Kid Cars -- 1930s

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Transportation for most kids in the 1930s was varied - walk - roller skates - bicycle - horse - and for the favored few maybe a motor bike or a home-made something. In the days before rural electricity, washing machines could be had with a small gasoline engine - which sometimes wound up in kid projects. Nothing compared with getting a car.

I loved old cars, antique guns, old anything - but I didn't graduate into hot-rod cars or modern guns. I'm still of a 19th century mindset. I was a pretty good mechanic and could fix most anything, make it run at least for a while.

Somehow I got a Model T Ford at about 14 (1938) for $15 dollars. As I recall my Grandmother was a major contributor making it possible. No car license, no drivers license, no insurance I was living a teenage dream. As I recall kids could get drivers license at 14 that was limited to driving back and forth to school - not that anyone was affected much by that limitation. Full license at 16. In the depths of the depression law enforcement was sparse, interested in real lawbreakers. I do recall a couple kids getting tickets.

Fifteen dollars was about the going price for a Model T if its engine didn't sound too bad, radiator didn't leak much and the tires looked like they would get you home. For a Model A $25. Next I bought a stripped Model T truck for $5, no papers, very bad tires I expected to sell for more. After couple months I sold it for $5 just to get rid of it.

By now about 1940, best car was a 1925 Studebaker originally owned by John Ringling of the Ringling railroad & Ringling Bros. Circus, owned by Ringling's ex-bookkeeper here. In great mechanical shape, a hard top convertible (in modern terms) open above the doors without windows, bought it for $18. Driven daily until recently but had always sat out so we took off the bad top and had a roadster. Tires were a major issue, all worn well into the white fabric breaker strips. It was a heavy car and used a tire common to trucks so we found a tire now and then for fifty cents or a dollar with only a little fabric showing. "We" was a partnership with a schoolmate. Painted green with black fenders we were envied by most of the highschool.

Sale to another highschooler brought it to its sad end at Lake Murray. I should mention that when the lake was made there were section line roads that ran into the lake, now handy for launching boats. A trailer with the boat was backed down close to or into the water, etc. Studebaker was parked on one of these inclines, probably slipped out of gear and slowly rolled down into Lake Murray - where it remains to this day.

My Grandfather had a Model A coupe kept in pristine condition, easily the best Model A in town. Sometimes I would drive him to his office over Collier Bros Furniture, SE corner B and West Main, then drive to highschool and have limited use of the car till I picked him up at 5 oclock. I was proud to be driving such a fine car, so I gave it great care.

Care can be in several forms. A day with no school, I was driving it with a couple other kids toward Lone Grove, West of Ardmore. Behind a very decrepit Model A two-door creeping along, I started to pass. Its left rear wheel came off and ran up under my right front fender behnd the wheel, bending it up about a foot. I confronted the other driver, an almost pitiful man, wife and small child, obviously at the bottom of resources. Almost at least, he gave me his last $1.50 to pay for the damage. We put his wheel back on for him.

I had visions of a huge body shop bill of $20. Studying the damage, it was all a gentle bend with the running board/fender support broken away from the frame of the car. Bought one from a junkie for a dollar, bolted it up to put the fender back like it had always been. One place was rough at an old body putty repair that I concealed with some quick-dry lacquer. All in about two hours. Fortunately my Grandfather never knew. Some days later he saw the rough area which I explained probably some of the kids had stepped on that area when we were hunting.

Something else parents didn't know -- now and then at night we would drive down country roads, one of us sitting on each front fender and shoot rabbits by car lights with our .22s. At the time either the Model A or the Studebaker or some other kid's car.

If a kid had any car that would run you were envied by those who had to walk. Kid judgment of cars was, would it run and not much else - altho the gas it used, appearance and how fast it would go were factors. Speed was a major factor in judging parent's cars - and we tried them out when we got a chance. Model As got about 20 miles per gallon max. Model T about the same but nobody knew because Model Ts didn't have a speedometer. Gas in Ardmore was about 17-19 cents a gallon, out on the edge of town 12 -15 cents. People complained that gas was always cheaper in Davis.
 
