Jpoint for my Shield

[Steved13]

I just received the Jpoint I ordered for my PC Shield.


I sent the Slide for my shield o Galloway Precision to have it milled, for the Jpoint.

A few pics.



It's a circle dot, nice small dot for fine work, and a large circle for quick acquisition...I hope anyway.





I bought a backup Shield so I wouldn't be without one while my slide is being milled. It's just sitting on top, I'm going to try it with some 2 sided tape.



The milling on the shield can go deep enough that regular sights will co-witness, with this sight. That's what several shops tell me, we'll see.

 

[Zebra War Wagon]

Is this contraption going to be CCW'ed? Looks like it would be uncomfortable and not to practical to carry? Maybe on a range gun??

 

[Steved13]

Is this contraption going to be CCW'ed? Looks like it would be uncomfortable and not to practical to carry? Maybe on a range gun??

It will be carried, I won't ever ask you to carry it so not a problem.

If you think about it and check it out for yourself, you'll see that you have plenty of room in that area, it's the grip area that is always the problem.

Either way I have checked it out and it will be fine for me.

I guess, cars, and phones, and computers, and just about everything else was a contraption once upon a time, at least until they weren't.

Remember, When someone rains on your parade, watch the parade. not the rain.

 

[palmettostate1]

Reminds me of a 1985 Honda with a $2000 stereo, $3000 rims, a lawnmower muffler, a fin made of plywood and neon lights underneath.

On a USPSA pistol..yes, but way too much for a $350 sub-compact carry pistol.

To each his own, rock on brother.

 

[Steved13]

Reminds me of a 1985 Honda with a $2000 stereo, $3000 rims, a lawnmower muffler, a fin made of plywood and neon lights underneath.

On a USPSA pistol..yes, but way too much for a $350 sub-compact carry pistol.

To each his own, rock on brother.

LOL, this reminds me of the guy who puts down somebody else's new Benz because it's such a waste of money, while he gets into his busted down 1985 honda.

But it's a free coutry, so speak your mind whether you should or not. Roll by brother.

 

[BC38]

Seems like there's a lot of unnecessary rudeness going on in this thread.

If a reflex sight is what you want on your CCW, more power to you.

In all honesty though, you have to admit it is somewhat unusual to take a pistol specifically designed to be as compact as possible - for concealment - and add accessories that increase its size so much.

Not saying there is anything wrong with it - just that it is kinda counter to the purpose the shield was specifically designed for.

 

[Steved13]

Seems like there's a lot of unnecessary rudeness going on in this thread.

If a reflex sight is what you want on your CCW, more power to you.

In all honesty though, you have to admit it is somewhat unusual to take a pistol specifically designed to be as compact as possible - for concealment - and add accessories that increase its size so much.

Not saying there is anything wrong with it - just that it is kinda counter to the purpose the shield was specifically designed for.

I get your point and it's a good point, but if you haven't tried it you really have no idea, how it is to carry, and plenty of people who have carried it or similar have had no issues.

Since the people who "specifically designed" the shield offer it with a laser that adds to it's size, I'm not sure your point is 100% correct. Carry guns are always about trade offs, size for capacity, size for comfort and concealability. To say the Shield was "specifically designed to be as compact as possible" really is not true. It could be designed more compact quite easily...change the capacity to 6 rounds and it becomes much more compact.

Like I said I get your point, I'm putting a reflex sight on a sub compact gun...and while it's not for everyone, I won't have the only one in existence either. I found 4 or 5 shops that have done enough of them to advertise the service.

 

[BC38]

OK. So do they offer a holster to fit it too? Or are you planning something equally custom? Kydex maybe?

 

[Steved13]

OK. So do they offer a holster to fit it too? Or are you planning something equally custom? Kydex maybe?

I'm going to modify my Alien Gear. I think just heat up the Kydex and form it around the sight.

