Finish reaming K22s, or, How To Solve Difficult Extraction In .22lr S&Ws

Yes, that's what I'm saying, exactly. The point is that the tight freebore ahead of the chamber is the major part of what affects accuracy, and this is unchanged by reaming.

??? Am I missing something? I have the Manson revolver specific reamer. It pilots off the throat and does NOT cut the throat. It does cut the chamber and tapers that cut into the existing throat diameter. I've polished down the pilot diameter on a mine a couple .0001's to accommodate the smallest throat I've encountered. Reamed chambers retain pre-reamed throat diameters.
 
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Thanks for this thread PzKfW5. I'm about to order the items you listed. It is aggravating shooting 12 - 18 rounds and having to "beat" out the empties. I may be leaning on you and others for a little advice.
 
I did the reaming on my pre-model K22 Combat Masterpiece this summer, with the guidance and advice of some old hands here on this thread. Worked like a charm, and today my empties push right out with the extractor and are only the slightest bit "sticky" now.

Your experience might be similar to mine when you do this on your revolver: the reamer must have taken out microscopic chips, because there were no metal flakes at all from the cutting. Maybe I was just lucky that my chambers were close enough to size that the reamer just rounded things up and those few thousandths of undersize disappeared easily.

Now I have the reamer, handle, and cutting oil to do the job next time, if I run into this problem again. :D
 
I was asked as to the procedure to complete this job, so I'll go out on a limb here for all the adventurous/frustrated people with one of these guns, which really are super quality pieces otherwise. Let's put it this way, it's better to have too much steel in the cylinder, and then be able to correct it, than to have too little to start with. :cool:

The procedure is really straightforward. The key is to go slowly and carefully understand what you're doing with the reamer. You are enlarging the chamber diameter and depth within each cylinder charging hole to SAAMI sporting spec, but you are NOT cutting the recess for the cartridge rim. You might square up the recess a bit, but that's optional and if done incorrectly gets into headspace issues, so I'm not going to deal with it here. Suffice to say, follow the instructions below and you should be fine. If you muck it up by not being careful/being a Bubba, well, I have to refer you to the ancient Greek saying, "know thyself". If you have mechanical aptitude, this is a piece of cake, but some people just don't have that. So, Know Thyself before attempting. I disavow any responsibility for hamfistedness. That said, truly it's really very easy. :cool:

First off, you need to keep the extractor in place for all this, and you need to make sure that the extractor and the extractor recess in the cylinder are completely clean, and that it is sitting as flush with the cylinder as it should be. The extractor will be enlarged by the reamer right along with the rest of the chamber hole. Thus, it behooves you to make double sure the whole area is clean, and that you keep the extractor in its proper position throughout the procedure. To ensure the extractor was secure in the rotatory dimension, I used three fired cases and put them in the chambers I wasn't working on at the moment to secure the extractor from any rotation wiggle while cutting on the chambers.

OK. All that said, we're really doing something very simple, and that is to use the existing chamber diameter to self-center the reamer (at the mouth of the chamber - at the throat, it's the pilot) and then to slowly grind metal in a very controlled and measured manner out of the existing chamber.

I am going to assume you know how to correctly remove the cylinder from the revolver to start with. If you don't, you should find out how before even beginning to attempt this.

To start the procedure, chuck the removed cylinder securely using a non-marring method. I used poly inserts on my vice, coated with a paper towel. Your technique for this may vary, but you need to accomplish a similar thing with securing the cylinder.

Once you have secured the cylinder, you simply give the charging hole and reamer a coat of cutting oil, and place the reamer carefully within the charging hole. Begin to turn the reamer CLOCKWISE ONLY with light to moderate downwards pressure. Every 3 or so complete turns of the reamer, remove it WHILE TURNING CLOCKWISE and clean the flutes, add more oil, repeat until the reamer is almost bottomed out against the cartridge rim recess in the cylinder. Then once more clean the reamer, reinsert and keep a careful close eye on the cutting "lip" of the reamer as you turn the final few turns. Once it begins to touch down on the cartridge recess, stop pressing down, give it a few final light turns to complete the cut, remove and clean. I found it helpful to use a little dykem around the charging holes to show where the reamer was touching down. Once you've given the final few turns with little to no downwards pressure, making sure to avoid cutting on the cartridge recess, you're done. Move on to the next charging hole, clean, lube, and repeat until cylinder done.

