No carry work?

[Watchdog]

I can almost see your chest puffing out as you write those words.

I think I hurt myself when I fell out of my chair laughing at that.

 

[Old TexMex]

Sounds trite, but "judged by twelve or carried by six" and "you can get out of jail, but you can't get out of a pine box" come to mind.
I personally avoid debate on the matter....and situations that bring it up.
Some things need a whole lot of leaving alone.

 

[jmace57]

I work in the US for a French company. Visitors, contractors, etc are not prohibited from carrying. But, employees are. If you are caught, you are fired on the spot (even with a carry permit). It is the only time I don't carry. On the two or three times I have had to use the rail system during the day in my city, I have carried that day anyway. It is full of homeless, people just released from the city jail, and ne'ere do wells.

 

[Doug M.]

How do you deal with a place of work that does not allow cc? The big question is that the place of work is where you most need to carry?...

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One thing one needs to learn is to NEVER ask questions such as this on an open forum. This forum can easily be searched with google, and one need not be a member to read most if not all posts.
Part of personal safety is being "gray" - not standing out in a crowd.

 

[oneounceload]

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One thing one needs to learn is to NEVER ask questions such as this on an open forum. This forum can easily be searched with google, and one need not be a member to read most if not all posts.
Part of personal safety is being "gray" - not standing out in a crowd.

I disagree - there's nothing wrong with ASKING a question. Blatantly stating that you'll violate policy or break existing laws openly is something different.

 

[Kid44]

While everyone here................

lives in nice neighborhoods and in nice homes our office is in what could be described as a "less than desirable neighborhood" most, if not all of the guys here carry or have a gun in their desk drawer or car, I have mine on my person or top desk drawer every day.
If I leave the office for any reason it is on my person. While the business has nothing to do with guns it is a very gun friendly environment.

 

[cmort666]

lives in nice neighborhoods and in nice homes our office is in what could be described as a "less than desirable neighborhood" most, if not all of the guys here carry or have a gun in their desk drawer or car, I have mine on my person or top desk drawer every day.
If I leave the office for any reason it is on my person. While the business has nothing to do with guns it is a very gun friendly environment.

The town where I live and [used to] work is quite "safe". The only major crimes I recall here were a shootout between a guy who robbed a sportscard shop and the police (he lost), and a pedophile passing himself off as a "tutor" to mentally disabled kids.

The last full time employee job I had was here. The boss was a friend of mine. I was hired after I did extensive fraud and computer forensic research on my predecessor who'd embezzled or outright stolen in excess of $300,000 from my employer and various companies he owned.

I was not only allowed to carry, I was ENCOURAGED to carry, since my predecessor was a convicted felon and had made threats prior to being fired and locked out of the office.

I later helped my boss pick out a handgun at the Berea gunshow (a Springfield XD in 9x19mm).

All of my subsequent contract jobs have been at places banning carry. I'm able to leave my handgun in the car.

 

[Smoke]

While everyone here lives in nice neighborhoods and in nice homes our office is in what could be described as a "less than desirable neighborhood" most, if not all of the guys here carry or have a gun in their desk drawer or car, I have mine on my person or top desk drawer every day.
If I leave the office for any reason it is on my person. While the business has nothing to do with guns it is a very gun friendly environment.

You sure about that?

I don't spend too much time talking about my neighborhood around here anymore.

The management just got around to evicting the folks in 310. The actual renter has been gone for a couple of months and the squatters who were in there were selling heroin out of their apartment.

My actual next door neighbor has moved out. He got a one bedroom place in Florence Co. (FCI Florence) After he robbed a Wells Fargo on Academy Blvd.

Security is actually pretty good because the cops roll through our parking lot a couple of times a night. And the actual security company has been doing a good job of running the tweakers out of the laundry room.

Did I mention the kid that got shot in the parking lot last month?

I carry at home and I NEVER walk out my front door (not even to the laundry room) unarmed.

 

[Doug M.]

