Moonman
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Your Opinions please, I'm leaning to NO SAFETY VERSION.
Shield 45 EDC Safety model or NO SAFETY?
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kannonvaggon
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Whichever YOU like.
I happen to like a thumb safety and use it. Train with it, carry with it....
BUT you could also have a pistol with a TS and just not use it if you so desire. I've never heard of one operating itself. If you are left handed you should note the TS is not ambidextrous on this pistol that I can tell.
I happen to like a thumb safety and use it. Train with it, carry with it....
BUT you could also have a pistol with a TS and just not use it if you so desire. I've never heard of one operating itself. If you are left handed you should note the TS is not ambidextrous on this pistol that I can tell.
I had a shield in 9mm with safety and traded it in for a non safety one. IMO it is pointless carry a gun with the safety on, don't have a shield 45 yet but looking to buy without the thumb safety, also looks cleaner.
ggibson511960
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Safety Prevalence
My LGS clerk says 45 Shields with a TS are in high demand and hard to find in the supply chain, vs. non-TS models that are plentiful and cheap, $384 + tax being their price when they have them. Just one anecdotal qualitative data point. S&W would never reveal but it would be interesting to know the production numbers of TS and non-TS Shields.
My LGS clerk says 45 Shields with a TS are in high demand and hard to find in the supply chain, vs. non-TS models that are plentiful and cheap, $384 + tax being their price when they have them. Just one anecdotal qualitative data point. S&W would never reveal but it would be interesting to know the production numbers of TS and non-TS Shields.
Boomer...
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Likewise as others stated, thumb safety for me. All my semi-autos are so-equipped, thus consistency wins. My only "pistol" not equipped with safety is pocket carry Ruger LCP (in DeSantis Nemesis) but that's DAO with long trigger pull.
gunny4053
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My Shield 9 had a safety, and it worked fine. My Shield .45 doesn't have the thumb safety for two reasons. First, they didn't have any with the safety when I bought mine. Second, I tried one with the safety when they finally got one in, just didn't care for it. It's a personal thing for most.
alphabrace
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So if you train and carry already with a TS, why would you not get one so equipped? Consistency is a good thing.
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Dave Nowlin
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Both my 1911s have a thumb safety as does my Sig 938 so the manual of arms is consistent. I also pocket carry without a holster so I prefer the TS. No matter whose pocket carry holster you use it adds to the overall thickness and it may come out with the gun when you draw. So I prefer to pocket carry without a holster
PSC617
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Safety yes...however never really use it other than an additional feature when not in use. I'd rather have than not -- and use when needed. Never use it otherwise and probably wouldn't miss it that much if removed.
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fallhunter
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Absolutely NO safety. I even put some epoxy on the trigger to keep that safety off.
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msjdgman
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Before I got into the M&P's, I was strictly a 1911 guy. So I have trained extensively for using a thumb safety. So I have the TS on my M&P carry guns. You do have to train for the TS use so that it is muscle memory, otherwise I believe the TS can be a liability in a high stress SD situation.
Bill Bates
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I prefer my defense gun have no safety. I own both a 9mm and .45acp Shields with safeties...I couldn't wait for no safety models either.
Honestly I find the safety on the Shield is a non-issue. It is small and very positive on and off. I leave my Shields safeties off. I've never bumped them on by accident. To move them to safe takes avery deliberate action on the part of the shooter.
So I say buy what you can find at the best price. If your a safety person get one with the safety. If your a no safety person buy which ever you can find cheaper.
Honestly I find the safety on the Shield is a non-issue. It is small and very positive on and off. I leave my Shields safeties off. I've never bumped them on by accident. To move them to safe takes avery deliberate action on the part of the shooter.
So I say buy what you can find at the best price. If your a safety person get one with the safety. If your a no safety person buy which ever you can find cheaper.
ggibson511960
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Cocked but not Locked!
It's a free country, and it's your gun, but that piece is dangerous without a trigger safety, whether it has a TS or not. A striker fired M&P is essentially a single action pistol, albeit with a sloppy, springy pull and a striker plunger safety, both of which work to prevent the pistol from firing unless you deliberately pull the trigger. Would you carry a cocked S&W revolver? Why not pull out that pesky striker plunger safety and smooth up the single action pull? Just don't drop it.
Hope you don't touch it off when you don't mean to. I'm sure you're safe with your M&P, whatever you do with it, but I don't think you'll get much support for deactivating your trigger safety, and a range officer would take a dim view. The safe action trigger is one of the features that made Glocks and S&W Sigma/M&P so popular, safe, and easy to use. Point and pull in a safe platform when the social situation goes to pot.
It's a free country, and it's your gun, but that piece is dangerous without a trigger safety, whether it has a TS or not. A striker fired M&P is essentially a single action pistol, albeit with a sloppy, springy pull and a striker plunger safety, both of which work to prevent the pistol from firing unless you deliberately pull the trigger. Would you carry a cocked S&W revolver? Why not pull out that pesky striker plunger safety and smooth up the single action pull? Just don't drop it.
Hope you don't touch it off when you don't mean to. I'm sure you're safe with your M&P, whatever you do with it, but I don't think you'll get much support for deactivating your trigger safety, and a range officer would take a dim view. The safe action trigger is one of the features that made Glocks and S&W Sigma/M&P so popular, safe, and easy to use. Point and pull in a safe platform when the social situation goes to pot.
The Shield safety is non obstrusive, easy enough to ignore or use. Makes no difference.
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'Nuff said.
