Home defense

[REM 3200]

Bats are for..... discipline in Imperial Japanese Navy enlisted flight school.

Maybe being a Kamikaze was the easy way out.

 

[cmort666]

Maybe being a Kamikaze was the easy way out.

A lot of the pilots were rookies for whom there were no conventional planes. They'd already been beaten up.

Of course when they even ran out of suicide PLANES, unassigned pilots ended up in suicide SUBMARINES.

 

[TexasArmed]

i do own a 12 gauge shotgun with buckshot in it, but the guns i keep close on me day and night at home is my Glock 30 (Semi 45 cal) my 44 Special CA Bulldog and a 38 Smith & Wesson. It is
more convenient and easier for me to handle the handgun inside
a small apartment than to pull out a Shotgun with a longer barrel.
As for the noise, i will worry about that after something happens.
If they are kicking down the door the last thing on my mind is the loud noise shooting will cause.

 

[JCFindley]

At times men trained and skilled in violence is the only rational answer.

Oh, I had been asleep an hour last night and my wife woke me up stating someone was outside the door or at least a very loud bang. Apparently I will grab whatever is on my nightstand which is usually a 686 but was an M&P 45 last night.

No one was there when I opened the door with the 45 in my right and a Streamlight strobe in my left. It is rare for me to actually grab the nightstand gun and found it interesting that it happened after typing in this thread earlier in the evening.

 

[wood714]

All my guns are locked up in the safe's except for a Winchester 1200 that's mounted to my bed, a Glock 27 and Ruger LCP. One of the pistols is on me at all times. The other stays on the night stand.

My house is kid free.

 

[wbraswell]

I have a Model 13 4" in the nightstand, and a DS Special 8 shot Ithaca 37 within 3 feet of the bedroom door. I also have a PR24 leaning against the headboard. Hmmm, I have a Model 60 in another room, a Grendal P10 in another, a BHP in the truck....

 

[Arik]

My carry gun. It works just as well in a holster or on a stand

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[Valmet]

My primary HD gun has been a Rem 870 Police Mag for years loaded with Winchester 00 Buck. In addition to the 870 I keep a Glock 21 in my nightstand equipped with a streamlight and loaded with Rem GS 185-gr+P JHPs (and several mags). I have several ARs but I've always liked a shotgun for HD myself.

 

[Whitwabit]

First line of defense is my 75 pound German Shepherd Dog if they were to get by her my S&W 40 Compact with 15 round magazine in it would be the final line if they were to get that far ..

When I lived in an apartment when I first got married I relied on Bear Spray because the chance of hitting a neighbor was too high !!

 

[crazyphil]

Years ago a lady student told me she was relaxing in her lounger after
dinner when there was a big bang. A guy kicked the front door open
and came into the living room. She had here "little .44" right there,
grabbed it and shot. Hit him in the foot. She said he was limping around
in jail. Thanked me for telling her to always be prepared. Thus, my
slogan "In Omnia Paratus". Be prepared for all things.

 

[kbm6893]

Also a good home defense gun would be something with a silencer on it. That is if you care anything about your hearing. I would not want to or use my 357 magnum inside my home.

I was in a room when a 12 gauge went off. Obscenely loud. Deaf for hours.

But people have been using them for a long time and they get through it. My .357 is loaded with .38. Heard one of those to off when the cop next to me had a negligent discharge. It was a loud pop. Ears were ringing but I was still able to hear. They rang for maybe 10-15 minutes.

 

[jimmyj]

House is wired with high explosives with fire switch on bed headboard.
As soon as BG makes entre in the house, a finger push on the fire switch button, the entire house and surrounding area goes up in a big ball of fire. Surprising all the houses in the neighborhood are now vacant as the residents have abandoned their homes and moved away?

 

[Arik]

I was in a room when a 12 gauge went off. Obscenely loud. Deaf for hours.

But people have been using them for a long time and they get through it. My .357 is loaded with .38. Heard one of those to off when the cop next to me had a negligent discharge. It was a loud pop. Ears were ringing but I was still able to hear. They rang for maybe 10-15 minutes.

I shot one off in a doundpriofed enclosed space.it was far from pleasant but all I had was ringing for a few min. Also tried 38spl, 357, 9mm, 7.62x39, 50AE and 7.62x54. Not on the same day. The 7.62x54 was the worst. It was sharper and more intense. Aside from the ringing I had a slight uncomfortable feeling in my ears. Not exectly painful but not pleasant. It went away in 15 min or so. Never lost hearing though

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[P-229]

Short barrel pump shotgun makes an ideal HD weapon even loaded with birdshot.

A shotgun loaded with 00 buck or slugs is OK if you're able to remain in a single location. A long gun is a very poor choice if you have to move around a home; e.g., checking on safety of kids. A bad guy hiding behind a wall can easily take a long gun, especially if he knows what he's doing, from a home owner. I would not recommend bird shot for saving one's life. Go with best for intended job.