I disagree - there's nothing wrong with ASKING a question. Blatantly stating that you'll violate policy or break existing laws openly is something different.

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You are right in the narrow sense, but there are employers who do in fact search for such things, or hire companies to do so. Even asking in this setting is enough to make the employer curious, and our rights with regard to employer actions are pretty limited. Most people are far too careless about personal security and keeping info off the web. I see results of this on a regular basis.

 

[Weimar]

I'm more of a peanuts guy, but a beer and a snack would be great for this thread.

I have never liked how beer tastes... but I'd still share one with you as we watch this

 

[Ogandydancer]

I guess it depends on how much you like your job. I cannot carry at work. I respect that rule. I've been with the same company 32 years, so I guess I must like it. I've only wished I was armed once - during an attempted armed robbery. A guy walked up to the pharmacy,pointed a pistol, and demanded oxycontin. He did not get any. The pharmacy tech and pharmacist both ducked behind the counter. The doors were securely locked barring him from entry, and he just walked away rather than trying to climb over. He was quickly apprehended by law enforcement, so the story has a happy ending.

One department manager regularly carried in her purse. She made a mistake and showed it to the wrong person who outed her. She was immediately terminated and arrested. Although she had claimed to have a license to carry she did not, thus the arrest.

You must be a pharmacist, the local owned pharmacy that I use one of the pharmacists open carries all the time so whether I am open or concealed when I visit the store I fell at ease. Matter of fact he and I have discussed it a couple of times.

 

[dougb1946]

Our lives come from God. So does our right to defend them.
There is only one gun law in this country, the 2nd Amendment. All else is bureaucratic nonsense that I choose to comply with or not at my discretion..

By law, the 2A gave the right to regulate guns to the individual states, per SCOTUS-who by law are the legal interpreters of the constitution. You control your own actions, until you break a law , and then someone else controls them. Carrying into a posted area is trespass and carrying to work concealed when there is a policy banning is a violation of your work agreement. When you were hired, you knew the rules and by accepting the job, agreed to follow the rules. If you carry, it means you lied, and can no longer be trusted.

 

[Walkingwolf]

Most places if you are legal to carry you will just lose your job. A person has to factor in the possible dangers of their job whether it is worth it, or not. YOU will get fired, but if justified likely no criminal charges. I believe there has been a couple recent incidents. Enough public pressure, and you might get to keep your job, such as the girl who worked for Papa John's Pizza. I also believe the Pizza Hut employee in Charlotte kept his job. The girl for Circle K lost her job, but I believe another business offered a job almost immediately.

Two pieces of advice KYBMS(keep your big mouth shut), and loose lips sink ships.

 

[gen3guy]

I had a long and interesting career with a large technology conglomerate in Arizona. We were allowed to keep guns in our cars in the parking lot (state law) but bringing a weapon into the workplace was strictly forbidden.

I would have been a fool to risk my pension and the bulk of my retirement savings just so I could carry in a low risk environment because I thought I had the "right" to do so.

Workplaces are not democracies.

 

[RoyOdhner]

I'm a psych tech/case worker at a large county jail. Carrying a gun in the jail is strictly forbidden, and to violate this policy is a felony. However, I willingly comply because I don't want a felony cause number and TDCJ number associated with my name, I love my job, I have the mutual respect of my chain of command and coworkers (both in the company I work for and in the Sheriff's Dept), I make a pretty decent living at it, and I'm trying to get my LPC license.

For some, up and quitting in-order-to find a job that lets them carry at work might be the right thing to do, but not for me. My comfortable life and even more comfortable future depends on me complying with this policy, and I love my job and like my coworkers too much to just give it all up because I can't pack while at work.

"... Carrying into a posted area is trespass and carrying to work concealed when there is a policy banning is a violation of your work agreement. When you were hired, you knew the rules and by accepting the job, agreed to follow the rules. If you carry, it means you lied, and can no longer be trusted." Truer words were never spoken. I knew the terms of employment going in, and I agreed to them.