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...I had one of these as my main ride back in the fifties...

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This oughta take you back.

Built like the late forties/early fifties cars, The ones that started the aftermarket HotRod craze. Roadsters were preferred due to weight savings and fenders were usually tossed.

All of the major parts are pre forty ford.

These were the terror of the strip until the advent of the overhead engines like the small block Chevy.

A-V8 Traditional as they are called these days.

I'd buy every model A I could if I had a time machine.
 

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This oughta take you back.

Built like the late forties/early fifties cars, The ones that started the aftermarket HotRod craze. Roadsters were preferred due to weight savings and fenders were usually tossed.

All of the major parts are pre forty ford.

These were the terror of the strip until the advent of the overhead engines like the small block Chevy.

A-V8 Traditional as they are called these days.

I'd buy every model A I could if I had a time machine.

Don't parking like that, on the right side, scratch the paint? :D
 
Man, rhmc24, I absolutely love hearing these stories from the people who lived them! Thanks! The best I can do is remembering my mother complain when gas got to .50 cents a gallon!

...I was complaining in high school when Ethyl for our hot rods cost 38 cents a gallon...
 
There were some spectacular cars around Ardmore - but not for kids. Here are some I fondly remember and lusted after --

Cadillac 1931 16 cylinder seven passenger sedan with 25000 miles on it traded in on a 1940 Oldsmobile. Paid $7500 new, owner had used it for summer trips with his large family. Sold for $300 to a man for his son couple years older than us who soon lost his life flying a light plane.

Marmon 1930 16 cylinder coupe, much used, trade-in. Olds - Cadillac dealer was King Motors on Broadway across from the then Post Office.

Lincoln 1930 Victoria Coupe, beautiful condition, owned by prominent Ardmore man, became a delivery car for local butcher. It was seen often with a huge insulated box mounted on the back.

Auburn 1934 12 cylinder Victoria Coupe, had 12000 miles on it, owned by a lady, chauffer driven, serviced at my Dad's station, then SE corner Bst and Broadway. Fantastic green, chromed wire wheels, with every conceivable luxury of the day, 2nd gear shift lever for two speed rear. I once had the opportunity of backing it off the rack after an oil change.

Pierce Arrow 1928 Victoria Coupe, owned by friend's dad who bought it after years of storage, like new, very low mileage. I drove it quite a bit. I recall how wonderful a car it was to drive and how some things about cars have not improved much over time.

Pierce Arrow 1914 seven passenger touring car was stored in a garage on a street I walked by often to and from highschool. It had 7000 miles on it, right front wheel jacked up, sat there for years. Steering wheel on the right with hand levers outside. No front doors, one entered rear door and walked between front seats to drive it. I heard it went in scrap drive for WW2. All the above had aluminum bodies and probably suffered the same fate.

Mercer 1914 Racers - two of them, beautiful conditon, were stored in a garage on Hinkle street, few doors West of A st. I went in and looked at them several times over the years and were there till around 1949. In mid '50s I told a man in NY about them and he came to Ardmore to try find them but they had disappeared.

A highschool teacher had a pristine Model T, another had a 1927 Whippet, a neighbor had a real nice 1925 Star pickup he drove every day as a carpenter. The city of Ardmore had two 1914 Seagrave fire trucks up to around 1941, replaced by new Seagraves.

My Father refused a 1934 Packard coupe, biggest straight 8 engine, because it needed brakes, muffler was blown out and it was such a gas eater. Customer of his offered it for $85.

You gotta stop somewhere. I could go on with vehicle technical details and features but probably interesting only to old mechanics like me.
 
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I'm still crying because my dad would't let me buy a 36 Ford slant back for $50 because it had mechanical brakes. I was all of 15 at the time.

The model A's with a Rocky Mountain rear end were a good buy, because you didn't have to use the reverse to get up some of the hills.

