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This was inspired by LV Steve's post about his experience with Ryan Airline. I'll not mention the name of the airline in my tale of woe because it is in the United States of America and is one of the biggies and there may be one or more memebers that work for this company and I don't want any hard feelings...or dings from the boss man. I'll simply refer to it as X Airline.


HELL'S AIRLINE

While my daughter was in the Army, building her money for college, she had left her car with me to sell and then send her the money. I wasn't having any trouble finding interested buyers but I wasn't having any luck actually selling the darn thing because of the outrageous insurance costs. It was a Pontiac Firebird and, although it had a small engine and was not a high performance car, it was still classified as a sports car, I assumed because of it's body style.

By the time she was transferred to Ft. Sill (Lawton Oklahoma) she had given up on ever selling the car so she called me one night and asked me, "Dad, if I'm going to be making payments on this car I'd like to be driving it. If I pay for your plane ticket home (The area just SE of Houston Texas) would you mind driving it up here to me?" I said I'd be happy to. I should have been listening for warning bells.

I like to drive at night so I left here about mid-night or so and drove from Deer Park, down in SE Texas to Lawton, Oklahoma non stop. It was well after day-light when I pulled into town. I took her car in to a service station for an oil change, radiator flush, transmission service, and tire rotation. While they were workring on the car I called my daughter and told her I'd made the trip okay and when her car was serviced I'd bring it out to her on the base.

When I got there she saw how sleepy I was and so we went and checked me into a motel in town and she agreed to come back for me that evening and we'd go to dinner. The next morning she'd pick me up and take me to the airport (I use the term very loosely)

Lawton Municipal Airport is a small square building. You can stand any where in the place and see the entire thing. It is mostly an X Airlines facility, featuring XX, X's subsidiary. There was also a small spot on the end of the counter for Y's subsidiary, YY

The entire ticket/service counter is approximately 35' long. 75% of that space is taken up by X. The lone ticket agent (or what ever) was a young woman in her early to mid twenties. Her short blond hair was stringy and dirty looking. Her make up was in pretty sorry shape and she looked like she'd slept in her uniform (on the ground) for 2 or 3 nights. She had bread, I think it was, crammed between all the teeth that showed and her deodorant had given up the struggle long ago, leaving behind huge perspiration stains. There was a small girl child of 4 or 5 years tugging at this young ladies uniform (I could only assume they were mother and daughter) and screaming, "Moma, Moma, I gotta PEE!

The child's hair was the same color blonde but more curly and longer. It was a mess. Small mammals could have been living in there. Her face sported a 2 or 3 day accumulation of dried dirt and snot and she was holding herself and yelling to beat the band how badly she had to go to the bathroom. Her mother was yelling right back at her, "Can't you see I'm working here? Just hold it till I get my break!"

I checked in when it was my turn and went and sat down with my daughter to wait for departure. I told her she needn't wait but she said she wanted to. So...we were having a nice visit when the announcement came that my flight would be delayed for an hour and a half. We decided to go eat breakfast.

When we returned to the airport I went to the counter and waited in a lengthy line to inquired as to my flight's status. While shaking the leg with the whining child hanging onto it she looked me dead in the eye and told me that the delay time had increased by one hour. I sent my daughter on her way and settled in for the wait. Now, this was all in the days before cell phones and I was having to call home with each new setback. I was to go into Dallas and fly on a real airplane (X, 727) to Houston where my wife was to pick me up. I was sweating the connection, still unaware of the downward spiral I was in...would I make it, or would I not??

I was just starting to get really antsy when the announcement came that my flight was cancelled. Every one in the joint must have been on that flight because in the next instant seemingly every one in the place was mobbing the little end of the counter with the Y subsidiary. I fought my way to the counter and got booked on a flight to Houston that left two hours from then. When I got that sorted out I moved along the counter into the space for XX and happened to notice out the window that there was a plane on the pad that had about a dozen guys working on it. Do you remember the old tv show from the '50s SKY KING? It was a plane just like that. A twin engine job and they had the cowling off both engines. There were parts and tools scattered all over the ground under both wings. Tempers were running hot too, as the guys were hollering at each other an nobody seemed to know what was going on. There were several extension cords going in through the side door and up into the cockpit. I asked the young mother if that was the plane that I was supposed to be flying on. She said that it was and that it would be ready "soon". :rolleyes: A cold shiver ran up my spine as I counted myself lucky. I'll be HAPPY to wait a few more hours if it will keep me off that hunka junka.

With only about a half hour to wait, the announcement came that the original plane had been repaired and was going to be departing 5 minutes sooner than my new plane. We had the option to stay like we were or go out on the original flight. I thought that over for about half a second and decided to stay like I was.

