I never thought I'd be a Sig owner.....

[rwsmith]

Some S&Ws that I saw at a pawn shop have been calling my name for a long time and I dropped by. They weren't there any more, but there was a used Sig P250 9mm. Got to $385 and I said 'Sold'. Looking at Sig prices I didn't think I'd ever own one. I'm going to check it out at the range tomorrow. it appears to have MSRP of $500, which is pretty inexpensive for a Sig.

The only thing 'wrong' seems to be that the blue is worn on the barrel where the bushing hits along with some lines at the locking points on the barrel. So it has been fired some, but mostly looked like it needed a cleaning. I see that Sig was supposed to supply several countries with large quantities for police work, but were never able to keep the quality up and H&K won out.

Can somebody tell me about these? Interesting that they are 'modular' guns that can convert easily to other calibers. The firing action even comes out by removing the take down lever pin.

 

[bobcat3388]

Just purchased Sig P320

From what I understand, you made a good purchase. The P250 is a close kin to the P320. I had recently been looking to purchase a high capacity 9mm and was researching the H&K VP9, Walther PPQ, S&W M&P 2.0, and the Sig P320. After about 2 weeks of research (based on reliability, warranty service, known owners of the guns, etc.) I had all but decided on the Walther PPQ. I had seriously looked at the Sig, but I read that many people did not like the more vertical grip angle on the Sig, and I had held and fired a PPQ, which fit my hand perfectly. Then I visited the LGS, and actually held and fired a rental P320. I was sold. It felt just as good as the PPQ, Sig's customer service is well known, and the price was about the same as the PPQ, plus the Sig already came with night sights and that would be an additional cost with the PPQ.
I also like the modularity of the Sig, since the serialized part of the gun is the trigger group, you can order different calibers (slide, barrel, recoil spring assy, and grip module) for about $350-$400. Plus, you can order different grip modules in different sizes (ie: full size, carry, and compact) and colors for about $45 from Sig or other retailers. From my research on the Sig website, I noticed that the P250 and P320 share some of the same parts such as the grip modules.
All in all, I think you will be happy with the purchase, but that is just my 2 cents worth.

 

[Wee Hooker]

Sig makes a darn solid and well fit pistol. I'm particularly in love with their 1911's. Enjoy your new find. You got it at a great price.

 

[ColbyBruce]

I bought a barely used Sig P250sc .40 S&W last Thursday with the box, papers, and four spare mags for $305.00 + tax. I like DAO pistols, and these are capable of repeat strike. I have a FDE grip module in route, it should arrive today.

The early Sig P250 pistols had a few problems, Sig ironed those out and made a few design changes to the fame. The long trigger pull turns a lot of people off, but the pull is smooth and consistent. The mag release can be switched to the RH side for lefties and the slide release is ambidextrous. Overall size is comparable to a Glock 26 with a +2 extension on the magazine, but a bit thinner.

If it fits your hand properly, I think you will like it.

 

[Shark Bait]

I have a 1911 Ultra and like it a lot.

 

[TTSH]

Sig makes a darn solid and well fit pistol. I'm particularly in love with their 1911's. Enjoy your new find. You got it at a great price.

Sig always intrigued me despite the fact that I never really understood what the company wanted to be... i.e., their place or niche or purpose in the American handguns/firearms marketplace. I felt that I understood S&W... and Colt... and Ruger... and many others... but never Sig. I started off buying a Mosquito .22 because I thought that would help, but it didn't. Many times, I wanted to buy a Sig SP2022 as well (because it felt so good shooting it), but the last good opportunities to snag one at a decent price eventually went away. And it sure didn't help matters that their all-metal P-Series pistols weren't exactly cheap.

It was a short-term promotional membership at a local range with numerous loaner pistols (including Sigs) that finally turned me around. I no longer cared about the company's raison d'être. I just cared about the quality, reliability and accuracy I was feeling and seeing.

I now own a P226 and a P229. Both great guns. Someday, if I live long enough, I will probably own a P220 or P227 as well.

I am far less impressed with their newest modular plastic pistols... but maybe that's just because plastic anything doesn't appeal to me in the same way that all-metal does. Everyone says that the P320-Series is fabulous (even with a MA-compliant trigger). Perhaps I will come around in time now that the military has decided to go with them.

 

[Neely52]

The P320 is the new kid on the block.
I have let several people shoot my P320c and they have all gone and bought one, and these are some serious shooters.
Never would have believed a stricker fired pistol could be so good.

