Now an LEO is charged with murder here...
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Come on now, do you really want people with taillights out running around your neighborhood ?
JJEH
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That's the video I saw.
White SC officer charged with murder for shooting black man - FOX 32 News Chicago
You need to see the one where the cop handcuffs him and then runs back to pick up his taser to plant it near the dead guy, right there the cop new he was "DEAD" wrong, I'm sure he never thought he was being filmed.
RalphMP9FS
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That's exactly the way it looks. I wonder how many LEO shootings like like this occur that weren't filmed and never questioned.
Watching that video multiple times the guy never had the taser, the cop flips it behind himself then shoots the man dead, handcuffs him runs back to retrieve the taser to plant it by the dead man, really how does anyone defend that ?
What blows my mind is how calm he is. Like putting down a rabid dog.
Good Lord man, you just took a human life!
Good Lord man, you just took a human life!
Camera's and video devices are everywhere, be on your best behavior.
Of what, fathering more babies and failing to pay child support?
I'm getting an action cam that I'm gonna take biking, hiking, use it as a dash cam and stuff for my video channel. I hope to never see anything like that.
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I will always try to support the position of any LEO involved in an altercation however I cannot do so in this case based solely on the video I have reviewed.
In as much as the actual shooting doesn't appear to be in any self defense capacity I am troubled by the apparent rush to pick up an object only to drop it near the victim. NOTHING at the scene should have been disturbed unless it was to secure a dangerous condition. The technicians will photograph and document the most minute detail.
While I can't tell for sure that it was the officers taser, later on in the video while standing near the victim he does pick something up off the ground and appears to return it to his duty belt; where his taser would have been holstered...
Although we don't see events prior to the shooting even if the object picked up was a weapon carried by the victim-unlikely as it still should not have been moved from where it was dropped-the post shooting actions of the officer cannot in any way justify the actual shooting.
Unless there's something we don't yet know it would seem that the charge is appropriate. His Chief seems to have came to the same conclusion almost immediately and he at least would know more than we do.
In as much as the actual shooting doesn't appear to be in any self defense capacity I am troubled by the apparent rush to pick up an object only to drop it near the victim. NOTHING at the scene should have been disturbed unless it was to secure a dangerous condition. The technicians will photograph and document the most minute detail.
While I can't tell for sure that it was the officers taser, later on in the video while standing near the victim he does pick something up off the ground and appears to return it to his duty belt; where his taser would have been holstered...
Although we don't see events prior to the shooting even if the object picked up was a weapon carried by the victim-unlikely as it still should not have been moved from where it was dropped-the post shooting actions of the officer cannot in any way justify the actual shooting.
Unless there's something we don't yet know it would seem that the charge is appropriate. His Chief seems to have came to the same conclusion almost immediately and he at least would know more than we do.
This could be why the lawyer that initially represented the officer has now resigned as his counsel. Lying to your lawyer is not only stupid, it's a cardinal sin.
I learned long ago, back in the 1980s when I was a union shop steward, that there is nothing more embarrassing than having the person you are representing lie to you about what happened. It makes it very easy for the other side to make you look the fool and make your client look even more guilty.
It's even worse when you are a lawyer and your client is facing life in prison or worse.
There might be things that the officer could say to mitigate the circumstances, but they are all undermined if he lied in his statements to his attorney.
I learned long ago, back in the 1980s when I was a union shop steward, that there is nothing more embarrassing than having the person you are representing lie to you about what happened. It makes it very easy for the other side to make you look the fool and make your client look even more guilty.
It's even worse when you are a lawyer and your client is facing life in prison or worse.
There might be things that the officer could say to mitigate the circumstances, but they are all undermined if he lied in his statements to his attorney.
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This soon-to-be ex-cop is history. He threw his own life away in the approximately three seconds it took to fire those eight shots into the back of a man running away.
I wonder if all eight shots hit the guy? And if not, wonder where those bullets went?
I wonder if all eight shots hit the guy? And if not, wonder where those bullets went?
zzzippper
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I disagree. I watched the video with a former LEO. Watch the officers actions. He shoots the runner in the back, runs up and handcuffs him. He then runs back to where the tazer was dropped at the site of the original fight dozens of feet away. He then runs back to the prone and cuffed perp and drops the tazer. He then kneels down and picks up the tazer and holsters it.
A bad shooting and with the help of the video completely indefensible.
As I read that I was thinking that it is the most bizarre thing I have ever seen you write - in quite a few years.
Did he drop the taser before the other officer arrived?
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