Best personal defense Ammo for shield 9mm?

What exactly is it that you like? Critical defense has some pretty dismal numbers out of a short barrel like the Shield or Glock 43.
Out of my Glock 43 Critical defense penetrated to 11 1/2" and expanded to .485". In comparison the Federal HST 124gr standard pressure penetrated to 18" and expanded to .622

I must admit, i may not fully know how to read the data. But 13" seems fine (12" minimum) and the expansion and velocity numbers are high. I also figured that 13" would be good for self defense and reduce over penetration. Someone please correct me if i am wrong. Like i said i will probably pick up the 135gr also
 
I must admit, i may not fully know how to read the data. But 13" seems fine (12" minimum) and the expansion and velocity numbers are high. I also figured that 13" would be good for self defense and reduce over penetration. Someone please correct me if i am wrong. Like i said i will probably pick up the 135gr also
According to the "FBI" they feel that 12-18" is the "ideal" range. Critical defense came up short of that. It also doesn't expand very much at all. Critical duty 135+P works well for barrier penetration similar to gold dot 124+P. I am not LEO so that criteria isn't as important to me. Most of these are designed around a full size duty weapon. The most consistent round that penetrates and expands from short, medium and long barrels is the 124 HST standard pressure. At least in my tests and everyone else. The 147 gr HST is great out of a "long" barrel. I have had a couple usually 2 out of 5 that will fail to expand using a short barrel.
As you are aware shot placement is everything. Approximately
36.5% are obese in America and close to 67% are overweight. It would make sense that deeper penetration around 16-18" would be ideal. Anyways shot placement rules over all others and there have been many shootings that resulted in fatalities with .22 and .380.
 
First I would do is try a different magazine. The top rounds are hard to remove from a loaded magazine. I would take the mag apart and check for bent spring. Make sure mag is clean on the inside as well. Check your follower. Do not ride the slide forward when loading your first round...pull back your slide and sling shot it.

When you had the slide open then inserted a loaded magazine and sling shot the slide did that work and every round fire?
What about sling shot the first round then take out the mag and add one more round to the magazine and reinsert. This way you are carrying one in the chamber with a full mag...did that work? All rounds were fired without incident?

It worked fine when I slingshot the slide after inserting the mag with an open slide, just not when loading the mag with the slide closed. I tried both 7 and 8 round factory magazines and the same thing happened with both. I think I have solved the problem by filing down the front of the magazine to give more clearance for the bullet to clear the mag.
 
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Never ordered from here, but they have a good price on Federal 9mm 124 Grain HST in a 50 round box: Federal HST LE 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain JHP

Please let us know how it goes if you order from them.

I was giving these guys a close look, but whenever I run across an operation that makes me go through the entire checkout routine, before giving me a shipping cost, I just empty my cart and go somewhere else. :mad:
 
I was giving these guys a close look, but whenever I run across an operation that makes me go through the entire checkout routine, before giving me a shipping cost, I just empty my cart and go somewhere else. :mad:

Didn't work that way when I went there: I just clicked "Get estimates" in the checkout page. Shipping is ~$16 for 4 boxes of 50 124gr HST. Still haven't ordered from them, but that's not why.
 
Old guy and I've never have had any luck with hornady ammo other than rifle. I still use hydra shok ammo have for years and I say don't fix it if it's not broken.
 
I've been sold on Federal HST for a few years now, especially 147gr standard pressure.

I tested that in my new Shield this week, though, and it printed a little high, while 124+P HST and the old 9BPLE hit right on (7-10 yards). So I am going to try standard pressure 124gr HST.

Keep in mind that the (vast) majority of folks would be much better served putting the time they spend researching or debating ammo into practicing (safe!) handgun manipulation and shooting fundamentals to get that whole shot placement thing on their side.

Pick a JHP from a major manufacturer that you can afford to test in your gun for reliability and accuracy/point of impact and go with it. Bonus points if it's HST lol

And I always check SGAmmo.com | Family Owned and Operated Ammo Sales, Stillwater OK first, been using them for many years, always stellar
 
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Before asking "What ammo should I use?" you should ask "What should ammo do, what shouldn't it do, and how is it tested?" I recommend the following:
Handgun Wounding Factors and Effectiveness from the Firearms Training Unit of the FBI
Basic Wound Ballistic Terminal Performance Facts by Dr. Roberts (DocGKR)
Ordnance gelatin test assessment for rifle and pistol calibers by Dr. Roberts (DocGKR)
What's Wrong With The Wound Ballistics Literature And Why by Dr. Fackler

For specific recommendations I start here:
Service Caliber Handgun Duty and Self-Defense Ammo by Dr. Roberts (DocGKR)
Then here (for 9mm and 380):
9mm Ammo Quest on Youtube by ShootingTheBull410
 
The above link for HST 124 grain is actually the +p stuff. Look at the pic of box in link before buying.
 
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I finally got some time to shoot my 150gr. Federal HST micro today. I should have gotten to it sooner in the range session, I could tell I was starting to get fatigued after 150 rounds or so. First impressions. 1. Softest shooting 9mm round I have ever experienced. 2. Seemed to shoot a bit higher than the 147gr. Federal FMJ 3. Ran through my Shield without a hitch.
 
What I use:
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Hornady critical defense - Bought one box of 25 rounds of this the other day and ran it through my new Shield and man does it love that ammo! Although my wallet doesn't like it :)

Ran through smooth as butter, no FTE's at all, where as I was mentioning in another thread that the 350 round bucket of Remington 115 g, man my SHield did NOT like that at all. Several locked slides and jams after about 50 rounds. I know some ammo just doesn't work well in some guns but good grief! lol
 
Clever adage.....

As mentioned already, nearly any one of several modern,popular brands (including Hornady) will suffice just fine.
The critical thing is that it cycles properly in your weapon, and there's only one way to determine that (and it ain't by asking strangers on the internet :D).
These days, Federal's HST's are pretty widely considered the best-of-the-very-best, but the top-of-the-line stuff from Winchester,Hornady,Remington,Speer, and others, are very reliable and solid performers.
Personally, I'd go with whichever one was most readily available to you, and that you could most easily afford to shoot a box or two of, and then put a few boxes away. Hornady and Remignton Golder Sabres often seem to be more economical than the others, but the HST's can sometimes be found reasonably.

I HAS to run, In YOUR gun.:D

Some semi's are just picky about ammo.
 
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