 

[dcsamps]

Thanks for sharing the pictures. Interesting idea. That sight cost almost as much as the shield. Would make a cool range gun. At what distances do you plan on engaging your target? Many self defense shootings are at such close distances, that a red dot sight does not seem practical on a subcompact carry gun. But like I said, really cool for a range gun, especially considering the money you're investing in it.

 

[BC38]

Just curious, but what are you using to carry it now? Or have you even carried it with the reflex sight yet?

 

[Shield9mm]

Don't get offended by other comments, you showed your gun project on a open forum so people are entitled to comment either like or not, don't take it personal. IMO I think is not practical on carry gun neither necessary, but it is your gun and your money so you can do whatever you like if you are satisfied with the result and fulfill your needs that's what really matters.


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[V0OBWxZS16]

Have you used the JPoint with that reticle before? I personally didn't care for the EOtech dot-in-circle reticle and the window of a JPoint is much smaller.

Good luck. I'm interested to see pictures when it's done.

You are going to shoot Open once it's done, right?

 

[CB3]

Done correctly (in this photo, suppressor height sights to cowitness through the RDS are not yet installed) an RDS will enhance a pistol for both speed and acccuracy for longer shots where sights are used. Upgrading a small cc gun to extend and improve its capabilities, especially when longer, deliberate shots are required, makes perfect sense to me.

Take any good kydex holster and simply cut some material to accommodate the RDS, especially if carried AIWB.

In this configuration, my Shield would match my EDC FS M&P for sight consistency.

Expensive? Yep. Worth it? Yep, for me. EDC? Absolutely, with the right set up.

 

[Steved13]

Just curious, but what are you using to carry it now? Or have you even carried it with the reflex sight yet?

The thread started with I have sent the Slide for my Shield out to be milled. So I have not carried it yet.

I have carried this just to get an idea:



I had issues with the length and my shirt tucking itself behind the grip constantly, but never even noticed the RMR (and the RMR is quite a bit larger. You could tape a C battery and get the idea...for me, that area is not an issue.

 

[Steved13]

Don't get offended by other comments, you showed your gun project on a open forum so people are entitled to comment either like or not, don't take it personal. IMO I think is not practical on carry gun neither necessary, but it is your gun and your money so you can do whatever you like if you are satisfied with the result and fulfill your needs that's what really matters.


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It would be very difficult for someone I have never met to offend me.

I am fully aware that I showed my gun project on an open forum and that everyone has a right to comment...I also have the right to reply to those comments, and pointed out the flaws in their thinking.

I don't think any of the nay sayers have ever tried carrying a gun with a Reflex sight, many I know from their comments, have never shot one, and most if they have any experience it is very limited.

You yourself in another thread commented about a reflex sight not being feasible on a smaller frame. The number 1 sighting advantage to a longer frame probably is the increased sight radius. Since a reflex sight takes sight radius out of the equation, that would be 1 point for a smaller frame.

I thought gun people might find something on the newer side interesting, and have a somewhat open mind. But I guess many would just rather complain about how they don't like the windows on the M2.0, or how great Apex triggers are. Don't hget me wrong I enjoy reading those discussions also, but do you really want to stifle the introduction of something different.

The forum belongs to all of you, if you just want to bash others it will be what you make it. If you open your mind and try considering different ideas, it will also be what you make it.

Biggest thing though, on a forum where people come for information, before anyone criticizes it is nice to state how little you know about the subject...or how much you know.

So far the few folks I have spoken with that have experience with this type of speak positively...and the nay sayers keep proving they have no idea what they are talking about.

Like my friend Jimmy's grandmother always said "if they talking about you, they're leaving someone else alone"

I guess bottom line...haters gotta hate.


One other thing, I don't think you'll find anywhere, where I have recommended this for anyone else...how could I I don't even know any of you....seems to make sense, no?

