I am looking for opinions. I have the stock iron sights which are not flip up sights. I know that I will be getting a dot sight though not sure when and what yet. Would it make sense to buy a set of Magpul flip up sights to use also? Negatives/positives? I like the idea of being able to flip the Magpul sights up and down when using or not using the dot sight. I also like the look of the Magpul sights. Would this make sense or not? Ideas, etc. welcome.
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Jeffro57
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It makes sense to me. I enjoy having the option.
Makes sense to me too! Just did the exact same thing on mine. Replaced the stock irons with the Magpul's. They are nice and also lighter than the irons. Just saw a post in the classified section a couple days ago for a set for sale. Check it out as they may still bs available.
I to have red dot & flip ups. But I could not see spending a hundred for MP for something to have just in case the dot stops working. I got an off brand set of flip ups for a little less than 1/4 of what the magpul cost. They work just fine , co wetness is good & stays.
Vinney47
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The magpul sights make sense in that they are a pretty good fit, being light weight polymer sights on a light weight polymer rifle. The only hang up might be the cost. If you are good with the price, there really isn't a good reason not to.
cyphertext
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I prefer the fixed sights over the Magpul. Actually took the Magpuls off my .22lr upper and swapped my son for his fixed sights.
I like being able to adjust elevation at the rear sight for known distance. For example, I sighted mine in at 25y with the rear drum set to Z (three clicks up from the bottom). Then when I move down to the 50 yard line, I turn the drum 3 clicks to the 5/3 setting and I am on target again. Then for 100 yards, I can turn the drum past the Z setting so that I can make hits at that range as well.
I also prefer the round peep ring of the fixed sight vs. the flat top of the Magpul. It shouldn't matter, but for some reason I struggle with the Magpul site picture.
I like being able to adjust elevation at the rear sight for known distance. For example, I sighted mine in at 25y with the rear drum set to Z (three clicks up from the bottom). Then when I move down to the 50 yard line, I turn the drum 3 clicks to the 5/3 setting and I am on target again. Then for 100 yards, I can turn the drum past the Z setting so that I can make hits at that range as well.
I also prefer the round peep ring of the fixed sight vs. the flat top of the Magpul. It shouldn't matter, but for some reason I struggle with the Magpul site picture.
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The MBUS2's have a round peep, small hole and large.
I like FAB Defense Backup Sights RBS & FBS - polymer, very low profile, ambidextrous, Made in Israel not China. Cost about $70 for front and back --- FAB Defense Backup Sights RBS & FBS | 7.62 Precision Custom Firearm Finishes
I love this on my 300 Blackout http://www.primaryarms.com/Command-Arms-Low-Profile-Flip-Up-Sights-CAA-FFS-p/caa-ffs-frs.htm
PS: DO not buy P.T.S. Magpul. PTS products are designed for Airsoft.
I love this on my 300 Blackout http://www.primaryarms.com/Command-Arms-Low-Profile-Flip-Up-Sights-CAA-FFS-p/caa-ffs-frs.htm
PS: DO not buy P.T.S. Magpul. PTS products are designed for Airsoft.
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cyphertext
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The hole is round, but the outer edge on top is not, it is flat. I don't know why, but that bugs me. I prefer the A2 type of sight, or a Matech.
Jessica, sight types are individual preference. No one will fault you for changing out sights. The only negative for most people is cost.
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sound wave
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I am currently running the Troy BUIS with the "M&P" logo on my 15-22. Looks pretty sweet. Even if you don't use them, they add a nice custom touch. Mine have a different style front sight though.
Here is an ad I found on ebay:Troy Industries Folding Battle Sights Used Smith Wesson Branded M P Tactical | eBay
Here is an ad I found on ebay:Troy Industries Folding Battle Sights Used Smith Wesson Branded M P Tactical | eBay
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I am leaning toward a Bushnell Trophy red dot but I'm not sure how this could work with my vision. I wear "coke bottle" glasses and my eyes work independently and not with each other. Could this dot be used with just one eye?
I am leaning toward a Bushnell Trophy red dot but I'm not sure how this could work with my vision. I wear "coke bottle" glasses and my eyes work independently and not with each other. Could this dot be used with just one eye?
cyphertext
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It could, but that is not the most efficient way to use the red dot.
Desert Five-0
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I have backup Irons on my work rifle because I NEED them if my optic fails. On my 15-22 I did not put any on because realistically if the batteries fail I will replace them. If I want to shoot irons I guess I could throw the stock sights back on.
Its a matter of preference really. If you really think you will use them go ahead. If they are only going to be on there to look cool you may want to consider spening your money else where.
Its a matter of preference really. If you really think you will use them go ahead. If they are only going to be on there to look cool you may want to consider spening your money else where.
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cyphertext
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Negatives compared to what? The Bushnell TR-25 is a good, budget red dot. As far as riser, depends on if you want absolute co-witness or lower 1/3rd. They also now sell a TRS-25 with a high mount base that provides it with the proper height for co-witnessing but I don't know if it is absolute or lower 1/3.
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sound wave
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On both of them, the light emitter kind of gets in the way with a lower 1/3 co-witness. I guess that is my biggest gripe with them compared to the Aimpoint T1/H1. Also, they have a green tint to the glass that the Aimpoints don't have. Not that big a deal for the price.
look on Youtube. both are decent red dots for the money. The Primary Arms dot is more versatile due to the model with the removable base.
Also, since the Primary Arms more closely resembles the Aimpoint, with a bit of modification, I was able to use the TangoDown cover which includes integrated lens caps. iO Cover for Aimpoint T-1 iO-001 | Tango Down
Otherwise, I have both and they seem comparable to each other as far as quality goes. Personally, on an AR platform, I would prefer the Primary Arms. Plus they have a good reputation for customer service.
As far as the riser height, it would depend if you want absolute or lower 1/3 co-witness.
look on Youtube. both are decent red dots for the money. The Primary Arms dot is more versatile due to the model with the removable base.
Also, since the Primary Arms more closely resembles the Aimpoint, with a bit of modification, I was able to use the TangoDown cover which includes integrated lens caps. iO Cover for Aimpoint T-1 iO-001 | Tango Down
Otherwise, I have both and they seem comparable to each other as far as quality goes. Personally, on an AR platform, I would prefer the Primary Arms. Plus they have a good reputation for customer service.
As far as the riser height, it would depend if you want absolute or lower 1/3 co-witness.
What is the difference between 1/3rd versus absolute co-witness? What would the riser height be for each?
cyphertext
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Difference between absolute and co-witness, plus how to establish what size riser you need was recently covered here.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p15-rifles/366995-help.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p15-rifles/366995-help.html
headcase650
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The newest versions of the PA micro moved the emitter to the 4 o'clock position to help with 1/3 co witness.