WuzzFuzz
 
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There were some spectacular cars around Ardmore - but not for kids. Here are some I fondly remember and lusted after --

Cadillac 1931 16 cylinder seven passenger sedan with 25000 miles on it traded in on a 1940 Oldsmobile. Paid $7500 new, owner had used it for summer trips with his large family. Sold for $300 to a man for his son couple years older than us who soon lost his life flying a light plane.

Marmon 1930 16 cylinder coupe, much used, trade-in. Olds - Cadillac dealer was King Motors on Broadway across from the then Post Office.

Lincoln 1930 Victoria Coupe, beautiful condition, owned by prominent Ardmore man, became a delivery car for local butcher. It was seen often with a huge insulated box mounted on the back.

Auburn 1934 12 cylinder Victoria Coupe, had 12000 miles on it, owned by a lady, chauffer driven, serviced at my Dad's station, then SE corner Bst and Broadway. Fantastic green, chromed wire wheels, with every conceivable luxury of the day, 2nd gear shift lever for two speed rear. I once had the opportunity of backing it off the rack after an oil change.

Pierce Arrow 1928 Victoria Coupe, owned by friend's dad who bought it after years of storage, like new, very low mileage. I drove it quite a bit. I recall how wonderful a car it was to drive and how some things about cars have not improved much over time.

Pierce Arrow 1914 seven passenger touring car was stored in a garage on a street I walked by often to and from highschool. It had 7000 miles on it, right front wheel jacked up, sat there for years. Steering wheel on the right with hand levers outside. No front doors, one entered rear door and walked between front seats to drive it. I heard it went in scrap drive for WW2. All the above had aluminum bodies and probably suffered the same fate.

Mercer 1914 Racers - two of them, beautiful conditon, were stored in a garage on Hinkle street, few doors West of A st. I went in and looked at them several times over the years and were there till around 1949. In mid '50s I told a man in NY about them and he came to Ardmore to try find them but they had disappeared.

A highschool teacher had a pristine Model T, another had a 1927 Whippet, a neighbor had a real nice 1925 Star pickup he drove every day as a carpenter. The city of Ardmore had two 1914 Seagrave fire trucks up to around 1941, replaced by new Seagraves.

My Father refused a 1934 Packard coupe, biggest straight 8 engine, because it needed brakes, muffler was blown out and it was such a gas eater. Customer of his offered it for $85.

You gotta stop somewhere. I could go on with vehicle technical details and features but probably interesting only to old mechanics like me.

...Cadillac 1931 16 cylinder seven passenger sedan...

...this is a 1933...

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...Marmon 1930 16 cylinder coupe...

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...Lincoln 1930 Victoria Coupe...

...this is a 1932...

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...Auburn 1934 12 cylinder Victoria Coupe...

...this is a 1934 Auburn V 12 4 Door Convertible...

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...Pierce Arrow 1928 Victoria Coupe...

...this is a 1932...

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...Pierce Arrow 1914 seven passenger touring car...

...this is a 1916...

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...Mercer 1914 Racer...

...this is a 1913...

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...A highschool teacher had a pristine Model T, another had a 1927 Whippet, a neighbor had a real nice 1925 Star pickup he drove every day as a carpenter. The city of Ardmore had two 1914 Seagrave fire trucks up to around 1941, replaced by new Seagraves...

...model T...

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...1927 Whippet...

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...1925 Star pickup...

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...1914 Seagrave fire truck...

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...1934 Packard Eight Coupe...

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I came a little bit later. Owned and drove a 1950 Chev 6 miles across pastures to neighboring ranch to meet the school bus my first two years of Highschool. Too young for a driver's license. Sold it and got a 53 Chev when I got my driver's license and drove to school so I could stay after school for basket ball practice and drive home after the bus trips to away games.

Gas was $.20 a gallon then.
 