 

[Steved13]

Thanks for sharing the pictures. Interesting idea. That sight cost almost as much as the shield. Would make a cool range gun. At what distances do you plan on engaging your target? Many self defense shootings are at such close distances, that a red dot sight does not seem practical on a subcompact carry gun. But like I said, really cool for a range gun, especially considering the money you're investing in it.

hmm, the sight costs about half of what a PC Shield costs, so not what I would call almost as much. Just FYI. It's not really about a couple of hundred dollars. I'm not rich, but this is my hobby, It's at least as much about fun and enjoyment, as it is self defense.

Yup every training class and guy on the internet tells us all that most defensive shootings are at close distances...yet somehow, people leave the sights on their guns, buy new and improved sights, flashlights and even lasers are OK now. None of that makes any case for a red dot to be impractical. Unless you think having sights at all is impractical?

It adds size, and cost, that is it for the downside.

 

[BC38]

OK, so if you haven't carried it (and Iknew you hadn't) making snarky comments at others because THEY haven't tried it either seems a little... odd - don't you think?

Going on an internet forum, asking for people's opinions, and then proceeding to tell every one who disagrees with your opinion why they are wrong is pointless, IMO. It is a form of trolling.

If you already know the only answer you will accept, what it the point of asking the question? If you really want people's opinion, why are you telling them they are wrong?

Are you only looking for opinions that match yours? Looking for an ego stroke?

OK, your idea is the most innovative thing I have seen in God knows how long, and we all should do the same. In fact, we're all dolts for not thinking of it first. All better now?

Sorry if this seems a little harsh, but people asking a question and then arguing with every answer that isn't what they want to hear is a pet peeve of mine. Not saying I haven't ever been guilty of it myself, but it still gets me kinda cranked up....

 

[Steved13]

OK, so if you haven't carried it (and Iknew you hadn't) making snarky comments at others because THEY haven't tried it either seems a little... odd - don't you think?

No, you would be totally wrong. I don't need to have carried it to do it. But if someone else wants to piss all over someone else's idea they should have some knowledge and experience to be taken seriously. And if they post Rudely (your word) they should expect comments in return.

Going on an internet forum, asking for people's opinions, and then proceeding to tell every one who disagrees with your opinion why they are wrong is pointless, IMO. It is a form of trolling.

If you already know the only answer you will accept, what it the point of asking the question? If you really want people's opinion, why are you telling them they are wrong?

Are you only looking for opinions that match yours? Looking for an ego stroke?

Again you are wrong. I never asked for anyone's opinion nor any questions. I posted some pics of my new reflex sight, and my plans for it.

OK, your idea is the most innovative thing I have seen in God knows how long, and we all should do the same. In fact, we're all dolts for not thinking of it first. All better now?

Wrong again, I never said anyone else should do it, I thought I made that clear previously, but you would have to know what was posted to know that. All I did was post some pics, that I thought others on a gun forum would find interesting. As some have.

Sorry if this seems a little harsh, but people asking a question and then arguing with every answer that isn't what they want to hear is a pet peeve of mine. Not saying I haven't ever been guilty of it myself, but it still gets me kinda cranked up....

Again never asked any questions. And I doubt you are the least bit sorry...and if anything you said was anywhere near the truth I might agree with your assessment, and I would owe the forum an apology...but since what you have said has no basis in reality...I'm not the one who owes anyone an apology.

Please feel free to quote a post by me in this thread, where I asked a question about doing this, or asked for opinions. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when you feel the need to voice an unsolicited opinion in a rude (your word) manner, you shouldn't feel that it wil just be ok.

You should read the original post again, and then the rest of the thread. It should be pretty obvious how wrong you are and foolish for making such a post, without at least reading the original post and having some idea of what you are talking about.

I posted some pics of my new sight, and that I have sent my slide out to have it milled for the sight. This is a gun forum, and red dots milled onto pistols, is kind of a gun guy/gal thing. Not for everyone, but I though some folks on a gun forum might find it interesting. Some have found it interesting, I don't understand the **** from the others.

 

[BC38]

OK, guess I misread your intentions. My bad. Guess I'm wrong too. My apologies. Carry on.