Shortly I watched the original plane take off and silently wished all aboard GOOD LUCK! They called my flight and when the plane pulled around in to view my heart sank. It was another twin engine plane only a lot smaller and if anything, looked older. The cock pit had a pilot seat and a seat for the copilot. The entry way into the cockpit had no door in it. There were 19 passenger seats, 9 on one side and 10 on the other. We all had to duck way down to walk the length of the plane. You can forget about any such thing as a flight attendant.

We took off, climbed to cruising altitude and leveled off. The plane ride was extremely bumpy. All I could see of the pilot, from where I was sitting, was his right arm and he had it out in the doorway and was holding a cup of coffee, The copilot had his left arm extended into the doorway as well and he also was holding a cup of coffee. The coffee was sloshing around and spilling on the floor and soon both cups were empty. The guy across the aisle and I just looked at each other and I expect he was as uncomfortable and worried as I was.

Interestingly enough, the pilot made the announcement that we were passing the flight that left before we did, I looked out my window and down at the "SKY KING SPECIAL" as we passed over it. It seemed to be struggling. I looked away and silently repeated my previous prayer for the safety of all aboard.

We landed in Dallas and, although I despise DFW, I was overjoyed to be there. I checked in at the X Airlines counter and was told that due to rough weather in New York, the origin of my flight to Houston, we were delayed by an hour and fifteen minutes.

So it's one more phone call to home.

Just to add to the aggravation and tension, there were 4 rowdy children in the waiting area who's parents were either not present or not interested in the mental health of the other people waiting for their flight. These kids were about 8 to 11 years old and running wildly and noisily all over the waiting area. I was beginning to wonder if I was going to be able to maintain proper deportment long enough to get home. I mean come on, a room full of sadistic comedians could not have written a worse script here.

Finally, our flight was announced. I was in line and the pilot was standing there at the entrance to the jetway urging folks along and when I got up next to him he put his hand in the middle of my back and gave me a shove, saying, "Alright people, we've got a lot of time to make up. Lets move on along now." I turned on him and calmly told him that it was not my fault the plane was running late and that if he touched me again that neither one of us'd never make it onto the plane. I must have had a heck of an expression because he dropped his eyes and walked back up the line. When I got on the plane he was there and gave me a look. I halfway expected to have the cops yank me off the plane and clap me in irons. At that point I didn't really care. All I wanted was to get home, failing that, to cause grievous bodily harm to the next X Airlines employee that I encountered.

Dallas to Houston is about a 35 minute flight. You take off, you climb to altitude, and the you immediately begin your decent to your approach to Dallas. I needed a drink badly so I ordered a double bloody mary. When the flight attendant handed me the drink we were still gaining altitude and the nose of the plain was pointing almost straight up. After the "hand-off" I noticed the flight attendant still standing there, arm extended, hand open, to receive the empty glass. She told me to go ahead and knock it back, that we were about to land. No problem...chug-a-lug, chug-a-lug, and here ya go, and thanks!

When we touched down in Houston I was about half a heartbeat from killin' some one. I saw my wife waiting and I just melted into a puddle of relief and gratitude. One hug and I was back to normal...mostly. She asked why I was so quiet on the way home but it was a few days before I could talk about it. See, if I'm going to get jerked around, even for a whole day...If I'm going to encounter one problem after another and if the day is a loss, I do a LOT better if I know it up front. This moment to moment thing get's me hot. There'll be a short delay....Sorry sir, the delay will be a little bit longer....sorry sir you're canceled...Sorry sir there will be yet one more delay...sorry...and so on. Grrrrrr!

I wrote a letter to X Airlines and asked my wife to read it and see if my language may have been a little too strong. She read it and told me that before I mailed it I ought to hire a lawyer. I put it down and went back to it the next day and reread it. I'm sure glad I did because the best thing that could have happened was that I'd be dismissed as a kook or crack pot. I guarantee that a letter like that in today's world of homeland security, etc, would get you locked up before you knew what was happening.

I never did find out if that other plane made it to Houston or not and I hope that the little girl in Lawton finally got to go to the bathroom before she had an accident. And I hope that both she and her mom got to spend a little time on personal hygiene before the sun rose and set too many more time.

Now you know why...I HATE TO FLY!
 
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I have logged over 3,000,000 miles over the years mostly when I was employed in the corporate world. I saw flying go from mostly fun in the 60s to what it is today. I avoid flying if at all possible anymore and feel sorry for those of you who are subjected to this particular form of debasement on a regular basis.
Jim
 
Actually I have been on several MAT flights. (Military Air Transport) Not comfortable and NO frills but I never had any problems either. Always got on standby and wound up making the flight. I think it was 4 times all in all.

