wrkerr
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Given the Model 10's history, I find this hard to believe. Not the 3 million.... that the Shield is the record-holder.
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Given the Model 10's history, I find this hard to believe. Not the 3 million.... that the Shield is the record-holder.
Fastbolt
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The info was two-fold.
First, that the Shield became the top selling commercial pistol in the world for the last period (6 months?) from which numbers were pulled within the industry.
Second, that the sales of the Shield, in the short time it's been available, has broken every sales record of the company, which isn't the same thing as the total number of units ever sold compared to any other particular model over a decades-long record.
If the Shield is around for as many decades as the venerable "M10", I wouldn't be surprised if the total number sold, over the span of another several decades, might eclipse that of the revolver.
FWIW, last Fall we were told in a Glock armorer class that in the time their G43 has been on the market, it had become the fastest and hottest selling Glock model.
I don't know what the numbers of the XDs might be, because I'm not a Springfield pistol armorer and thus haven't had any inside info/trivia offered by a rep, tech or armorer instructor. Ditto the Kahr or Beretta lines of little pistols.
The allure and sales of the diminutive plastic 9's have been pretty hot for the last couple of years, though.
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Christopher67
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Is this "Only" In the 9/40/45 Shields? Do the NEW M&P M2.0 Compact/Full Size have this issue? Need to know before i get home to check. Thanks!
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wrkerr
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Makes more sense now. Thanks.
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Yet another 100% reliable Shield here.
After seeing this thread I still intend to carry my 100% reliable 2016 built Shield 9mm. I looked at my spring and it is sticking out about half a millimeter but is still black and I will likely tap it in (I like playing gunsmith) but am not going to lose sleep over it. I have around 1000 flawless rounds through it. Guess I am a gambler for believing in a firearm that has a reputation for being as reliable as any other.
For you pessimists: Guess what, you can find posts all over the internet about every gun ever made saying there is some sort of fatal flaw and you should not buy one, even Glocks. No man made machine is ever going to be 100% reliable 100% of the time. So less than 0.1% of Shields has had this issue but it's an epidemic? I think not. Some people are just so over dramatic. "Here is this one other post with the same problem so the gun is not reliable and one other post proves my point", Grow up. Show me that there is a large majority that have this issue and then that will prove this is a real problem, but you can't.
This seems to be a very uncommon issue with the Shield 9/40. Knowing about this I would still have purchased one and will continue to be confident that mine will not malfunction.
The old saying "people sometimes post when everything is good but always post when it's bad" still hold water.
But hey, if you want to buy another gun then it's your right, but I am sure I could find a handful of posts about how that gun has a "Fatal Flaw" as well. But if you notice that was not the subject of this thread, it was a very small chance of a "possible" issue and a fix to make sure it doesn't happen.
After seeing this thread I still intend to carry my 100% reliable 2016 built Shield 9mm. I looked at my spring and it is sticking out about half a millimeter but is still black and I will likely tap it in (I like playing gunsmith) but am not going to lose sleep over it. I have around 1000 flawless rounds through it. Guess I am a gambler for believing in a firearm that has a reputation for being as reliable as any other.
For you pessimists: Guess what, you can find posts all over the internet about every gun ever made saying there is some sort of fatal flaw and you should not buy one, even Glocks. No man made machine is ever going to be 100% reliable 100% of the time. So less than 0.1% of Shields has had this issue but it's an epidemic? I think not. Some people are just so over dramatic. "Here is this one other post with the same problem so the gun is not reliable and one other post proves my point", Grow up. Show me that there is a large majority that have this issue and then that will prove this is a real problem, but you can't.
This seems to be a very uncommon issue with the Shield 9/40. Knowing about this I would still have purchased one and will continue to be confident that mine will not malfunction.
The old saying "people sometimes post when everything is good but always post when it's bad" still hold water.
But hey, if you want to buy another gun then it's your right, but I am sure I could find a handful of posts about how that gun has a "Fatal Flaw" as well. But if you notice that was not the subject of this thread, it was a very small chance of a "possible" issue and a fix to make sure it doesn't happen.