All the pix sent me down memory lane --
The '33 Cad 16 shed the boxy early look --
The Marmon 16's owner had put it thru lot of rough oil field work --
I owned a '32 Lincoln Vic coupe in '43 just like that but tan color & had a low center headlight that turned with steering --
Friend's Pierce Arrow was green with a huge 6 cyl engine, 3 two cyl blocks in-line --
Seagrave fire truck I remember shorter & less apparatus on. Friend's father drove it -- telling once it threw a rod & piston out thru the oil pan & how much it cost & where it was made right again & OK now for years. I left home in '42 & the two old trucks sat in city surplus for years. I always dreamed of shortening, put on a little pick-up bed to have a neat runabout. That's #62 in mylist of unfulfilled dreams. --
That '34 Packard coupe was a dream to drive ---->
 
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I'm a wee bit younger than some of y'all. My first car was my late granddaddy's 1952 Buick Super 4 door sedan. It had the 263 c.i. overhead valve straight eight, hooked to a DynaFlow tranny. One of my buddies, Bill, found a 1955 Caddy Coupe DeVille. It had a V8 and the 4 speed Hydramatic transmission. He gave $75 for the car, but wound up replacing both the engine and transmission.

Another friend had his grandfather's 1954 Plymouth Belvedere. This one had a flathead 6 cylinder and an automatic transmission. I can't remember what Chrysler called their trannies back then.

Bill and I got our cars on the road, but we never did get the Plymouth road worthy.
 
I came a little bit later. Owned and drove a 1950 Chev 6 miles across pastures to neighboring ranch to meet the school bus my first two years of Highschool. Too young for a driver's license. Sold it and got a 53 Chev when I got my driver's license and drove to school so I could stay after school for basket ball practice and drive home after the bus trips to away games.

Gas was $.20 a gallon then.


Those old Chevies with their babbited bearings somehow could take a beating and keep coming back for more.

It wasn't a 53 but a 54, those were somewhat of a bear to replace the clutch and throw out bearing...But then again, I was just a young fellow and had another kid helping...Drove it over a ditch and straddled the ditch so we could get underneath it to work..Good thing there wasn't any standing water in the ditch at that time, but that was the way things went..

Remember changing a tire the old way, a hammer and a couple of screw drivers, put a patch on the tube and put it all back together...Lickey Split!!!! And of course the ole hand pump, air pump...Everyone carried a pump in their trunk as well as a tube patch kit.


WuzzFuzz
 
I could go on and on about working the ole gas station..TEXICO..I didn't have a green shirt to wear, so the boss, my uncle..gave me one of his to wear..about three sizes too big for me...I really looked like a dork in it..and the 8 point Texaco hat...with the star in front of course....again two sizes too big for me.

IGGY, .20 cents a gallon.....the ole gas station wars were great..a gas station on each corner, the lowest I remember was .19 cent...A kid could afford to take his squeeze out for a ride...a buck would get your a long way down the road...that's about 5 gallons, and considering most of those ole beaters would still get about 20 miles to the gallon. Another buck would get you both a coke, a burger, and maybe some fries.

Or...a pack of Lucky Strikes was .09 cents..Camels were .09. Pall Malls were .11. and a tank of gas, and you were "COOL" to go.........

Also Iggy, did you flip the gear shif lever over to the left side, so you could keep your arm around your squeeze?


WuzzFuzz


I'm getting off topic of the op's thread. sorry bout that.
 
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I never got that ol 50 Chev out of the cow pasture and there warn't no squeezes out there, but my 53 had an automatic transmission.

Momma raised some dummies, but they was my sister.
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My Dad worked at his uncles gas station summers and whenever he could. There was a district in McKeesport back then known as “Brick Alley”, the local “Red Light” district. His uncles gas station was nearby and many of the “ladies” were customers of his. Probably the “madams” since I can’t imagine many of the working gals could afford a car during the Great Depression. Anyhow, one of the ladies told Dads uncle she had a flat, and asked him to send someone to change the tire. Dad goes up the street dragging the floor jack behind him. Up the street a big black woman comes out, bares her ample bosom and offers my dad a good time. Dad said he was so scared he took of and left the jack behind. The black lady and other workers laughing at him as he ran. Uncle of course made go back to fetch the jack and fix the flat. I guess he was in his early teens or perhaps younger. Before he learned the joy of sex.
 
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