opinions from responsible gun owners.

I never did trust those ducks.

You never know when they're going to quack up. :o

On the other hand, they'd better be careful. That kitty has four paws full of switchblades. :o :o

I doubt anybody around here would look twice at those targets.
 
My wife thoroughly enjoys shooting silhouettes (I'm a bit afraid to ask her why)! She'd absolutely love them. I have no issue with them and I can't image anyone at my club having a cow over using them.

I'd pass on the kitties and baby ducks though!
 
Seriously though what are your opinions on these types of targets I am sure the difference in opinions from either side of the pond will differ but I am interested in what you guys think. :)
I'm not sure that "seriously" is a word that belongs in the post. However, since you ask, I will tell you that I like your first set of targets, I consider the second target an excellent response to your detractors, and your further response should be tempered only by consideration of potential personal consequences. Civility does NOT limit your proper response, since your antiquarian hall monitors have already transgressed the bounds thereof.
 
I've made all sorts of targets from small circles to a series with my bank and car loan and student loan depicted.

The only ones I think I have heard of or seen photos of that might be frowned upon pretty generally would be current world leaders ( although I think most of us would enjoy some of those, others might get the wrong idea ) and a figure wearing a hoodie during and shortly after the George Z/Trayvon M media circus.
I think the only that might cause me to seriously question the mental state of the shooter might be any depicting law enforcement, military, or emergency response personnel.
Other than for variety I don't know that different targets are helping your functional ability and accuracy but if you were actively practicing target selection and differentiation of threat from non threat then a bunch of concentric circles likely won't help, I know the red circles are clearly more hostile than the green ones but ya never know for sure.
 
Once at a range the couple next to us had his & hers zombie targets & at the time I couldn't help be think wedding pics.
 
I like them. I practice defensive shooting at 8.5"x11" pieces of white paper (standard typewriter paper). I practice point shooting at close range, and have no problem keeping all my shots on paper. However, I do like to know exactly where all my handguns are shooting at any given range, just because. Your targets were a good reminder to me exactly why I do that.

I was referring, of course, to the first set of targets, not the ducklings and kitten!
 
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Make up some more with some old "greys" on it.
I think some folks just like getting their panties in a wad.

Beat me to it!!!:mad::p

Seriously, those targets TEACH more about what protective shooting is. Not defensive, but rather protective.

England, eh????? Time for a new set of targets. I believe that if you search, you can find some pics of a young British soldier who was accosted by savages (Err, mosque donkeys.) They uh, cut off his HEAD. So, superimpose their pics, and the poor soldiers image, and take those in for target practice.

If they are opposed to that, step back to their heyday. Put an SS trooper and a Brit soldier of the period in the pic......

You'll garner many a 'Here, here!' from the whiny fossils. ;)
 
Awesome , going to try something the same a the range I use lets see if I get any grief.
We do have the targets of a bad guys to shoot at like one with a rag around his head, to tell the truth I was surprised at it, but it has been there every time.

Oh you have to let me know how it goes....I think I am going to use them again and leave them in the recycle box so 'Mr grey prone' can see them again, just before the next committee meeting and defend my case in a room full of people. Judging on feedback i've had from you guys and other club members, there is apparently NOTHING wrong with having fun :) just google the targets....thermal hostage targets. :)
 
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I wonder how your club member would react if the "bad guy" was wearing a German helment and the hostage looked like the Queen?!?!?!

Where is Sir Winston when you need him?

I am more "white headed" than gray and thing the targets are fine. Political correctness has run amuck!
 
One of the ranges I like had a bunch of young women shooting the other day. They were using Hooters girls targets. When asked I agreed whole heartedly that Hooters is clearly sexist. Andthen added that the outfits are kind of cute.

You can get away with comments like that when you are old.
 
We have targets here in the US that bleed when shot, wonder how that would go over? Targets are what they are and are used to tune our skills, nothing more. These old poots need to get a grip on reality. I think your targets rock and are more fun than shooting paper plates with a dot in the middle, that's for sure.

BTW, what's TV like over there?
 
One of the ranges I like had a bunch of young women shooting the other day. They were using Hooters girls targets. When asked I agreed whole heartedly that Hooters is clearly sexist. Andthen added that the outfits are kind of cute.

You can get away with comments like that when you are old.



Actually, I don't like the idea of shooting at the Hooter's girls.
Or any other "friendlies." Or the cute, cuddly sort of animals.
That's bad for our image.

But shooting ranges here have sold images of bad buys in general and Osama bin Laden, etc. I have no real objection to those, although I realize that some lukewarm shooters may think they're a little too like something a Rambo wannabe would fire on. Conventional human silhouettes seem a really good idea for defensive training, but in the UK, I don't think you're able to defend yourself with firearms or other deadly force?

BTW, you're from the north of England? I have some tea from Taylor's of Harrogate, in Yorkshire. They hold the Royal Warrant as suppliers of tea to the Prince of Wales. (Currently, Prince Charles, of course.) They supply some really good tea, in both their Yorkshire Gold blend to specific tea growing zones, like Assam and Ceylon and in their English Breakfast Tea. You've probably drunk their wares? Depending on the specific tea blend, I think they're on par with Twining's, my other favorite English tea provider. In fact, I prefer their Darjeeling to Twining's, as it's a fuller blend, which I prefer. The Twining's offering of Darjeeling is more effeminate.

