Where I live there's a big please hold while your call is directed...when you dial 911, so I am on sort of a different program than the normal individual. 20-30 minute response time if something comes up serious and the deputies are misaligned.
I know they died. My point was the slugs are used and now you need to take a longer shot, maybe outdoors but all that's left is buck shot. In other words the ammo you wanted for A is gone and all you have is B.
I'm firmly convinced that it can get me a rabbit for the pot or a squirrel. Maybe even a couple of doves. It's hell on soda cans a cookie pans. I am not impressed with it as a defensive load. Buckshot comes in cheap 25 round boxes at Walmart. I take some duct tape and reinforce the bottom of the box and away I go. I carry a box of 25 buck shot, a box of 25 low brass #6's, and a box of 15 slugs in the vehicle. I am prepared for subsistence survival to defense from predators.
My Shockwave should arrive Tuesday. I'll be practicing with and keeping loaded 00 for the scientific reason that I already got a bunch on hand. Poking around the Net... most of what I read indicates there won't be a significant difference in velocity or pattern compared to my 18in Win Defender.
A tape measure reveals that my Defender with a pistol grip installed would only be about 2 inches longer than the Shockwave. Can someone remind me again why I bought the Shockwave?
Come on now, there was a purpose for the different load outs. They weren't just random lots of ammunition for task A and B. These guys were shooting folks robbing liquor stores. By night the store was more likely to be crowded so slugs instead of shot inside and shot outside because you can see all that well coming from a lit store out into a dark street. Also the street would be less populated at night. By day, most people had JOBS so the street would be more crowded than the store. Rushing out into the street one would need the precision of a slug for shooting into vehicles and possibly avoiding innocent people at a distance.
Come on now, you can't do that. We need details!Based on my limited testing, I vote: None of the above.
I never mentioned AR, you did.
Well out of all the tactical bird hunters, you have the best setup. I can at least respect the high brass #6 as I say that it's not for me. I'll even say that it's quite a respectable amount of power being laid down right there. That a solid shell that can take down larger animals in a pinch. However you're on the lowercase side of incapacitated still. I'm going to be hard pressed to ever get down to BB's and that's going to take a house full of people in the middle of an apartment complex. When we start defending ourselves with fine shot, we might want to ensure we have a fine lawyer as the shooter and the shootee have potential to become entwined over the long term. I always assume that intruders have come armed and the longer they remain capacitated the greater the chance they have at shooting back at me and I guarantee that they aren't concerned about over penetration.
