I am new to the long distance shooting game. I have an MP10 with a Nikon M-308 scope. I've read every thread here and have learned a ton. What I'm trying to find out is what grain and bullet type is best. I'm not a "group" shooter. This is a battle rifle, but I'd like to push the limits of this scope as well. I know it was made for the BTHP 168gr, but when I play with the app, it gives longer distances for some of the 150gr stuff. Would a ZQI 147gr bullet hit out to 800? I don't mind spending the extra, but I don't need a $2 bullet. I'm sure alot of you gents have tried alot of different rounds. I'd like to settle on one round that will serve the purpose and start stocking up. Thanks in advance, folks, and stay sharp.
A little help for a newbie.
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I have had good luck inside 250 yds with good old Core Lokt 150 gr and 180 gr. It is 18.00 a box at Walmart, will do all you need for a battle rifle. For very long distance shooting the higher priced stuff seems to be needed from all I have read.
Arik
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$2 rounds are usually expensive for a reason. Will ZQI hit out to 800? Yea but maybe not as consistently and may need more of a hold over.
There is no "best". There are bullets ment for longer distance but they cost money. They won't be your typical range or general use ammo. In the end each rifle shoots,differently. Your rifle may shoot the same ammo better then my identical rifle.
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There is no "best". There are bullets ment for longer distance but they cost money. They won't be your typical range or general use ammo. In the end each rifle shoots,differently. Your rifle may shoot the same ammo better then my identical rifle.
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Thanks for the knowledge. I'm looking to buy bulk from freedommunnitions. Their pistol ammo has always run well in my XD's. The 150gr is .49/rd. With the scope I'm running I'm not too concerned with holdover, more if the round can be effective at longer range. Their 168BTHP is only like .78/rd. I'm wanting to start with 1000 rounds.
Arik
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Shooting that far out has as much to do with the shooter as it does with the ammo and the rifle. The best rifle and ammo will fail if the end user can't do his part. I'd start out at 200 or so
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It seems to me these are sensitive to ammo. Mine has not done well with any 150gr that I have tried. If you are looking to go long, 168 ot 175 is a good range of bullet weight. I think Freedom does some 168 Amax as well as the bthp, you just got to try them. You will fond other reloaders as well for more economy, but YMMV because of the different powders and loads used and you may not find a good one so do NOT buy bulk until you do.
By the cheap **** to blow off if that urge to run a mag dump comes along, use the good stuff wisely!
Rastoff
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Any round out of a .308 will fly more than a mile. It's not the distance, it's how well it travels through the air.
In the immortal words of Yoda, "Mmmm, you will be." If you're not working on putting two rounds as close together as possible, you won't hit jack at distances like 800 yards or more. Everything counts at those ranges. Breathing, trigger control, hold control, natural point of aim, etc.
What you need is to match the bullet and velocity with the twist rate of the barrel. Sure, the 168gn HPBT is generally good with the 1:10 twist rate. However, every barrel is different. You have to do some experimenting to find the right one for your gun.
First get the scope close to the center of a 100 yard target. Perfect zero isn't important at this time. Always aim at the center. Fire at least 3 rounds. See how tight the group is. Then change bullet weights. Do it again and see how tight the group is. If it's smaller, then this bullet is better. Get another bullet weight, repeat. Continue this process until you find the round that gives the tightest group at 100 yards.
As do I, but until you find the right weight and velocity, you're spinning your wheels.
Yes, it's a battle rifle, but 800 yards is not shot the same as 50 yards. Remember, a 1" group at 100 yards translates to larger than 8" at 800 yards. 2" will be bigger than 18" at 800. Thus, if you're not shooting groups smaller than 1" at 100, you'll miss a lot at 800.
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