Surprising statistic (to me)...

[Adk.IBO]

I never would have dreamt less than 5% legally conceal carry. And that is just those that can, even less probably do. Guess I never thought about it and that I was in that much of a minority. Any body else surprized at this?

Stay safe, John

 

[Adk.IBO]

Kind of brings up the question of what % illegally carries (bad guys)? And what % of the population are law enforcement?

 

[pjpjr]

I never would have dreamt less than 5% legally conceal carry. And that is just those that can, even less probably do. Guess I never thought about it and that I was in that much of a minority. Any body else surprized at this?

Stay safe, John

I also find this statistic interesting. Would you care to share your source? I would like to read up on this!

 

[Golphin]

I would think it would vary from sate to state and even regions. You can bet the percentage in the South East is much higher than the North East. There are 1,300,000. permits in Florida and you can carry pistol in your vehicle glove box or console with no permit in Florida.

 

[Adk.IBO]

I also find this statistic interesting. Would you care to share your source? I would like to read up on this!

I know I read it on the 1911 forum. Google it? Maybe I'm all wet. I'll see if I can find it.

Nope, not the 1911 forum, I googled it. crimepreventionresearchcenter.org 18 page pdf file listing states. This is what I googled- Percent of population concealed carry

 

[cracker57]

Wisconsin 2013 population 5,742,713
Wisconsin has reached a concealed weapons permit milestone. Oct.1st 2013
Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen announced Tuesday that permit number 200,000 was printed Monday at the Department of Justice's secure processing center in downtown Madison.
200000 is what percent of 5742713
= 200000 / 5742713
= 0.034827

Converting decimal to a percentage:
0.034827 * 100 = 3.48%
If half of those carry regularly that would only be 1.75%

 

[ISCS Yoda]

Here's your source:

http://crimepreventionresearchcente...y-Permit-Holders-Across-the-United-States.pdf

It's no surprise to those of us who are CHL instructors but I can see where if you have not been told these numbers, and you hang around on this Forum or similar, and your friends carry, too, you start to feel like everyone does it. That would be incorrect.

I should tell you that the copyright in 2014 is the Crime Prevention Resource Center - that was SUPPOSED to be a URL!!! They have it rigged somehow that by pasting the URL it gives you the whole research paper. I have NO idea how they did that but I'll leave it, I think the moderators will allow it since I credited the copyright owner and it's the owner who set this up - I have never seen anything done like that before.

***GRJ***

 

[MrJT]

8.7% / 870,000 in PA. Not too bad, one of the top states in percentage and quantity.

 

[Adk.IBO]

Yeah, and New York manages to not reveal any statistics...hmmmm....

 

[Rastoff]

...that was SUPPOSED to be a URL!!!

They made a change to the site software some time ago. Now if you post a link, it embeds the content of the link. So, a PDF will embed the doc and a youtube link will embed the vid. It's a forum thing not from the source.

You made no copyright infringement because it's posted on a public domain and didn't claim it was your own work.

 

[amazingflapjack]

They must not have counted Florida and Texas.

 

[shouldazagged]

I don't know the percentage for my adopted home state, Kentucky, but I'd bet it's over 5%. This was recently listed as the fifth most gun-friendly state in the country.

 

[ClayCow]

I think Utah is 11% one of the nation's highest

I did when I lived elsewhere but it gets spendy to take different classes in different states along with registration fees and that 8 hour class. That's why.

 

[cracker57]

Claycow,
it gets spendy when you get buried also.

 

[petepeterson]

I think I know more people with permits that don't carry, than do carry.

 

[ClayCow]

Claycow,
it gets spendy when you get buried also.

Eh it's cheap. 7k and I'm out of everyone's hair for life. Pretty sure people would be donating left and right to get me out of their life : ) I also have almost $1M life insurance so I hope they could spare $7k.

I don't know, I liked have ccw in case I was wrongly transporting my weapon, it was also nice going to shady neighborhoods with it on. But even though I don't carry now, I have never needed it before and feel just fine without it. When I did stop carrying, I felt a bit naked but that went away.

More than likely If you stay away from bad spots and give the people what they want, they're not going to want to kill you. Most people aren't out to kill you, just to take your stuff. And those people mainly reside in poorer areas, areas I try to stay away from. I mean you basically have a .001% chance of ever needing the gun much less using it.

I just spent 200 last year in ccw, just moved again and don't want to spend another 200 when I'll only be here for 2 years.

 

[JohnSW]

What surprised me:

South Dakota: 12.03%

Texas: 3.65%

 

[BAM-BAM]

8.7% / 870,000 in PA. Not too bad, one of the top states in percentage and quantity.

Pa. has been a "shall issue" state for a good while...... even before that it wasn't hard to get a permit ..... at least outside of Philadelphia.....

 

[murphydog]

The percentages don't greatly surprise me. I am a little surprised that many permit holders don't/won't regularly carry? I have always had the philosophy that it is "better to have and not need, than to need and not have" - including auto seat belts and airbags, motorcycle helmets, and a means to defend myself.

Studies have consistently shown permissive carry states consistently show decreases in violent crime rates even with a relatively small percentage of concealed permits (and apparently even fewer holders actually carrying). It raises the odds that the bad guys will run into an armed potental victim, and they can't predict who is armed.

 

[ClayCow]

What surprised me:

South Dakota: 12.03%

Texas: 3.65%

Remember Texas has a huge population so In comparison of pure numbers to south dakota, it's probably like 30 of South Dakota population in actual numbers