Best Suppressor?

[kingfhb]

So I have my trust setup and paperwork completed... what suppressor should I get for the 15-22? Gemtech? SPEC?

Not too crazy expensive... I already looked at the Gemtech outback II and it runs about $325 which is a good price range for me.

Thoughts on specific suppressors? Experiences with them?

Thanks!

 

[xxspudxx]

SWR Spectre II.

No first round pop.
Easy cleaning.
Light weight.
Quieter than a Sparrow.

 

[WilliamG]

Nice-looking suppressor. I'm new to the suppressor world. Can you just unscrew that one from the 15-22, and put it on the M&P .22 pistol?

 

[sithlord]

Nice-looking suppressor. I'm new to the suppressor world. Can you just unscrew that one from the 15-22, and put it on the M&P .22 pistol?

Depends on the threads on your M&P .22. From the SWR Spectre site:

Some common .22 pistols require a simple and inexpensive thread adapter to provide the required 1/2×28 threads.

Based on this, you will need a thread adaptor.

Also, IIRC, there are different thread lengths, and so you may need a spacer to ensure that it locks on properly. However, the concept is that yes, you can move a 22lr suppressor to another (or most) 22lr that have 1/2x28 threads.

As for other 22lr suppressors, the 22 Sparrow is well received as well. Mines currently in NFA jail and has another 6-9 before it is out on parole. I'll have my 762 can and 300 BO SBR by then (both were eFiled)..

Recommendation (since you said you were new to suppressors, I also assume new to NFA items), get a trust and eFile the suppressor. Otherwise you could be waiting up to a year before your ears thank you, assuming you live in a friendly state and county.

 

[BE Mike]

I would want something easy to disassemble and clean.

 

[RedNeck Jim]

I have a 22Sparrow & couldn't be happier. Stainless internals & very easy to clean. I really was sold on their design. With the monocore internal encased by 2 half shells, that allows you to easily break apart the suppressor... even if extremely dirty. This is enclosed in an outer tube that has the serial number. This is important in that if there is ever an upgrade, like when they went to stainless, you can ship back all the internals with no paperwork. This is also true if you ever need repair.

I would be wary of any claims of how quiet any suppressor is. These differences are very minor & I have never heard of any shooter being able to tell the difference... only machines. All I know is, mine is very quiet & allows me to shoot without hearing protection. When shooting the 15-22, the main thing you hear is the noise associated with the action cycling. I had never heard that before during shooting. When put on my bolt CZ 455, it is scary quiet.

Point is, I would not let any sound test be the overriding feature when selecting. The difference of a few decibels is not discernible by the human ear. I would be more worried about other features.

And yes, you simply unscrew to remove. I share my Sparrow between the 15-22, the CZ 455 & 2 Buck Mark pistols. Keep in mind, a rifle (normal barrel length) needs subsonic ammo so that you don't have the sonic crack. That crack is surprisingly loud & only way to hear it is to shoot high velocity ammo thru a can. The short barrel on a pistol allows you to shoot any ammo, as even high velocity ammo can't break the speed of sound.

As far as cleaning, I simply put the 3 internal parts in a glass jar with equal parts vinegar & hydrogen peroxide... the dip. I take it out after 24 hours & when wiped down, looks brand new. That chemical is now toxic, so study up on handling precautions & proper disposal. No matter how you clean one, the residue is hazardous, so handle & clean up accordingly.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Some rambling opinion about rimfire cans....

There is endless debate about what can is quieter than another. It's all BS. They are all quiet enough and often difficult to discern any difference even shooting side by side.

FRP is a consideration if you are critter hunting or around the house and want to make sure the wife don't know what you're up to. Otherwise, for recreational shooting FRP doesn't matter. FRP is still significantly quieter than unsuppressed. It's not like you need hearing protection. In any event, you can always wet the can to eliminate FRP.

User serviceable is among the top considerations. Some cans are easy to take apart and others are a pain to get apart even after just a few hundred rounds.

Some cans are rated for other calibers like 17hmr and 5.7x28.

Weight is something to consider. Light cans are nice but aluminum baffles erode and ultimately will need replacing. Stainless steel is heavy but lasts and can be cleaned with the dip. Titanium is light and will last and is expensive.

