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Thanks, Rastoff. I'm looking forward to trying Challenge II. Hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.
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No fancy targets for me; I aim at a square of duct tape (the square got shredded but there are remnants if you look close.) Here's my submission:
Here it is in another view with the Colt CCG used:
Now, in the interest of full disclosure, I didn't follow the course exactly. Due to range congestion, I was unable to shoot at 3 yards--so I fired those four shots at 5 yards. Also, it was a mixed bag at the range--this gun is new and it stove piped and threw some brass in my face. Called Colt and it's going back to the factory for rework.
The penny is for scale; it is exactly 0.750" and according to my measurements I get 1.8" for my group but I will defer to Rastoff's computer for the final tally!
Here it is in another view with the Colt CCG used:
Now, in the interest of full disclosure, I didn't follow the course exactly. Due to range congestion, I was unable to shoot at 3 yards--so I fired those four shots at 5 yards. Also, it was a mixed bag at the range--this gun is new and it stove piped and threw some brass in my face. Called Colt and it's going back to the factory for rework.
The penny is for scale; it is exactly 0.750" and according to my measurements I get 1.8" for my group but I will defer to Rastoff's computer for the final tally!
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I would not want to get in a shoot out with a Wisconsin boy if they all shoot like you!
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Well Waywatcher, not only can you shoot, but you know how to measure a group. Assuming you were using a .45ACP (.451" bullet diameter) and using the penny as a reference (.75" diameter), it measures like this:
I had to guess at the aim point because...well...it's missing. I also had to take a "best guess" at the upper left two rounds. The tearing really makes it hard to determine bullet hole location. Anyway, this is what the computer shows. Doesn't matter, a very nice group. So far, only David R and my groups are better.
I had to guess at the aim point because...well...it's missing. I also had to take a "best guess" at the upper left two rounds. The tearing really makes it hard to determine bullet hole location. Anyway, this is what the computer shows. Doesn't matter, a very nice group. So far, only David R and my groups are better.
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Thanks Rastoff!
The aim point was a little higher. I pulled 3 shots low (which is why their grease rings show up so nice.) .45 Auto indeed.
I had a fun time and it was the first time I'd gotten out to the range in about a month!
The aim point was a little higher. I pulled 3 shots low (which is why their grease rings show up so nice.) .45 Auto indeed.
I had a fun time and it was the first time I'd gotten out to the range in about a month!
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Fantastic! This is ultimately the goal here, to get out and shoot. Hopefully, have some fun in the process. I think it's worked at least a little.
Rick_A
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Of course. All my centerfire guns are self defense guns. I don't believe in range guns.
I can shoot ragged holes at 10-15 yards quite easily with most, while I can't at speed. My goal is to eventually match my slow fire group sizes while shooting as fast as I can.
For 20-25 yards out the little guns are a fun challenge.
I'm hoping to cut that in half eventually.
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OK, show us.
Seriously, this is exactly what got me thinking about this challenge. I hear this all the time. Guys on the internet say, "I normally shoot 2" groups at 25 yards" or "I can shoot 3" groups at 50 yards with my super special wonder gun" yet I never see it.
I spend a lot of time at the range. I see a lot of targets. It's a rare day that I see a group smaller than 10" at 7 yards, let alone 50.
So, since I tell my students that the qualification test is easy, I decided to test myself and see just how easy. It wasn't easy for me to shoot the group I did in the OP. It took a lot of concentration on my fundamentals to get that group. And, I don't think my group is all that fantastic. I do think that is about as good as I can do right now.
AMEN!!!!
I laughed at how easy this would be to show up a big-talking Californian and a bunch of yankees! We shoot at 25 yards minimun, 50 yards to make it interesting. Amazing how far that 10 yard line is when you actually measure it with a tape measure. Maybe we are NOT shooting at 25 and 50 yards after all. Heck, I would have guessed the 10 yard line to be 15 to 20 yards minimun, but it was only 10 yards or 30 feet.
And I thought I could shoot a gnats eye out at a 100 yards with any of my revolvers or pistols! Yea right! I see Hickok45 ring the gong with .22 short derringers! And he makes it looks easy. I know I can do as well or better with my big guns.
Amazing how hard this was, especially cutting out the bull.
I laughed at how easy this would be to show up a big-talking Californian and a bunch of yankees! We shoot at 25 yards minimun, 50 yards to make it interesting. Amazing how far that 10 yard line is when you actually measure it with a tape measure. Maybe we are NOT shooting at 25 and 50 yards after all. Heck, I would have guessed the 10 yard line to be 15 to 20 yards minimun, but it was only 10 yards or 30 feet.
And I thought I could shoot a gnats eye out at a 100 yards with any of my revolvers or pistols! Yea right! I see Hickok45 ring the gong with .22 short derringers! And he makes it looks easy. I know I can do as well or better with my big guns.
Amazing how hard this was, especially cutting out the bull.
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Truly impressive waywatcher. I am going to try it with my full size 45. It was my defense gun until I bought the light weight ACP.
This is a blast! I will be buying more B27 which I have NEVER shot at until now.
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This is a blast! I will be buying more B27 which I have NEVER shot at until now.
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I haven't really shot my handguns for any kind of accuracy since The Shooting Center at S&W closed... he, that was an eye opener yesterday at my local outdoor range... I threw the targets away...
Been carrying my M&P40fs, instead of my Shield 40 lately. First shot from about 15 yds was an absolute almost dead center bullseye.. I turned around to my wife and said.. sheeeeeeit... it was all downhill from there. I did ok, good enough for what I call.... DEAD... but nowhere near Rassy's targets.. I need some patience and practice.. thanks for the kick in the butt!!! I need to get at it more..
Been carrying my M&P40fs, instead of my Shield 40 lately. First shot from about 15 yds was an absolute almost dead center bullseye.. I turned around to my wife and said.. sheeeeeeit... it was all downhill from there. I did ok, good enough for what I call.... DEAD... but nowhere near Rassy's targets.. I need some patience and practice.. thanks for the kick in the butt!!! I need to get at it more..
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Rastoff thank you for the challenge The wife and I both shoot probably more than the average person, so we needed something to change up the competition a little bit. I know it's sacrilege,
her plastic gun glock against my little 2" snub but what fun! I've had the 10-5 for maybe 3 months, what a gas to shoot, but there is definitely room for improvement at 10 yards. Still I tell her not to shabby for a couple old farts
Oh, by the way... your targets work great!
The wife and I both shoot probably more than the average person, so we needed something to change up the competition a little bit. I know it's sacrilege, her plastic gun glock against my little 2" snub but what fun! I've had the 10-5 for maybe 3 months, what a gas to shoot, but there is definitely room for improvement at 10 yards. Still I tell her not to shabby for a couple old fartsOh, by the way... your targets work great!
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Now you went and made it a family affair. Today before lunch, I said to my son I am going to the range. He said me too. He is 23, we have a welding business.
We shot the course of fire using my old bullseye 45. This is the same gun my son hit a couple rams last year in hunter silly wet.
We had a blast and went back to work.
We shot the course of fire using my old bullseye 45. This is the same gun my son hit a couple rams last year in hunter silly wet.
We had a blast and went back to work.
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Y'all are putting up some fine targets. I'm really enjoying watching the shooting results.
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I know I'm late to enter. My son got sick early this week so everything got put on hold. But I made it to the range tonight, however I couldn't remember what the actual challenge was other than to shoot at a B-27 target. So I took my model 15 no dash out. Loaded 20 rounds in it(not all at the same time mind you) put the target out at 15 yards. And let it fly double action style.
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