Just saying.

 

[WVSig]

Some S&Ws that I saw at a pawn shop have been calling my name for a long time and I dropped by. They weren't there any more, but there was a used Sig P250 9mm. Got to $385 and I said 'Sold'. Looking at Sig prices I didn't think I'd ever own one. I'm going to check it out at the range tomorrow. it appears to have MSRP of $500, which is pretty inexpensive for a Sig.

The only thing 'wrong' seems to be that the blue is worn on the barrel where the bushing hits along with some lines at the locking points on the barrel. So it has been fired some, but mostly looked like it needed a cleaning. I see that Sig was supposed to supply several countries with large quantities for police work, but were never able to keep the quality up and H&K won out.

Can somebody tell me about these? Interesting that they are 'modular' guns that can convert easily to other calibers. The firing action even comes out by removing the take down lever pin.

Ok don't kill the messenger but you can get a NIB Sig P250 Compact/Subcompact/Fullsized with night sights if you shop around for about $355 NIB. You have to add shipping and transfer. So add $30 give or take a few. I have seen them as low as $310 recently for 9mms.

So on price you did OK not great. Don't worry about the wear on the barrel. It is 100% normal and does not effect the function of the gun. It is often referred as the "Sig Smile". On most guns the most severe wear happens in the first 300 rounds and then it slows down. Some of my well used Sig barrels are almost in the white in those areas.

Early P250s had problems. There have been about 5 different tweaks/revisions to the P250 pistol over the years. The biggest ones came after the pistol failed the ATF trials and Sig claimed that the ATF put too high a consideration on reliability in their evaluation. After that revision the pistol seems to be solid.

So I would try to ascertain when the pistol was built. I would look for a date code on the box it should be there. If your pistol is only a few years old you should be good to go. Even if it is older you should still be good to go. If however you ever need warranty work I would suggest that you do not say you bought the pistol used. Some people report Sig not honoring the warranty for second owners although for me personally they have.

The gun as I am sure you already know has a long DA pull. They long DA pull is very smooth. Many revolver shooters love it. For those who are used to Glock strikers and their short resets the long DA pull and long reset are a turnoff. This is one of the reasons P250 sales suffered. They were competing in the tactical plastic world and they are simply too different.

This is why Sig used the frame, slides and barrel as the guts for the P320 which is basically a striker fired version of the P250. IIRC the grip modules are all the same. So support for the P250 should continue even if Sig drops the line down the road which some believe they will with the P320 being more popular.

The modular nature of the pistol alloys you to use the fire control module in more than one grip/frame. The module technically is the pistol. You can move from a subcompact frame up to a full sized frame. You can also change the slide and barrel. Along with that you can get caliber conversion kits that will let your control module run a 40 S&W or .357 Sig gun. 45 ACP is not interchangeable due to larger dimensional differences IIRC.

The guns still has some smaller contracts but none that I can recall that were taken over by HK. Some were lost due to early reliability issues so it is possible some where taken over by HK but that is a huge price jump.

The largest contract gun Sig had prior to the adoption of the P320 by the Army was the Sig SP2022 which was adopted by the French. That is a DA/SA gun based on the old Sig Pro line of polymer pistols. It is a great gun. Its DA/SA is different than the classic P series Sigs but they can still be had for about $400 NIB not and then. There was a time when there were German proofed contract overruns everywhere for under $400 and they came with night sights and 3 mags. Those guns had triple serial numbers as well.

All in all the P250 is a decent budget shooter if you like the trigger. I did not keep mine. It was a gen 1 gun and ran fine. I bought it back when I was a "Sig" guy. I have seen downsized my Sig collection to a German P220, a German P228 X2, a US assembled P228, a German P225, a German Sig P226 and a P320 in 45 ACP. I am looking to get a P320 in 9mm with a couple of different frames and slide combos but I think I am going to get the new CZ P10 first.

Anyway good look with the new pistol I am sure it will serve you well.

 

[WVSig]

The P320 is the new kid on the block.
I have let several people shoot my P320c and they have all gone and bought one, and these are some serious shooters.
Never would have believed a stricker fired pistol could be so good.

Just saying.

Its because the striker is under full tension. Technically it is a SA only striker fired gun but it is still classified as a DA striker.

 

[ejfalvo]

I had Sigs for years, all the metal framed P220 varients and a P238. Yes, they are heavier than the plastic versions but they are rock solid, go bang every time I pull the trigger and Sig's CS is outstanding. Ive shot the P320 numerous times and will be purchasing one in the near term.

