New 9mm shields

I own a Shield and an XD-s I could give you a number of reasons why I chose both but in the end it's up to you.
If you have a chance go shoot a Shield and make your own decision but remember there are in my opinion other single stacks that can be better than the Shield or the Glock.
Some brag on the new Walther PPS, XD-s, Kahr, and the Kel-Tec PF-9.

Don't depend on one or two opinions about which is better.
 
GA_Sheepdog said:
I've fired probably 150 rds though a buddy of mines 43. I wasn't really impressed with it. The trigger was nothing like the FS glocks but its still good gun. I just never cared to buy one.


I don't think one is better then the other. It all depends on how they feel and shoot in your hand. They are both reliable and have a huge after market support. The glock is slightly smaller but the m&p holds one more round.


Btw if you wanna talk about better, I'd say the 43 and shield are better then a kahr cm9.
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Totally disagree.. They are two different guns. The CM 9 is smaller and lighter. Much easier to carry. Mine has been perfect since new, about 700 rounds thru it already. I have a shield too, but there is nothing wrong with a CM9. I carry it 90% of the time.
 
For combat shooting i would recommend you focus more on the 'front' sight to quickly access the target. That of course is not competition shooting. Front Sight Range and many instructors encourage that. It is faster than trying to line up both sight pictures. This is for shorter target distances like we may face in a SD situation 7 ft. to 21ft. or so with practice. Snap shooting. Put the front sight on the target where you want it. It works.
 
Bone stock, they are too similar to really pick one.

Add the apex trigger and the Shield is a clear standout.
 
I have two Shields, PC and standard. Didn't shoot well with it at first. But eventually at one point was shooting better with it than my double stacks at 15 yards.

I wanted to like the G43 because it'd be easier to carry. Shooting it felt snappier, but that's from a few rounds in a rental. I honestly don't think you can try a new-to-you pistol and reach a fair conclusion without several hundred rounds.
 
Hunter991 said:
Totally disagree.. They are two different guns. The CM 9 is smaller and lighter. Much easier to carry. Mine has been perfect since new, about 700 rounds thru it already. I have a shield too, but there is nothing wrong with a CM9. I carry it 90% of the time.
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I owned a Kahr CM9. Great little sub compact perfectly designed for concealed carry whereas the G43 & M&P shield are what I would consider more combat capable. Between a Shield 9mm and a G43? I say keep the Glock.
 
Maxshield said:
Just picked up my 2nd 9 mm Shield. Also have the .45.....I love the platform, shoot them great, great ergos, light recoil and all S&W's I own have been absolutely reliable.
Bought the 2nd to range for its maiden voyage this morning and it was superb.

This target was 100 rds, as fast as I could shoot, around the horn at 10 yds



I've owned a lot of guns in the past 40 years but the Shield platform for CC , for me, is by far the best.

It offers shootability almost on par with a full size out to 20yds, superior concealabity, ultra reliability. I can easily hide it even at the gym with just shorts and a workout shirt....Just my favorites.
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Great resurrection of a year-old thread focusing on combat shooting and the front sight when the OP asked about choosing between a G43 and a Shield. ????
 
Shield9mm said:
I would keep the g43 it is a fine gun, very accurate easy to shoot and doesn't need any improvements like the shield, had one and regret selling it.


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I just saw a YouTube last night from one of the big "training companies". They recommended getting the Shield bacause it "doesn't need any improvements like the Glock". :D :D :D

They both seem to be very fine guns.
 
Got my Gen 1 Shield 9MM in a trade a couple of weeks ago and could not be happier. I was not really looking for one but took a leap of faith on a whim. It came without a safety & factory night sights. Amazing stock trigger measuring 7 lbs. and accurate out to 15 yards. I added to grip sleeve to help w/my XLG hands but left everything else alone. 300 + rounds so far w/o a single hiccup.
 
I think the Shield is a lot more gun for less money. I would pay more for a Shield than I would for a Glock 43. I like my Shield that much more!
 
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Old cop said:
Got my Gen 1 Shield 9MM in a trade a couple of weeks ago and could not be happier. I was not really looking for one but took a leap of faith on a whim. It came without a safety & factory night sights. Amazing stock trigger measuring 7 lbs. and accurate out to 15 yards. I added to grip sleeve to help w/my XLG hands but left everything else alone. 300 + rounds so far w/o a single hiccup.
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I think you're going to be very happy with your shield 9.
IMO, the ideal C.C. pistol.
 
I've had my 9mm Shield since the first week it was released, I now have close to 2,000 round through it, and still zero malfunctions.

I've had my Glock 43 approximately a year, and about 500 rounds through it, and zero malfunctions.

They are both very similar pistols, with the Glock being just slightly smaller. (My perception anyway.) It really comes down to what feels more comfortable to the shooter. These are both very fine defensive sub-compact pistols.

As far as accuracy issues go, I'm always a bit amazed how some people seem to believe that their concealed carry pistol should be a match-grade pistol, capable of sub MOA groups. The reality is these pistols were designed to be compact, reliable, and reasonably accurate. They were designed to be close quarters defensive pistols, NOT a sniper rifle. Yes, they should be held to a reasonable accuracy standard, which in the case of both of these pistols, they surpass the accuracy for a defensive pistol. The standard they were designed for is MOA, that's Minute Of Ambush.

I have always been concerned about putting a lighter match grade trigger in a defensive pistol. Under stress in a self defense situation, you are not going to be able to tell the difference between a 6-7 pound trigger, and 3-4 pound trigger. Your adrenaline will help with that. I'm also not very concerned with a crisp trigger reset, again because in a gunfight, I highly doubt the average person is going to be trying to only release the trigger just enough for the reset. I've interviewed several dozen people who have been in a gunfight, and the two incidents I was involved in, and trigger reset never was a consideration. Yes, for a match gun in say an IPSC combat match maybe, but the bullets aren't headed back at you from the target either.

Both of these pistols are excellent defensive carry pistols in stock form. It really depends on what feels the best to the individual shooter, as to which one they should carry.
 
I've read about a lot of people who had both, but sold one for whatever reason.
Some sold the G43, some sold the Shield.

I had both.
When doing a 5x5 drill, I pulled the G43 shots low left.
Doing the same drill with the Shield I can usually keep all shots on the 5" card.

If shooting slow target practice, I shot both guns about the same.
If shooting on a timer, I always shot the Shield better.
I sold the G43, even though it was a little smaller and seemed a little easier to carry.

Your mileage may vary.
It just depends on how well you shoot the G43.
 
Joeyg, if you haven't made up your mind on what to get, you might take a gander at the Walther PPS. It's supposed to be pretty good with a superior trigger.

On sale, $299 with free shipping:Walther PPS M2 9mm
 
Cheapskait said:
Joeyg, if you haven't made up your mind on what to get, you might take a gander at the Walther PPS. It's supposed to be pretty good with a superior trigger.

On sale, $299 with free shipping:Walther PPS M2 9mm
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I have a Walter PPX and a Walter P22QD. If the PPS has the same sweet trigger pull and outstanding grip of those 2 I would recommend it highly. I've become a Walther fan.
 
Hi Joey3023,

I'm extremely discriminating when it comes to self-defense handguns. My life is pretty darn important to me. I own no striker fire handguns. Were I to cave and buy one, it'd be a Shield.

I do wish S&W would revive the 5904. That was about the best 9MM I've ever fired. It's an equal to the Sig P226.
 
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