Maybe being a Kamikaze was the easy way out.
I thought Kamikaze was a drink that I used to imbibe. Huh. I just learned something new.
Home defense
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I thought Kamikaze was a drink that I used to imbibe. Huh. I just learned something new.
JCFindley
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I have a similar setup. I suppose it is possible for someone to break into my bedroom while I am in the livingroom. It would require a ladder mind you and I would hear someone on the floor of the room directly above the living room. If I heard someone in the room above me and my wife was next to me I would take the loaded gun in the living room and simply walk out the front door while I dial 911.
A gun in the safe might as well be a gun I don't own at the moment. If your guns are for hunting then a safe is not a bad place. If you have kids in the house then a safe is a great place for them. Keeping them in a safe so a bad guy doesn't get them first if he or she breaks into my upstairs bedroom first while I am awake is not a reason mine will ever be in a safe.
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JCFindley
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This varies widely from state to state. In general, the Tennessee ruling will hold true in most southern states, many midwestern states and western states that don't touch the Pacific Ocean. Some states still require retreat or an attempt to retreat before using deadly force even in your own home.
Florida has both the castle doctrine and is a stand your ground state. If someone has forced their way into your house it is presumed they are a threat to you. Case law has gone so far as to clarify that opening and unlocked door or window to get in is in fact using force to enter. Walking through an unlocked door is not.
SwflG17Guy
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I have 2 dobermans and they will alert me to any disturbance. I have my Glock G17 under the pillow on the other side of the bed and a shield .45 in the nightstand.
I am deaf in the left ear and also have tinnitus so if I am laying on my right side I hear nothing, which is most of the time, so I may be a little paranoid.
I am deaf in the left ear and also have tinnitus so if I am laying on my right side I hear nothing, which is most of the time, so I may be a little paranoid.
Hi JC,
Tennessee v. Gardner was a US Supreme Court case. However, I do agree that states can make more restrictive law. But a conviction contrary to Gardner would certainly be overturned on appeal.
Every law enforcement agency has a shooting policy. The agency that employed me had a very liberal shooting policy: it if were legal and a cop could live with his action, he was good to shoot. And we shot dangerous fleeing felons, in their backs if necessary. They were all good shootings.
Self defense is personal and subjective. What works for one might be all wrong for another.
Our dog is our primary early warning defense.
I don't keep a gun inside of my home for two primary reasons: I live in a very, very safe city, and I'm usually gone most of the day, especially during summer. While I can legally carry a handgun anywhere I choose, I very, very rarely do. I will take a handgun with me if I absolutely cannot avoid going into LA. The reality is I cannot tell you the last time I've had a handgun on my person.
However, with these firgging idiots sniping cops, I might start carrying my P-229. Were I to see a dirtbag preparing to snipe a cop, I'd want to prevent it. The only way I could prevent it would be if I were armed.
Our dog is our primary early warning defense.
I don't keep a gun inside of my home for two primary reasons: I live in a very, very safe city, and I'm usually gone most of the day, especially during summer. While I can legally carry a handgun anywhere I choose, I very, very rarely do. I will take a handgun with me if I absolutely cannot avoid going into LA. The reality is I cannot tell you the last time I've had a handgun on my person.
However, with these firgging idiots sniping cops, I might start carrying my P-229. Were I to see a dirtbag preparing to snipe a cop, I'd want to prevent it. The only way I could prevent it would be if I were armed.
kbm6893
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S&W 5903 is my bump in the night gun. And the only way I fire it is if life is in jeopardy, not my tv. If I can hunker down with the wife and kids in one room and call the cop I will. Even a justified shooting will cost thousands in legal bills, not to mention losing a civil suit, which is a very real possibility once the jury sees the 8th grade picture of the 30 year old junkie who was "just turning his life around".
My family is threatened then I have no choice. While I don't like the idea of taking stuff I have worked for, it isn't worth the headache. For me, I would call 911, tell the cops what's up, and then loudly say "I've called the police and I have a gun". Now it's on tape and will help if it ever goes to trial. Jury will see I tried to avoid it.
What I wouldn't do is advertise needing two body bags on a public Internet forum. Imagine the prosecutor asking you to read that out loud to the jury.
My family is threatened then I have no choice. While I don't like the idea of taking stuff I have worked for, it isn't worth the headache. For me, I would call 911, tell the cops what's up, and then loudly say "I've called the police and I have a gun". Now it's on tape and will help if it ever goes to trial. Jury will see I tried to avoid it.
What I wouldn't do is advertise needing two body bags on a public Internet forum. Imagine the prosecutor asking you to read that out loud to the jury.
Arik
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cmort666
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This guy lived in a "very, very safe city"...
Connecticut Home Invasion Murders
The "safest" place on earth can become VERY dangerous in an instant. It only takes one... or two, people who want to make it so.