 

[P-229]

A 1911A1. It's easy to operate in darkness and easy to reload. But I have no loaded guns in my home. They're all locked inside of my safe.

It's a very good idea to have a cell phone handy. Call 911 immediately upon fearing a bad guy is in your home. The dispatcher will stay on the line with you until cops are on scene. Describe yourself to the dispatcher. She'll relay that info to cops so they'll know that you're not the bad guy. When she tells you cops are on scene -AND THIS IS CRUCIAL- unload your gun and place it in plain sight. Always assure that arriving cops can see that your hands are empty. Cops won't know who you really are until they verify your identity.

 

[Muss Muggins]

I shot one off in a doundpriofed enclosed space.it was far from pleasant but all I had was ringing for a few min. Also tried 38spl, 357, 9mm, 7.62x39, 50AE and 7.62x54. Not on the same day. The 7.62x54 was the worst. It was sharper and more intense. Aside from the ringing I had a slight uncomfortable feeling in my ears. Not exectly painful but not pleasant. It went away in 15 min or so. Never lost hearing though

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I've had tinnitus for years due to unavoidable gunfire and other loud noises with inadequate hearing protection. No hearing loss to speak of, but the constant ringing/buzzing is irritating. At times I forget it's there, but at other times it's like a cloud of locusts buzzing around . . .

 

[P-229]

All my guns are locked up in the safe's except for a Winchester 1200 that's mounted to my bed, a Glock 27 and Ruger LCP. One of the pistols is on me at all times. The other stays on the night stand.

My house is kid free.

What's your plan should a bad guy break into your bedroom while you're in the living room? Now he has two guns and you have one.

That's the primary reason I have no loaded guns in my home. I'm not going to give a bad guy my gun that he can use on me. If I felt that I needed a gun, I'd keep it on my nightstand while asleep. It'd go right back in my gun safe after awaking. I never walk around my home with a gun on me.

 

[P-229]

I had an elderly lady come to the door and then try to get past me.

I just stood there and she was too old and weak to push by.

Then she asked for someone I'd never heard of.

Turns out she had Alzheimer's and thought it was her house.

Her daughter showed up a few minutes later and picked her up.

You have to read people and decide if they are a threat -- and cut them a little slack if they are not.

Great post, Cal.

 

[P-229]

Wow, just wow. Defend yourselves, wife, kids, dogs and cats, car, house whatever. Is that so confusing, why is it scary to some people? Shotgun, handgun, knife or club use anything that works. The reason we fight for our own is if we back down the intruder will take every thing we hold dear, worked hard for, and things we will never have again. Safety, courage, sanity, guts comfort all gone; fear and hate, anger and insecurity will be with you every night And day. Feeling like a coward, helpless and defenseless is all that is left. Get a grip. I have stood my ground and I feel solid within. Not hollowed out by anyone who aimed to hurt me or rob me. As for me and my household, I will defend it and sleep in comfot.

I do agree with most of what you've posted, that we as Americans should not have to remain passive while criminals operate on an aggressive plane. Government has sissified Americans with the intent to force us to rely upon government to take care of us. Hence, government wants to be interpreted as the omniscient protector of us, and that only government is capable of protecting us. Only a fool would buy that reasoning.

California does have the castle doctrine. Also, CA does accord its citizens the right of self defense. If reasonable fear of your life of the life of another exists, deadly force is appropriate. Not too bad for an extremely liberal state that hates guns, which means it probably hates me.

My advice to you, Mehutch, is to determine you state's law regarding protecting personal property. I'm going that it's not legal to use deadly force in your state to protect your property including pets.

 

[P-229]

I sort of object to the poll on the principle of "one size does not fit all". An ideal weapon for an apartment dweller isn't the same as one for a suburban resident, or one for somebody that lives out in the sticks and hollers. Even the size of your house's rooms can make a difference between whether you select birdshot or buck.

I also disagree with the pump-action. It's easy to jam one up with a short-stroke--even skilled 3-gun competitors do so with great frequency, as often as once per match. Whereas todays semiautomatics are quite reliable.

I'd drop the bird shot idea. But then again, I don't like long guns inside of a home. If you have to move around to check on family members, a bad guy hiding behind a wall will take it if he knows what he's doing. The sad reality is a lot of bad guys know how to be bad guys.

Go with 00 buck or slugs. If a bad guy wants to kill you, use the best equipment for saving your life. The bad guy won't be a bird. He'll be a bad guy.

A handgun held close to your body is a better idea. And don't do the Miami Vice thing and hold it at arms' length in front of you. That's an invitation for a bad guy to take it.

Tennessee v. Gardner opined that because of the likelihood of a violent confrontation with a homeowner, deadly force is appropriate for residential burglars. If a bad guy knows a house is occupied and enters it, it's probably safe to assume he's not bringing you a pizza. He's assuredly has made up his mind to harm residents if he thinks it's necessary to accomplish his criminal intent.