Anyone like Stag and Jigged bone?

Hondo.... thanks for conducting a class is "stag" grips for us......

digi....... I'm answering the final...... jigged bone...for $200


Looks like I flunked the final........

Thanks again Hondo!
 
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These are a little worn but fit great on this K-22 Outdoorsman.... shipped to Shapleigh Hardware Company on April 30, 1937.

I've always thought of them as "stag".... is this right?

Hi Linda,

Yes you are correct; they are the real McCoy genuine Stag and most likely the species is India Sambar Stag.
 

The right hand stock, on the left side of the pic, inside by where the front strap would be shows a speckled though flat stacked type of pattern. What are those?
Also both show an overall yellowish brown colour. Is this due to age?

I notice the left hand stock has some lighter areas. Is this due to wear/polishing by the hand coming into contact repeatedly when grasping?

Nice detailed pics. Thanks for sharing
 
The right hand stock, on the left side of the pic, inside by where the front strap would be shows a speckled though flat stacked type of pattern. What are those?
Also both show an overall yellowish brown colour. Is this due to age?

I notice the left hand stock has some lighter areas. Is this due to wear/polishing by the hand coming into contact repeatedly when grasping?

Nice detailed pics. Thanks for sharing

Stag grips are very tricky to make. One must start with a piece of antler only slightly larger in diameter than the finished grip circumference. If the section of antler has to be whittled down too much to fit the grip frame, the top 1/4" or so of solid bone is penetrated exposing the more porous inner area with the former blood capillaries. That is the 'speckled pattern' referred to. It is naturally dark, easily fills with dark colored polishing compound, and grime, turning blackish. The best polishing compounds are creamy white to match the natural stag color.

Making premium stag grips in the old days wasted much of the antler to avoid it. With current prices of real stag, much waste is unacceptable. Therefore current grips with exposed inner core are much more prevalent. It's even more difficult to avoid with elk antler which is inferior to stag.

The gold color comes from age, human hand oils and handling, a sort of patina that's not very deep. Some like it, as in aged ivory. But stag can be restored/re-polished to remove surface checking and reveal the original creamy white color as you observed on this pair of grips.
 
Hi Linda,

Yes you are correct; they are the real McCoy genuine Stag and most likely the species is India Sambar Stag.

Thanks, Jim!

I appreciate you describing the differences between the materials used. I was never really sure how to tell them apart. Mine almost has the "popcorn" effect, but more of a knarly look in some areas.

The color is definitely a warm golden color that looks good on older guns. I do like the whiter, lighter shades.

I've used a light coat of mineral oil to take off surface dust & dirt but nothing stronger.

I've got 2 other pair, I'll take some pics and post. One is a jigged bone that needs some recoloring and the other is a N frame stag.
 
Stag grips are very tricky to make. One must start with a piece of antler only slightly larger in diameter than the finished grip circumference. If the section of antler has to be whittled down too much to fit the grip frame, the top 1/4" or so of solid bone is penetrated exposing the more porous inner area with the former blood capillaries. That is the 'speckled pattern' referred to. It is naturally dark, easily fills with dark colored polishing compound, and grime, turning blackish. The best polishing compounds are creamy white to match the natural stag color.

Making premium stag grips in the old days wasted much of the antler to avoid it. With current prices of real stag, much waste is unacceptable. Therefore current grips with exposed inner core are much more prevalent. It's even more difficult to avoid with elk antler which is inferior to stag.

The gold color comes from age, human hand oils and handling, a sort of patina that's not very deep. Some like it, as in aged ivory. But stag can be restored/re-polished to remove surface checking and reveal the original creamy white color as you observed on this pair of grips.

Thanks for the detail/expertise Hondo & thanks to Linda for providing close-up pics of proper light/detail. I recognized the porous inner area with the former blood capillaries as mine has the same at the same location. The left hand stock having more, but it also has more material as fashioned in a palm-swell and drops off more abruptly towards the butt. Also, that gold colour jumped out at me. It is what I used to refer unto mine as a yellowed nicotine smoke stain. Albeit gold sounds more appealing. Only the area of the backstrap and a bit of the beveled butt have worn to the creamy off-white on mine. Though the front of the left hand stock is close.

Mine are smooth to the touch except for one lone spike bud, for lack of proper terminology, on the left side stock towards the top. Betwixt twain ridges rising up from a valley is a baby spike. I can only feel it w/fingertip and then only whilst in downward motion.

I took note yesterday, upon saving Linda's pics, of the format's titles and wondered if those would change since Hondo's evaluation.
 
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Very nice & thanks for offering pics that I've added to my collection. Beautiful revolver that's also as well dressed. I should be so fortunate as to curl my fingers around striking definition embracing stag nirvana. I'd be more than happy to help lighten up the right side stock.

Do you prefer that style over the magna w/"horns"? Are you a southpaw by chance? I note these as well show more handling on the left stock. Thanks again for sharing the excellent pictures.
 
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Wow, more pics to add. The grip cap is most unique complete w/oval monogram plate no less!. Tres tres chic. I tend to favour the like on fowling pieces.

In the first pic I note the amber colour that runs mainly from the S&W monogram to the butt in the center of the left stock. The last pic isn't centered though along w/grip cap screws suggests left palm-swell. Might that be the reason for not alternating the cap screws betwixt both sides of stocks in a diagonal pattern?

ETA: E-gads old boy, the left stock medallion is canted a wee bit CCW. Tout de suite remove the stocks and send them to me posthaste to save further shame & embarrassment!
I'll gladly compensate you accordingly for those ... factory seconds ...

ETA: I didn't figure I could pull those stocks out of your hands with a come-a-long.
 
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Do you prefer that style over the magna w/"horns"? Are you a southpaw by chance? I note these as well show more handling on the left stock. Thanks again for sharing the excellent pictures.

Nickster...

The stags are vintage grips that I put on for a photo-op. Maybe the previous owner was a leftie!
 
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...along w/grip cap screws suggests left palm-swell. Might that be the reason for not alternating the cap screws betwixt both sides of stocks in a diagonal pattern?

The cap screws are always on one grip side or the other so the grips can be removed from the gun w/o taking the screws in and out, and potentially wearing the threaded holes.
 
The cap screws are always on one grip side or the other so the grips can be removed from the gun w/o taking the screws in and out, and potentially wearing the threaded holes.

Are brass escutcheons mounted in the butt of the stock? Not to knock tradition, but I'm the curious sort.
 
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