But I wouldn't shoot at their tea boxes, as that might infer hostility to the firm. Someone nosy is always trying to infer bad things about gun owners.

In the topic here about visiting Memphis (Tennessee, not in Egypt), I mentioned having an English acquaintance who is now on holiday in the USA. She told me that she's reluctant to carry even her Swiss Army knife there because of the laws about bladed weapons! So she largely limits carrying it to when she's out shooting (mainly pheasant and woodcock) or hiking on the moors. Are your knife laws really that severe?!

I know about the awful gun act of 1997, and you have my sympathy. I think it was largely a matter of class envy, as guns were available mainly to the gentry, resented by the common people, especially by those unable to afford guns and club memberships, and unable to pass through the red tape and costs of becoming licensed to own a handgun.

I think the ban on foxhunting by horse was also a matter of class envy, more than an animal rights thing, although cruelty to animals was the official issue.

You have a different set of people and standards to deal with than I have in Texas. Because you cannot legitimately defend your life and those of your loved ones with guns, shooting at human targets will be frowned on.

I think I'd use targets of red deer, roe deer, snakes, etc. If you can print an image of an erect cobra, hood spread, it should be an excellent target there. I'd choose an Egyptian cobra (Naja haje) , with the gold bands on the throat and print it in color, if possible. You might be able to sell targets like that. Your own dangerous snake, the Euro viper (Vipera berus?) might also sell, unless animal protectionists have banned harming them. I'm going from memory on the species name, but you surely know the snake. I think it's the only local one known to be dangerous.

Here, I have to avoid or kill at least five dangerous snake species. But my state's politicians are mostly pro-gun. Your snakes are less dangerous, but the politicians...and you dare not fire at images of them!
 
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Oh you have to let me know how it goes....I think I am going to use them again and leave them in the recycle box so 'Mr grey prone' can see them again, just before the next committee meeting and defend my case in a room full of people. Judging on feedback i've had from you guys and other club members, there is apparently NOTHING wrong with having fun :) just google the targets....thermal hostage targets. :)

Political "correctness" is everywhere. I shoot USPSA which is the US division of IPSC. The targets are no longer "silhouette" targets but are "metric" targets. There is no longer a "head shot" but rather are "shots to the upper panel" (and body shots are to the lower panel). If this change in language helps allow competitive shooting in parts of the world, then I don't mind. A target is a target. ;)
 
Shooting at styrofoam heads from the wig shop is great fun with a .22! Larger calibers tend to make them not last very long!

medxam
 
IMO, it's all about what I call "Denial Mentality." Some people want to hide their heads under their bed covers, rather than admit we live in a troubled and often brutal world. They want to deny reality, and the OP reminded them of the uncomfortable fact that they might not be as safe as they'd like to feel.

In LE, we practice with man sized silhouette and hostage targets similar to those depicted. I see no reason why the Public should be denied the ability to train with them, but I do think promoting the idea of "having fun" while training with those kinds of targets bothers some folks. Perhaps substituting the unemotional accuracy and SD aspects of using such targets (rather than highlighting the "fun factor" involved) might make the greys more accepting.
 
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My experience of mr Prone recently was at a local range that I was looking to join, as is the way in the UK.

Go to range and meet people

Visit said range regularly (4 to 6 times a month) to get to know people and committee members.

Then apply for ticket and membership.

Be voted in once ticket issued and licence granted.

Then shoot, prone precision single point target, or off hand precision target or as a new discipline sport rifle shooting such as seen in Olympic comps. These can be either .22 or Air rifle at 20 and 25 mts.

Though no one " pushes to either discipline " it's what they do.

So when I asked where do I fit for standing kneeling and prone unsupported grouping shoots and the odd yeeehaawww moments I was told I could only shoot that style after the county shooters had shot their cards.

The last time I went as a "guest shooter" and paid for a lane I started to shoot at 22:30 and finished and left at midnight!

Was also told that I had to wait the mandatory 6 month period if I wanted to join. Even though I hold FAC and don't need police approval.

Difficult to see how they actually want to recruit new club members with that antiquated system that would mean full fees per year for extremely limited lane time.

Think I will stick the open land where I have owners permission and can pest control or target shoot at my discretion.

The "Greys" certainly have that range sown up. Can't wait till my next visit from FEO to explain how that range runs a closed door policy. Absolute joke.

I just love the open door and freedoms of the UK!!! :rolleyes:
 
I like the targets very much. Hey you are shooting a piece of paper. I can imagine NOTHING less important that what picture is on it. A lot of paranoids and control freaks just worry too much about the thoughts, feelings and preferences of others and don't like to see any image that represents something they don't care for (understand)

They can all go jump in the lake...take a long walk off a short pier...take a flyin' leap at the moon...those are about all the postable responses I'd have for them.
 
Civilians are allowed to use our local (USA) police gun range two days a week. In the name of being "family-friendly" (their term) no silhouette targets of any kind are allowed. (It's clearly stated in the Range Rules.)
 
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