Some help with M&P45.

[cjcutter1]

I have the opportunity to pick up a slightly used fullsize 45 I have shot a M&P 9 when they first came out and as I recall I liked the feel of the gun. This 45 comes with three mags and night sights it must be a configuration that Smith offers. I own a Ruger P-95 my first semi auto pistol and five Glocks yes I know I'm in Smith territory here but I carry and like my Glocks period. I wanted some feedback on the M&P and possible comparison to the Glock three of mine are 45's. 36,30,41. Not sure if making a change in platforms is a great idea but I'm pretty interested in the M&P 45. Thanks feedback much appreciated.

 

[Ballistic147]

I really like the M&P's however I'm not a Glock fan. Not that Glocks are bad, they are very reliable and very good guns but they just don't fit me like the M&P's do. I definitely shoot the M&P's better. Give it a try. You just might like it.

 

[Rastoff]

The M&P will not point like the Glock. It will take some adjustment to get used to.

 

[mattallamerican]

if the price was right I might bite only 10 shots vs 13 for a glock or 12 for a hkusp they don't detail strip as easy as a glock but what does I believe it is also weighs more

 

[Just another 22 shooter]

If you liked the way the M&P9 shot and fit in your hand, you'll like the 45.

 

[B0308]

Hi CJ,

I was invested in Glock .45s (21s & 30s) way before the current M&P .45s came out. Plus about every other respectable .45, a real Springfield Armory 1911, numerous customized Colt 1911A1's, a Colt Officer's model, some commercial Springfield Custom production 1911A1s, a couple of Kimbers (5" and a small one), a W.German Sig220 and an original Detonic's Combat special. All except the small Kimber (a Covert Combat or something like that) functioned well. Also all the G21s and 30s had grip reductions by Robar.

Having said all that, the best out of the box .45 I've owned was the current production M&P .45's, all in the now discontinued "mid-size" 4" barrel. I went with that because it was it was a virtual size match to the G19, but an "upgrade" in caliber. All shot great, accurate and reliable function wise. Trigger break and reset, not so much, but an Apex duty carry kit fixed that. Not a fan of three dot sights, so I black them out and on two, have installed the 10-8 Performance "U" rear sight, on one I had L&M Precison mill the slide and install a Trijicon RMR6. Which might be one of the ultimate solutions to sighting, YMMV. All can mount a Surefire X300U light with a DG switch as needed.

I still carry the G30 at times, like shooting the custom 1911s (which I carry now and then) & G21s, but the M&P is my EDC and I've never had an accuracy or reliability issue with them with quality practice (the only kind I shoot) or duty ammo.

Good luck with your choices.

 

[standerson]

As someone said, it will not point like a Glock. I have a full size M&P .45. When I got it the trigger pull was right at 9 pounds. I put the Apex trigger in it and dropped it to 5.5 - 6 pounds. I recently picked up a .45c LEO trade in that had the Apex trigger in it. The trigger pull is about 4.5 -5 pounds. If you liked the M&P 9, you should like the .45

 

[ultratec00]

If the M&P you're looking at has a mag safety, it may be the LE version. My first M&P45 was a FS LE model that came with 3 mags, night sights, thumb, AND mag safety.

I own a Glock 21. Reliable and I shoot it well. That being said, it is a Glock and I hate the stock trigger with a passion. There are many aftermarket options for trigger replacement, but my preference is still my M&P45s. Totally different feel, just as reliable, and very accurate. That being said, they all have been apexed, to include the apex trigger. The M&P just feels better in my hand and I'll part with the Glock 21 way before I part with one of my M&P45s.

 

[robert1804]

I have an M&P .45 Mid-Size and a Glock 21 gen 4, both fairly new and both unmodified. I have medium size hands and prefer the M&P ergos. The M&P has better sights in both material and picture. I prefer the Glock trigger. Felt recoil is a bit less on the Glock. In stock condition I have no real preference for either pistol, both are great shooters and 100% reliable in my experience. Of course, much better sights and a trigger kit are easy on a Glock.

 

[cjcutter1]

If the M&P you're looking at has a mag safety, it may be the LE version. My first M&P45 was a FS LE model that came with 3 mags, night sights, thumb, AND mag safety.

I own a Glock 21. Reliable and I shoot it well. That being said, it is a Glock and I hate the stock trigger with a passion. There are many aftermarket options for trigger replacement, but my preference is still my M&P45s. Totally different feel, just as reliable, and very accurate. That being said, they all have been apexed, to include the apex trigger. The M&P just feels better in my hand and I'll part with the Glock 21 way before I part with one of my M&P45s.

No safety on this model. Not a fan of safeties.