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Here is one picture showing a spring that slipped out, and a pair of them that shows a correctly seated spring and one sitting outside the slot.
FWIW, from what I have observed on this forum, Shield 9mm's manufactured in 2017 seem to be the ones exhibiting this issue. Earlier ones seemed more likely to have recoil spring problems.
Since they no longer pack a fired case with a date how can you tell when it was built?
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I have a recent Shield 2.0 with the black box and I don't see a date stamped on it
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Thanks 10/3/17
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rogerthedodger
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My Shield is April 2015. Spring is good. Thnx to the op. This is a good check when cleaning the gun.
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BigDog48
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This thread is a year old since it started.
Everything in your pistol that you can see should be examined every time you clean it, but...for 99.9% of Shield owners this will never be an issue.
Everything in your pistol that you can see should be examined every time you clean it, but...for 99.9% of Shield owners this will never be an issue.
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I found this thread recently when searching about slide stop issues.
A friend's Shield from 2017 had this spring problem that bound up his slide.
My new Shield Plus came with a slide stop spring sticking out half way, so this issue remains even today. I tapped the spring in below flush after addressing other issues with the spring.
I think Shields are decent pistols, but nothing is perfect. All guns have quirks. It's good to learn about and pay attention to the known weaknesses of one's firearms, particularly those intended to be used for defensive purposes.
The attached pictures show how my Shield Plus' slide stop spring came from the factory and how deeply it can and should be seated. You don't need tools to examine yours. Just take a look at the spring.
You don't have to remove the trigger block to seat the spring deeper. My 2017 vintage "1.0" Shield's spring was also sitting a little proud when I examined it today. I hadn't paid any attention to it before. The side is shiny from wear. I tapped it in to a little below flush using a small punch without disassembling anything. Even though my 1/16"ish punch doesn't fit down into the slot, angling the punch allowed setting the spring deeper. Only very light taps are required.
Is the slide stop spring not being seated properly a problem? It sure can be. It is an easy thing to check and resolve. I thank the OP for describing this issue.
A friend's Shield from 2017 had this spring problem that bound up his slide.
My new Shield Plus came with a slide stop spring sticking out half way, so this issue remains even today. I tapped the spring in below flush after addressing other issues with the spring.
I think Shields are decent pistols, but nothing is perfect. All guns have quirks. It's good to learn about and pay attention to the known weaknesses of one's firearms, particularly those intended to be used for defensive purposes.
The attached pictures show how my Shield Plus' slide stop spring came from the factory and how deeply it can and should be seated. You don't need tools to examine yours. Just take a look at the spring.
You don't have to remove the trigger block to seat the spring deeper. My 2017 vintage "1.0" Shield's spring was also sitting a little proud when I examined it today. I hadn't paid any attention to it before. The side is shiny from wear. I tapped it in to a little below flush using a small punch without disassembling anything. Even though my 1/16"ish punch doesn't fit down into the slot, angling the punch allowed setting the spring deeper. Only very light taps are required.
Is the slide stop spring not being seated properly a problem? It sure can be. It is an easy thing to check and resolve. I thank the OP for describing this issue.
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My Shield Plus slide wouldn’t release from the frame for cleaning after about 1,500 rounds and I had to return it to the factory for repair. I’ve since put another 1,000 rounds through it without issue, but it had bothered me that I didn’t know what caused this. Now I do. Thanks for the heads-up on this.
STRANGE.............I have 3 in 3 different calibers that go bang all the time with no problems.
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I have a Gen1, purchased April of 2012 with thousands of rds through it without an issue. I just took it apart and checked it and it is fine. I will keep an eye on it however!
How do you know it's time for a new RSA? Are you starting to experience FTE/Recoil issues?
My Gen1 has well over 36K rounds through it, still using the factory original RSA.
If you talk to 3 different service techs, you'll get 3 different GUESS-timations on what 'round count' one should replace it (anywhere from 5K to 15K, or more).
While I did get a replacement RSA a few Yrs back, I'm waiting for some sign (increased perceived recoil, FTEject, etc) indicating that the original is 'feeling its age'.
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