, man! Couple of thoughts to pass along for when it arrives . . .

- Please remember that none of these presses are perfect, they all have weak spots and many have their own little "issues".

- DO clean the press parts including the powder measure inside and out. I followed Hornady's obviously biased advice to use One-Shot spray cleaner . . . but in any case it worked great.

- Pay particular attention to understanding how the priming system works, comes apart, reassembles. Clean and polish it thoroughly and keep it clean.

Good luck, stay safe, have fun!

 

[dickttx]

Oddly, the biggest problem I have had with mine is with the grease. When the temp drops a little in my garage the grease on the ram gets VERY stiff. I keep wiping it off and hopefully it will one day be gone. Then I will use something lighter on the ram.

And thanks blujax1. That is already twice I have been right this year.

 

[TheTinMan]

+2 on dumping all powder when there's a stoppage of any kind. A couple of weeks ago I caught a double charge with my MK 54 eyeballs just before seating a bullet. R BS powder check did not do its job despite my testing during setup. W231 in .45 Auto Rim case just isn't much vertical column.

I had problems with the primer seating plug being proud of the press body. Hang ups with primer shuttle. Tiny touch with file fixed it.

Hornady tech support is GREAT.

 

[Moonman]

brucev,

Google

"Hornady LNL-AP Hints and Tricks"

Great video series by Bill Morgan, actually has 5 or 6 Videos in the series.

Shell Plate fixes, Primer System explanations (new presses have better

primer parts and a new breakaway wire system.)

He explains the Powder measure system.

He has a very easy going demeanor and is easy to watch.

Spend the time to watch his complete series and SAVE YOURSELF SOME HEADACHES.

THE SERIES IS WELL WORTH YOUR TIME.