 

[M29since14]

Might be best to stay with your Glocks if you are happy with them. I would much rather buy M&Ps than Glocks just because I like buying US-made products when/if I can, and I do prefer the 1911ish grip angle of the M&P, compared to the Glock. But, if you are happy with your Glocks, I can't think of any reason to change other than those I mention. Both good guns - and both do the same job equally well, IMO.

 

[WisconsinKen]

I have multiple M&Ps with a nice tricked out M&P 45C as my favorite poly gun in 45. I also have a few Glocks. I like the glocks. However, the grip change on the M&P (IMHO) is so much better than the backstrap change on the glock. Any M&P with the small grip segment in fits me like a glove.

I would suggest picking it up if you have the cash and try it out. If you don't like it, dump it. Probably will be cash neutral or worst comes to worse maybe $25-50 in the hole. If you wind up loving it more, you can always decide to part ways with your Glocks. I know up here in my area,I can trade a Glock for an M&Pplus cash any day of the week.

 

[shooter1911]

Take it to the bank Glocks and M&Ps are both great functioning guns. I personally like M&Ps much better than Glocks, probably because I'm a 1911 guy and the grip angle emulates the grip on a 1911, but I'll tell you what I told my son when he asked me which one he should buy. "Fire both of them and then make your decision". He took my advice and bought a G19 over the M&P. He recently bought a Shield so go figure.

 

[Rastoff]

Take it to the bank Glocks and M&Ps are both great functioning guns.

At the risk of opening a can-o-worms, I don't agree with this statement as written.

M&Ps are great functioning guns. Glocks are pretty good if you hold them correctly. I've seen more Glocks than any other type/brand have Type II malfunctions (stovepipe). This is likely shooter induced, but it still happens. I want a gun that won't have this type of malfunction regardless of the shooter.

Now, I'll caveat that last statement by saying that I've seen more Glocks than any other gun also. So, it's possible my data is not normalized. Still, I stand by my statement that the M&P is more reliable than the Glock if only for this one reason.

 

[shooter1911]

At the risk of opening a can-o-worms, I don't agree with this statement as written.

M&Ps are great functioning guns. Glocks are pretty good if you hold them correctly. I've seen more Glocks than any other type/brand have Type II malfunctions (stovepipe). This is likely shooter induced, but it still happens. I want a gun that won't have this type of malfunction regardless of the shooter.

Now, I'll caveat that last statement by saying that I've seen more Glocks than any other gun also. So, it's possible my data is not normalized. Still, I stand by my statement that the M&P is more reliable than the Glock if only for this one reason.

No can of worms here. I have never owned a Glock, and just assumed that due to every LE agency on the planet using Glocks that they would be as reliable as M&Ps. I also have a ton of friends who shoot Glocks and they all say they are extremely reliable. I can certainly understand FTFs, andf FTEs in such a light gun if not properly handled. I can attest to the reliability of the M&P as I do own one and mine is scary reliable.

 

[cjcutter1]

I appreciate all the feedback thus far it's seems like I'm in a good place as far as the M&P and good feedback other than perhaps the reset and trigger but I'll have to see for myself. I do like the audible of the glock reset because I dry fire practice daily. Decisions.

 

[Rastoff]

The newer M&Ps have been redesigned to give a better reset feel. Still not as sharp and loud as the Glock. However, if that's your only reason for buying a Glock over the M&P, it's not a good one. I'll take reliability over reset any day.

Also, I'm sure you realize where you are on this forum. You have to expect that the opinions will be heavily biased toward the M&P.

 

[S. Kelly]

I'm a Glock fanatic, I feel they are the best handguns out there, but do like the M&P45. It's the best M&P, hands down. If the price is right, why not grab it?

 

[kthom]

cj,

My personal opinion here ... and I don't have a huge amount of experience with the Glocks. I did own a Glock 21 for some time. My experience with both the M&P 9 and the M&P45 has been very, very good. They both fit my hands well and they both shoot well and have been utterly reliable. They are the softest shooting handguns I have fired in each caliber. I am also one who has not found it necessary to modify the triggers on either of my guns, and I feel the same about the models of the Shield that my wife and I own. We do not use any of these guns for target competition, but it's difficult for me to believe that either of us could actually shoot any more accurately with a better trigger. But understand that we are well beyond the time in our lives when we could actually get a great sight picture on our handguns!

If you liked the MP9 you previously handled, you will like the MP45. Since the firing and handling drill is the same with the Glock and the S&W M&P handguns, you should be able to shoot either one interchangeably. I suspect you will shoot the best with the one that fits your hands the best and that you just instinctively "like" the best. And since both are popular handguns, and with the package you mention that comes with the MP45, you should not have any problem moving it along if it just doesn't work out for you. Some things you just won't really know until you try one for yourself and get your own personal feed back from it! Good luck!!!!