I will never need any transportation out of Iraq... or any place in that part of the world. I can NOT imagine any thing that would motivate me to be there. If I ever wake up and I'm there the first thing I'm gonna do is get my *** out of there ASAP.
 
Wow, I guess you never flew MILAIR or tried to get a helicopter out of Taji, Iraq.

Spent some time at Anaconda, nobody was feeling my junk when I was in the middle east:D Oh and I still have my stamps flying into and out of Bagdad.
 
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30+ years ago I flew from Ft. Lauderdale to Dallas, No problem.

Then I got on that thing from Dallas to Lawton.

I was young and dumb then and was OK with the bumpy ride. It's when we started to land in Lawton I started to feel the weight of what the army did to me.

Every bleeping thing was brown and if you saw a pond it was brown too. I got off the plane and thought I had stepped into the gates of hell. Later I found out that there was something like 30 days of 100 degree weather.

That afternoon I met the buffalo. That night I competed and won a few contests in the Budweiser Olympics. 3.2 water. Ha!

I learned a lot about Oklahoma while there and kinda miss it, Mostly the people. I stayed there for a year after ETS. Had a cool job for a while.
 
Several years ago I paid fifty bucks I couldn't spare for a short ride in a 1929 Ford Trimotor that was eight years old when I was born.

Air passengers in those days, especially the ones who flew coast to coast, had to be tough.

The noise of the engines was shattering. The seats were non-adjustable wood-and-wicker affairs. The cabin would certainly have been cold in winter--it was hot on a mild early fall day. I was seated behind the cockpit, with an open door allowing me to read the oinstruments (including the altimeter--we never went above 1900 feet).

Not posh or even comfortable. But from Jack's story, and all the tales of inefficiency and passenger humiliation I've read or heard in recent years, it really doesn't seem quite as bad. :D:D
 
I have logged over 3,000,000 miles over the years mostly when I was employed in the corporate world. I saw flying go from mostly fun in the 60s to what it is today. I avoid flying if at all possible anymore and feel sorry for those of you who are subjected to this particular form of debasement on a regular basis.
Jim

Same here, although I did not log nearly so many miles. Back in the 1960’s and 1970’s I enjoyed flying a great deal and especially on late night flights where you were often one of just a few passengers on the plane. Then in the 1990’s it really was going down hill fast.

Today you could not pay me to fly someplace. Today if I cannot drive there I just don’t go there.

I really feel sorry for people who did not get to know this country during the 1950's and the 1960's. Those were this nation's golden years. I was more free during that period than any other time. People still had space and room to move around and live without trampling all over each other, at least in Texas we did.
 
This was inspired by LV Steve's post about his experience with Ryan Airline. I'll not mention the name of the airline in my tale of woe because it is in the United States of America and is one of the biggies and there may be one or more memebers that work for this company and I don't want any hard feelings...or dings from the boss man. I'll simply refer to it as X Airline.


HELL'S AIRLINE

While my daughter was in the Army, building her money for college, she had left her car with me to sell and then send her the money. I wasn't having any trouble finding interested buyers but I wasn't having any luck actually selling the darn thing because of the outrageous insurance costs. It was a Pontiac Firebird and, although it had a small engine and was not a high performance car, it was still classified as a sports car, I assumed because of it's body style.

By the time she was transferred to Ft. Sill (Lawton Oklahoma) she had given up on ever selling the car so she called me one night and asked me, "Dad, if I'm going to be making payments on this car I'd like to be driving it. If I pay for your plane ticket home (The area just SE of Houston Texas) would you mind driving it up here to me?" I said I'd be happy to. I should have been listening for warning bells.

I like to drive at night so I left here about mid-night or so and drove from Deer Park, down in SE Texas to Lawton, Oklahoma non stop. It was well after day-light when I pulled into town. I took her car in to a service station for an oil change, radiator flush, transmission service, and tire rotation. While they were workring on the car I called my daughter and told her I'd made the trip okay and when her car was serviced I'd bring it out to her on the base.