DO NOT HAVE A BUDGET. Don't let price influence your purchase. Buy the can you want, period, regardless of price. A rimfire can will be yours for life. The tax stamp cost and wait is not worth it to buy a can on the cheap that isn't what you really want.

Check out SilencerShop on the Net. Good luck finding the "best" can.

 

[batman4706]

suggest you go to The Silencer Shop website. They have lot's of videos of the various cans for you to watch. Their website is very helpful & full of information, as is their staff. They won't over sell you either.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

I don't own a suppressor but I was intrigued by the write up in the March 2014 Guns & Ammo about the SF Ryder 22-A Suppressor by Surefire. It's 5.4 inches long, 3.1 ounces and it sounds like it was designed to be easy to take apart and clean. Also, the point of impact was negligible when the can was on or off the gun they tested it with. I think it is just going to start hitting stores in the next few months. The street price may be a tad higher than your current budget but not too much.

 

[RedNeck Jim]

I don't own a suppressor but I was intrigued by the write up in the March 2014 Guns & Ammo about the SF Ryder 22-A Suppressor by Surefire. It's 5.4 inches long, 3.1 ounces and it sounds like it was designed to be easy to take apart and clean.

I know little of this item but in doing a little reading, it comes with a tool to take apart the baffles & then put back together. That does not sound easy to me. No tools needed for the Sparrow. Also they talk about it being light & from what little I could find on it, looks like most of it is aluminum. As Phil stated, aluminum can't be dipped, so I personally would not want it.

Looks like they brought out this can a couple of years ago & had issues with it.

From my experience, you really need to be careful in choosing your features you want. Lightweight sounds good but how does that impact cleaning, serviceability & life of the can. 22lr ammo is dirty & when we say a suppressor has to be cleaned after every 500 rounds or so... we mean it. That carbon buildup is hard & very difficult to get off. I tried the tumbler method with stainless media but after a day of tumbling, not all was removed. Because mine is stainless, it can go in the dip (aluminum can't) and comes out spotless.

You want a can that will last your whole life. I can't stress enough 3 points... ease of cleaning, ease of service and long life of components. To me, one being a few decibels quieter means nothing as does the can being lighter... at the expense of my 3 points.

 

[roadkill45]

ah, my favorite subject....!! Ensure it is a take down so you can clean it yourself. i have one AAC pilot that is sealed and i need to have it jail broken cause it is getting heavy.
i have 5 .22 cans. if you are on a budget, which we all want to save money, i got my last .22 can....Hunterstown Guardian, take down, $199!!!!! and it is as quiet as my Sparrow.

i shoot them in the garage w/o problems with noise. only hear the bolt working. that is with sub sonics.

the thread above is 100% correct. i have AL baffles in most so i don't use the dip, but i do use a rock tumbler with stainless steel media and i have a blast cabinet, and i clean even before 500 rounds.

a small amount of bearing grease coating your baffles makes them easier to clean also. but then again i don't do full mag dumps anymore so my shots are selective and don't put as many down range.

follow my and the thread above this ones advice and you won't go wrong, but give that Hunterstown Guardian a look. you can get it in SS, AL or Ti. they are the most inexpensive on the market now.

 

[RV4driver]

I went a different way on mine. I got some YHM QD adapters for my 5.56 ARs and one for my 15-22. My titanium can for the 5.56 can now be quickly moved from the 15-22 to the 5.56 guns. It's a bit of overkill for the 15-22, but one can is cheaper than two. Well, this Ti can isn't cheaper than two cheap .22 cans, but it's way cheaper than a 5.56 can and another for the .22s.
The .22 specific one I bought for my wife's .22 pistols (yeah, right...it's for her) will also go on all my threaded barrel pistols, but I'd have to take the YHM adapter off the 15.22 to use it. Also, although I've been waiting 10 months for it, I hear it'll be another 4 months before I get the stamp.
LGS says 15 months for paper applications, and about 5 months for eFile. Too late to eFile now...

