M&P tool question?

[tat2dchad]

so the handy little tool you take out of the grip to switch your back straps.....

is there a trick that will help me take it out or have it become a little less snug? because i basically have to call the fire department and have them bring the jaws of life over to release mine. that little bas**rd is in there

 

[dullh]

They are extremely stiff out of the box. Take a set of non-marring pliers and turn in 90 degrees then pull and it will come out. After the first removal it will loosen up and subsequent removals can easily be done by hand.

 

[Bkreutz]

In the event you don't have "non marring pliers", you can also use the edge of a table (unless it has a rounded edge) with the magazine out, put the flat part of the tool against the table top, while pushing down on the pistol, turn it 90 degrees. Then, hook the edge of the tool that is sticking out the back against the same table edge and pull. They do get easier with use.

 

[AGoyette]

After you get it turned, try using the flat basepad of you mag to "pry" it out. That is a trick that my LGS showed me.

 

[tat2dchad]

i take it out daily and it still just wants to be in the *** of the gun! but ill keep trying...eventually i will win! or i will threaten it and tell it i may buy a Glock lol

 

[Lee in Quartzsite]

Sometimes helps to remove the magazine and put a drop of oil on the nub of the tool. If you use a flashlight you can look in the mag well and see it when it's locked in place.

Be careful that you only turn it 1/4 turn...doesn't take much to ding it up. I messed mine up and had to call CS...they sent me a new one freeeeeeeeeeee!

 

[ca survivor]

I feel better now, I though mine was glued.

 

[AGoyette]

Taking the tool out does get easier as it wears. At least that is what I have heard.

 

[CB3]

Mine was ridiculously hard to remove even after multiple times. I took a file and gradually cut down the locking nubs until it rotated easily and came out easily. No need for it to be so securely held in there. It's not coming out until you make it do so.

File it.

 

[rgarbarino]

Mine only came out once and it was a royal pain. Once I changed backstraps and put it back in I see no reason it needs to come out again. I don't use it to flip the lever to get the slide off, finger works just fine.

 

[agksimon]

If you want it to come out easier, get some silicone grease and dab a very small amount on the tool. It will then insert and come out much easier. You can get it at a big box store in the plumbing or electrical department. Do NOT use any petroleum based grease, as that will soften the plastic and make it worse. If you continue to force it out and back it without any silicone grease on it, eventually the little locking nub will break off. I had to order another tool from S&W for this reason.

 

[turbo38gn]

why do you need to take it out everyday let alone at all?

 

[fdw]

I use a rag to save my fingers.

 

[mgo]

The smart gun smith at the shop where I bought my M&P told me that the tool can also be used to push out the roll pins in the pistol for detail stripping.

 

[CB3]

why do you need to take it out everyday let alone at all?

The tool is there for a number of purposes:

1. As the grip insert lock
2. As a tool to depress the sear deactivation lever for slide removal
3. As a tool to remove frame pins
4. As a guide for reinserting certain parts and pins, such as when doing an Apex parts install.

If it is actually convenient to remove and reinsert, it will be used more often. If it is as inconvenient as the factory tolerances make it, then most people only use it for #1.

Because mine comes out and goes back in so easily, I use it for #2 every time I remove the slide. Filing the locking nobs was simple and makes the tool much more accessible and therefore useful. I don't like operating the sear deactivation with the nail of my little finger. I can do it, but I prefer not to.

I have used it for the last two options also, but obviously not regularly.

 

[turbo38gn]

The tool is there for a number of purposes:

1. As the grip insert lock
2. As a tool to depress the sear deactivation lever for slide removal
3. As a tool to remove frame pins
4. As a guide for reinserting certain parts and pins, such as when doing an Apex parts install.

If it is actually convenient to remove and reinsert, it will be used more often. If it is as inconvenient as the factory tolerances make it, then most people only use it for #1.

Because mine comes out and goes back in so easily, I use it for #2 every time I remove the slide. Filing the locking nobs was simple and makes the tool much more accessible and therefore useful. I don't like operating the sear deactivation with the nail of my little finger. I can do it, but I prefer not to.

I have used it for the last two options also, but obviously not regularly.

nice.... If mine were easier to remove... I'd use it to pick my nose....

Just thought of another use... clean the wax out of my ears...

 

[TxAggie]

The tool is there for a number of purposes:



1. As the grip insert lock

2. As a tool to depress the sear deactivation lever for slide removal

3. As a tool to remove frame pins

4. As a guide for reinserting certain parts and pins, such as when doing an Apex parts install.



If it is actually convenient to remove and reinsert, it will be used more often. If it is as inconvenient as the factory tolerances make it, then most people only use it for #1.



Because mine comes out and goes back in so easily, I use it for #2 every time I remove the slide. Filing the locking nobs was simple and makes the tool much more accessible and therefore useful. I don't like operating the sear deactivation with the nail of my little finger. I can do it, but I prefer not to.



I have used it for the last two options also, but obviously not regularly.

I was just noticing how it fits the pins, thanks for confirming my suspicion, especially as I have an Apex kit to install.

 

[Nakanokalronin]

The grip tool can be used for a few things, but I see it more as a field tool when no real tools are around. Better to use roll pin punches and a precision flat head screw driver for taking apart an M&P.

 

[CB3]

The grip tool can be used for a few things, but I see it more as a field tool when no real tools are around. Better to use roll pin punches and a precision flat head screw driver for taking apart an M&P.

Or your little finger's precision nail.

 

[Nakanokalronin]

Or your little finger's precision nail.

If your nails are long enough. The flat head precision screw driver is also good for prying up the sear housing from the frame, pushing the striker guide forward to remove the slide plate, moving the spring over and out to reverse the mag catch, holding down the sear when removing it's pin, etc. After that it's a set of roll pin punches and a hammer for a complete tear down.