When I got there she saw how sleepy I was and so we went and checked me into a motel in town and she agreed to come back for me that evening and we'd go to dinner. The next morning she'd pick me up and take me to the airport (I use the term very loosely)

Lawton Municipal Airport is a small square building. You can stand any where in the place and see the entire thing. It is mostly an X Airlines facility, featuring XX, X's subsidiary. There was also a small spot on the end of the counter for Y's subsidiary, YY

The entire ticket/service counter is approximately 35' long. 75% of that space is taken up by X. The lone ticket agent (or what ever) was a young woman in her early to mid twenties. Her short blond hair was stringy and dirty looking. Her make up was in pretty sorry shape and she looked like she'd slept in her uniform (on the ground) for 2 or 3 nights. She had bread, I think it was, crammed between all the teeth that showed and her deodorant had given up the struggle long ago, leaving behind huge perspiration stains. There was a small girl child of 4 or 5 years tugging at this young ladies uniform (I could only assume they were mother and daughter) and screaming, "Moma, Moma, I gotta PEE!

The child's hair was the same color blonde but more curly and longer. It was a mess. Small mammals could have been living in there. Her face sported a 2 or 3 day accumulation of dried dirt and snot and she was holding herself and yelling to beat the band how badly she had to go to the bathroom. Her mother was yelling right back at her, "Can't you see I'm working here? Just hold it till I get my break!"

I checked in when it was my turn and went and sat down with my daughter to wait for departure. I told her she needn't wait but she said she wanted to. So...we were having a nice visit when the announcement came that my flight would be delayed for an hour and a half. We decided to go eat breakfast.

When we returned to the airport I went to the counter and waited in a lengthy line to inquired as to my flight's status. While shaking the leg with the whining child hanging onto it she looked me dead in the eye and told me that the delay time had increased by one hour. I sent my daughter on her way and settled in for the wait. Now, this was all in the days before cell phones and I was having to call home with each new setback. I was to go into Dallas and fly on a real airplane (X, 727) to Houston where my wife was to pick me up. I was sweating the connection, still unaware of the downward spiral I was in...would I make it, or would I not??

I was just starting to get really antsy when the announcement came that my flight was cancelled. Every one in the joint must have been on that flight because in the next instant seemingly every one in the place was mobbing the little end of the counter with the Y subsidiary. I fought my way to the counter and got booked on a flight to Houston that left two hours from then. When I got that sorted out I moved along the counter into the space for XX and happened to notice out the window that there was a plane on the pad that had about a dozen guys working on it. Do you remember the old tv show from the '50s SKY KING? It was a plane just like that. A twin engine job and they had the cowling off both engines. There were parts and tools scattered all over the ground under both wings. Tempers were running hot too, as the guys were hollering at each other an nobody seemed to know what was going on. There were several extension cords going in through the side door and up into the cockpit. I asked the young mother if that was the plane that I was supposed to be flying on. She said that it was and that it would be ready "soon". :rolleyes: A cold shiver ran up my spine as I counted myself lucky. I'll be HAPPY to wait a few more hours if it will keep me off that hunka junka.

With only about a half hour to wait, the announcement came that the original plane had been repaired and was going to be departing 5 minutes sooner than my new plane. We had the option to stay like we were or go out on the original flight. I thought that over for about half a second and decided to stay like I was.

Shortly I watched the original plane take off and silently wished all aboard GOOD LUCK! They called my flight and when the plane pulled around in to view my heart sank. It was another twin engine plane only a lot smaller and if anything, looked older. The cock pit had a pilot seat and a seat for the copilot. The entry way into the cockpit had no door in it. There were 19 passenger seats, 9 on one side and 10 on the other. We all had to duck way down to walk the length of the plane. You can forget about any such thing as a flight attendant.

We took off, climbed to cruising altitude and leveled off. The plane ride was extremely bumpy. All I could see of the pilot, from where I was sitting, was his right arm and he had it out in the doorway and was holding a cup of coffee, The copilot had his left arm extended into the doorway as well and he also was holding a cup of coffee. The coffee was sloshing around and spilling on the floor and soon both cups were empty. The guy across the aisle and I just looked at each other and I expect he was as uncomfortable and worried as I was.

Interestingly enough, the pilot made the announcement that we were passing the flight that left before we did, I looked out my window and down at the "SKY KING SPECIAL" as we passed over it. It seemed to be struggling. I looked away and silently repeated my previous prayer for the safety of all aboard.

We landed in Dallas and, although I despise DFW, I was overjoyed to be there. I checked in at the X Airlines counter and was told that due to rough weather in New York, the origin of my flight to Houston, we were delayed by an hour and fifteen minutes.

So it's one more phone call to home.

Just to add to the aggravation and tension, there were 4 rowdy children in the waiting area who's parents were either not present or not interested in the mental health of the other people waiting for their flight. These kids were about 8 to 11 years old and running wildly and noisily all over the waiting area. I was beginning to wonder if I was going to be able to maintain proper deportment long enough to get home. I mean come on, a room full of sadistic comedians could not have written a worse script here.