OP
I live in an area that is very safe. No real crime except for the criminally stupid. I leave the keys in my trucks, doors unlocked most of the time. But, keep guns and valuables in safes. Except for the guns that are "strategic" Nothing is impossible, meth heads are everywhere now days. Plus, theree is nothing to stop some smart guy(s) from saying hey lets go rob some sleepy little town where nothing happens and they still don't lock stuff up. Nothing wrong with being casual, but, be prepared for the possibilities. 99% of the people who get robbed or harmed don't think they are going to be robbed or harmed when it happens. Steal my truck and it is a long ways to anywhere around here, go on my property and smile for the cameras. Screw with me in person at your own risk.
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You don't carry because you believe it's unlikely you'll need to defend yourself with a gun, but are now considering carrying because you may need to take out a sniper?
Arik
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I'm still confused on the part where he doesn't keep his gun inside his home. Either there are some words missing to make sense or the gun is stored somewhere else?!?!?! [emoji15] [emoji15]
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Man, you're tellin' my story. Never goes away, like you say, but sometimes I just forget it....but it always comes back. And it hasn't got any "lesser".
keith44spl
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It kinda makes one think here.....If'n I hear a door being kicked in,
Probable the 870 with number one buck.
If it's just a bump in the nite, maybe the Gov't model.
Since I live on the rural route, if it's outside, probably the M1A Scout.
Your needs may vary in your location.
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Probable the 870 with number one buck.
If it's just a bump in the nite, maybe the Gov't model.
Since I live on the rural route, if it's outside, probably the M1A Scout.
Your needs may vary in your location.
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Yep, you're following me. I've lived in a safe area for many years, decades actually, and never had a need to carry. And I'm not paranoid. I know that 99.9% (US DOJ crime stats) of people in America have no desire to kill me. But if you see it differently, carry what you think you're gonna need. There are no street gangs where I live. The sheriff is all over bad guys coming in to our city.
the .1% of killers generally congregate in recognized geographical locations. Hence, I don't go into areas bangers claim. They've claimed it, they can have it.
Times are changing. Black Panthers have advocated coming into safe suburbs to kill cops. Now that's a huge change. Hence, they're forcing me to adapt to their aggressive actions.
For some reason you thought it cute to write that, "...you may need to take out a sniper," which is inflammatory and provoking of an appropriate response. Trust me, it does not make you a trained killer. However, because it's the way I roll, I'll let it slide. Believe me, I'd know what he hell I'd be doing. If you know tactical advantages (if you did, you probably wouldn't have posted your replay) you'd of recognized the essence of my post. Thanks to taxpayers including you, I could give you and extensive tutoring on defensive handgun tactics. But I'm ain't gonna accommodate you.
Gun magazines are entertainment. Don't read 'em. They'll wrap your mind with BS that's more harm than good.
steelslaver,
Ask the chief of sheriff of the city or area in which you live for latest crime stats. That'll give you an idea of the safety of your abode.
If you live in a safe community, it's very difficult for bad guys to breach because the second suspicious persons are spotted, half the neighborhood is dialing 911. And your cops are assuredly pretty darn good at spotting people who are suspicious.
Many years ago, I lived in the outlying area of a city that had a lot of criminal activity. But our area had very little. One day I spotted a very bad dude walking on the sidewalk in front of our house. There was another cop who lived a few doors away. I immediately confronted the dude, who was easy to ID by his prison tats. He was joint buffed and losing it. While he was slightly taller than me, I got right in his face. He appeared to be under the influence of a controlled substance. He immediately tried to become the aggressor and take control by intimidation. It didn't work for him. He knew something was up because I wasn't intimidated. I asked him what the eff he was doing in my neighborhood. He copped a joint 'tude that probably worked well on people who were afraid of him. He told me that he was on his way to a nearby apartment complex, probably to score more heroin. I told him that I knew who he was and that he was on parole. One phone call and he'd be kicking heroin in the joint. I told him that he knew who I was although I never ID'd myself to him. He knew I was an off-duty cop. He became very passive with, "Yes sir, and no sir," answers. I told him that if I ever again saw him in my neighborhood, he was probably going to jail and possibly back to the joint on a violation. If I had had the time, I'd of called the local cops for a DRE to put him down (under the influence). But I was jammed for time. He did get the message. I never saw him again.
I did not have a gun with me.
Our eldest kid was about 7 at that time. Shortly thereafter, we moved to a much safer area. The safety and security of my kids was always supreme.
I do have empathy for people who cannot live in very safe cities/communities. Such people must be accorded ability to do what they have to do to survive. If that means carrying a concealed handgun, governmental entities ought to encourage them to do so. Denying them the right of self-defense is immoral and indicative of a tyrannical government.
The very valuable advantage I have is a career of identifying and interacting with very bad guys. It's extremely useful in avoiding trouble.
Locked in my gun safe.
Arik
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Going to get popcorn
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