 

[bigwheelzip]

Looking at Sig prices I didn't think I'd ever own one.

I'm thankful that most of the SIG grips I've tried feel like the large diameter end of a baseball bat. Probably saved me a bunch of money. Been very happy with the P238 and less so with the Mosquito.

Good luck entering SIG world.

 

[WVSig]

I'm thankful that most of the SIG grips I've tried feel like the large diameter end of a baseball bat. Probably saved me a bunch of money. Been very happy with the P238 and less so with the Mosquito.

Good luck entering SIG world.

The Mosquito was discontinued for a reason. Also it was not a real Sig it was a zinc alloy made by German Sport Guns GmbH. German Sport Guns GmbH is so hit or miss with its QC I would never own one of their guns. Pot metal replica junk IMHO.

 

[03hemi]

Some S&Ws that I saw at a pawn shop have been calling my name for a long time and I dropped by. They weren't there any more, but there was a used Sig P250 9mm. Got to $385 and I said 'Sold'. Looking at Sig prices I didn't think I'd ever own one. I'm going to check it out at the range tomorrow. it appears to have MSRP of $500, which is pretty inexpensive for a Sig.

The only thing 'wrong' seems to be that the blue is worn on the barrel where the bushing hits along with some lines at the locking points on the barrel. So it has been fired some, but mostly looked like it needed a cleaning. I see that Sig was supposed to supply several countries with large quantities for police work, but were never able to keep the quality up and H&K won out.

Can somebody tell me about these? Interesting that they are 'modular' guns that can convert easily to other calibers. The firing action even comes out by removing the take down lever pin.

I saw that gun on G&A TV the other night and was very impressed, I have the 1911 5" that shoots a ragged hole it's so accurate. Those two ragged holes are two groups your looking at on the target. Here's mine and the target, first time out @ about 12' and the two I customized for my twin sons graduation from Marine boot camp. Enjoy, you have a great gun.

 

[Birdgun]

I love my little Sig P238 SAS. Amazing how well that little pistol shoots. Small, yet with enough heft for accurate shooting. Points naturally and has big boy sights. Just a nice, well made, reliable pistol in a small package. And, it's easy on the eyes to look at.

Thank you for looking.

God bless,
Birdgun

 

[ColbyBruce]

Transformation completed. I like this look.

 

[LVSteve]

I see that Sig was supposed to supply several countries with large quantities for police work, but were never able to keep the quality up and H&K won out.

Where can I read about that?

I looked at one of those SP2022 deals some years ago, but I just couldn't go through with the deal at the time. I also became one of the "I'll never own a Sig" brigade.

There are two in the safe now.

 

[TTSH]

I'm thankful that most of the SIG grips I've tried feel like the large diameter end of a baseball bat. Probably saved me a bunch of money.

That was the case for me too, at least on the P226 and P229, right up until they came up with the E2 grips.

 

[TTSH]

The largest contract gun Sig had prior to the adoption of the P320 by the Army was the Sig SP2022 which was adopted by the French. That is a DA/SA gun based on the old Sig Pro line of polymer pistols. It is a great gun. Its DA/SA is different than the classic P series Sigs but they can still be had for about $400 NIB now and then. There was a time when there were German proofed contract overruns everywhere for under $400 and they came with night sights and 3 mags. Those guns had triple serial numbers as well.

Where can I read about that?

I looked at one of those SP2022 deals some years ago, but I just couldn't go through with the deal at the time. I also became one of the "I'll never own a Sig" brigade.

There are two in the safe now.

I'm told that the SP2022 is either being discontinued or has already been discontinued. I lost my last opportunity for a really good price on one last year when a local dealer was blowing them out for cheap prior to going out of business. The 9mm versions sold out almost instantly he said. The .40's lingered but I've already got enough .40's to sink a ship.

It's funny how the SP2022 never quite rose to the top of my Want List during all those years when they were available and very reasonably priced. Now that they are scarce and expensive, I want one! Human nature strikes again!

 

[Whitwabit]

I have 2 sig's a P238HD and Legion P229 in 40 both shoot both are joys to shoot and very accurate .. the P238 is easy to carry and conceal in any clothing your wearing that day .. the Legion a bit bigger but still concealable I wear it IWB at 4:30..

I've never been a one brand only as I have pistols by 4 different makers ..

 

[bananaman]

Although I am into Smiths, Sig makes good weapons. Have a 1911, and a Sig P239. The quality is there. Bob