Finally, our flight was announced. I was in line and the pilot was standing there at the entrance to the jetway urging folks along and when I got up next to him he put his hand in the middle of my back and gave me a shove, saying, "Alright people, we've got a lot of time to make up. Lets move on along now." I turned on him and calmly told him that it was not my fault the plane was running late and that if he touched me again that neither one of us'd never make it onto the plane. I must have had a heck of an expression because he dropped his eyes and walked back up the line. When I got on the plane he was there and gave me a look. I halfway expected to have the cops yank me off the plane and clap me in irons. At that point I didn't really care. All I wanted was to get home, failing that, to cause grievous bodily harm to the next X Airlines employee that I encountered.

Dallas to Houston is about a 35 minute flight. You take off, you climb to altitude, and the you immediately begin your decent to your approach to Dallas. I needed a drink badly so I ordered a double bloody mary. When the flight attendant handed me the drink we were still gaining altitude and the nose of the plain was pointing almost straight up. After the "hand-off" I noticed the flight attendant still standing there, arm extended, hand open, to receive the empty glass. She told me to go ahead and knock it back, that we were about to land. No problem...chug-a-lug, chug-a-lug, and here ya go, and thanks!

When we touched down in Houston I was about half a heartbeat from killin' some one. I saw my wife waiting and I just melted into a puddle of relief and gratitude. One hug and I was back to normal...mostly. She asked why I was so quiet on the way home but it was a few days before I could talk about it. See, if I'm going to get jerked around, even for a whole day...If I'm going to encounter one problem after another and if the day is a loss, I do a LOT better if I know it up front. This moment to moment thing get's me hot. There'll be a short delay....Sorry sir, the delay will be a little bit longer....sorry sir you're canceled...Sorry sir there will be yet one more delay...sorry...and so on. Grrrrrr!

I wrote a letter to X Airlines and asked my wife to read it and see if my language may have been a little too strong. She read it and told me that before I mailed it I ought to hire a lawyer. I put it down and went back to it the next day and reread it. I'm sure glad I did because the best thing that could have happened was that I'd be dismissed as a kook or crack pot. I guarantee that a letter like that in today's world of homeland security, etc, would get you locked up before you knew what was happening.

I never did find out if that other plane made it to Houston or not and I hope that the little girl in Lawton finally got to go to the bathroom before she had an accident. And I hope that both she and her mom got to spend a little time on personal hygiene before the sun rose and set too many more time.

Now you know why...I HATE TO FLY!

This story above--would make for a great screenplay for the 3rd Airplane movie. :D Can I borrow this and send it in to Warner Brothers Studios??:D
 
Here is my horror story: I landed at DFW coming back from Germany on Oct 15th 2000. The flight to Germany was a 1st class experiance BUT the trip home was good at first, except for someone trying to keep someone from lowering the back of their seat to sorta rest--so I had to listen for 10 LONG hours--an Indian (from India) lady and (no foolin) a Cowboy--gripe about the seat.

Anyway--thats just where the fun began. Landed at DFW--my flight back to Corpus was SUPPOSED to be intwo hours00well--it was more like 14 hours later. Some reasons why we couldnt fly out were: Crew refused to show up, maintenance couldnt find the keys to unlock aircraft for servicing, crew shows up be maintenance left, a pilot showed up after having too many shaken (not stirred) Martinis (I guess?) Then, after a non drunk crew showed up-they made several embarassing announcements over the intercom ranging from: Pilot misssing-wtill waiting for a replacement to arrrive (dozens of cancellated flights and delayed flights announcements, the one that scared the heck out of me was (and Iwas sitting next to a Reverend who was also waiting for his flight back to Laredo or somewhere? and the announcement was: "Flight delayed because were waiting for someone to show up and fix the plane." The Rev and I looked at each other in disbelief an he said:"Im a Reverend, and have been one for over 30 years. Ive made dozens of flights never having any problems of anykind. Then he goes on: Even I--dont have THAT kind of pull--with the Lord, to help this airline out.

He finally got his fligght aout 10PM--having been there since 2PM--like me. I finally got my flight at about 2AM--the damned Airconditioner wasnt working--it hwas hot as lave in there-we all were sweating buckets of water. they were SUPPOSED to serve us cold drinks of our choice--nope--everything was room temperature. That was the last time--I flew on that partcular hell hole airline--and its one of the biggest one out there.

I left a lot out because I can no longer accurately recall all details but--this is the easier version of what happened.
 
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Spent some time at Anaconda, nobody was feeling my junk when I was in the middle east:D Oh and I still have my stamps flying into and out of Bagdad.

Actually, I was talking to the OP but your post beat mine and got in between me and the OP.
 
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