 

[WilliamG]

Looks like the Spectre II is the best out there for .22. Easy cleaning, no first-round noise etc. Just got to get my paperwork done!

 

[WilliamG]

Depends on the threads on your M&P .22. From the SWR Spectre site:



Based on this, you will need a thread adaptor.

Also, IIRC, there are different thread lengths, and so you may need a spacer to ensure that it locks on properly. However, the concept is that yes, you can move a 22lr suppressor to another (or most) 22lr that have 1/2x28 threads.

As for other 22lr suppressors, the 22 Sparrow is well received as well. Mines currently in NFA jail and has another 6-9 before it is out on parole. I'll have my 762 can and 300 BO SBR by then (both were eFiled)..

Recommendation (since you said you were new to suppressors, I also assume new to NFA items), get a trust and eFile the suppressor. Otherwise you could be waiting up to a year before your ears thank you, assuming you live in a friendly state and county.

Thank you.

Going to get the Spectre II if nobody has negative comments about it with the M&P 15-22 and M&P .22.

 

[strobro32]

I have the SS Sparrow and the Spectre II. Both are top performers and easy to clean. The Sparrow is 1" shorter. There is no FRP on the Sparrow with a rifle. The Spectre has more back pressure. It will foul the action and mags faster.

 

[dannybot]

I'm don't really know, but this is my thought, and what I did: .22's are really quiet, so get something available and reasonably priced. If you have a local dealer with one in stock, you can knock a month off your wait time.

If you use subsonic ammo, all you'll hear is the action cycling. If you use in on a pistol, it doesn't really matter what ammo you use, but you'll need a serviceable can because it'll be really messy.

 

[WilliamG]

I have the SS Sparrow and the Spectre II. Both are top performers and easy to clean. The Sparrow is 1" shorter. There is no FRP on the Sparrow with a rifle. The Spectre has more back pressure. It will foul the action and mags faster.

Thanks. Still leaning toward the Spectre II. No FRP is the best reason.

 

[RedNeck Jim]

No FRP is the best reason.

Curious why you say that? Have you shot suppressed before & been bothered by it? Have you ever heard it? On my rifles, I don't have it with my Sparrow but even if I did, I can't imagine such a thing to be a deciding factor... unless of course I was hunting. But even then, like stated above, just spray some water mist in & you will never have it.

I remind folks, FRP is not like taking your suppressor off. It simply means sometimes that first round is a little louder... but not a whole lot. At least that is my experience. Since I'm just shooting targets & shoot hundreds of rounds each time, such an issue would not be major at all.

I could care less which product you purchase but I think it important for those not familiar with shooting suppressed, to be able to separate marketing hype from what is actually important.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I like the YouTube vids of guys showing off thier new rimfire suppressor at a public range. Everyone else is shooting unsuppressed centerfire while the newbie with his can has ear muffs strapped on his skull and taking a vid of his suppressed Sig Mosquito to show how quiet it is. Hey mom, look! No FRP.

 

[WilliamG]

Curious why you say that? Have you shot suppressed before & been bothered by it? Have you ever heard it? On my rifles, I don't have it with my Sparrow but even if I did, I can't imagine such a thing to be a deciding factor... unless of course I was hunting. But even then, like stated above, just spray some water mist in & you will never have it.

I remind folks, FRP is not like taking your suppressor off. It simply means sometimes that first round is a little louder... but not a whole lot. At least that is my experience. Since I'm just shooting targets & shoot hundreds of rounds each time, such an issue would not be major at all.

I could care less which product you purchase but I think it important for those not familiar with shooting suppressed, to be able to separate marketing hype from what is actually important.

I've see YouTube videos to know that I don't like it at all. A suppressor should suppress the sound, 100% of the time. It's enough to immediately discount the Sparrow. For me, it's important. For others, if you're not bothered by a loud-er first shot (water spraying aside - why would I have water?), go for it.

From what I can tell, if both suppressors are about the same, why not get the one with no FRP? Seems to make the most sense to me..., but of course you own the Sparrow, so it would make sense you'd defend it.

Bottom line, if there's a suppressor that NEVER has an FRP, and a suppressor that certainly does, I'll go for the one without. Why wouldn't I?