Once all chambers are done, fill a small bowl with acetone and give the cylinder a good washing, then give it a good oiling and clean out the chambers. Admire your precision work and easy extraction. :cool:
 
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A little late to the party

Just read this thread and want to thank all who helped to make it one of the most informative topics for me. I have just one question before I order the reaming tools. Are stainless steel revolvers also worthy candidates for cylinder reaming? Are there any pitfalls to cutting ss chambers? Thanks in advance...........
 
Me Too !

I just reamed 5 cylinders (22 LR) yesterday with the same Brownell's finish reamer. Two M17, two M617, and M18. The M18 was first, patience, lots of cutting oil, frequent cleaning are keys to success. Each M18 chamber took about 5 passes to finish because I only advanced 1/8" when reamer got harder to turn. I didn't want it binding. The M18 also has a bad barrel leading problem.

One of the M17 cylinders had been reamed by a previous owner. The 6-shot M617 cylinder was the "most difficult" to ream because of the amount of metal removed. The 10 shot M617 cylinder was the easiest because the chips were almost dust and the reamer never was hard to turn.

EDIT: Range Report
My five 22 LR revolvers were OK after reaming. 5 barrels were spotless after one pull of the Bore Snake, just like every chamber. The M18 fired 3 boxes of different 22 LR ammo to see if it would lead up. It didn't.

The range targets are four 3" bullseyes with scoring rings (reduced 25 yard bullseye targets) on a 24" x 48" sheet of paper. After shooting all the revolvers with different brands of ammo, I took a box of Aquila Super 22 LR and fired each gun at the same bullseye hung at 11 yards, than checked the target, and marked the misses.

Each gun had 4 or 5 of the shots in the orange center [3" group] and all of the shots were inside a 4" scoring ring. My conclusion was the reaming was successful for accuracy and ease of loading / ejecting cases. This 'accuracy' target was fired after 3 hours of shooting on a 90° indoor range. It's been warm in Georgia.

EDIT 5-17-20: I bought a M34-2 off GB, J-frame 22 LR snub with 2" barrel. I loaded it with Federal, Remington, CCI, and Aquila ammo. Cartridges dropped right in, empty cases fell out, accuracy was very good with no leading in the barrel. I think S&W got smarter or better. :D
 
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The model 18 and 617 cylinders must have been real tight. I have done all of mine and none removed much metal or got very sticky. But, patience and caution are good things when doing stuff like this. I think a lot of it has to do with where the reamer S&W was using was in its life cycle when it got to your cylinder. I wonder how many cylinders they figure a reamer is good for.
 
My Smith 18 is mildly too tight. A Taurus M94 I own is stupidly tight. I can see a reamer in my future. I plan to sell the Taurus, I lucked into the Model 18 ata great price after buying the Taurus. But I've hesitated to sell it in unusable condition.
 
I am glad this post came back to the top. I have a really nice model 34 J-frame that has been problematic with sticky brass. Thanks for the knowledge shared.
 
I’ve done all my Smith 22’s. These are excellent instructions. I am mostly mechanically inept but this worked well for me. Love the results.


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My Smith 18 is mildly too tight. A Taurus M94 I own is stupidly tight. I can see a reamer in my future. I plan to sell the Taurus, I lucked into the Model 18 ata great price after buying the Taurus. But I've hesitated to sell it in unusable condition.

Update - bought the Brownell's reamer. Did the Taurus. It was unusable, it now ejects very nicely. Two of the nine chambers had to be reamed twice. That makes no sense to me but it is true.

I did not destroy the Taurus, the Smith will be next.
 
Most likely you just smoothed out the cylinder holes the second time you made the pass. If you don’t progress very slowly with the procedure, the metal is taken away from the cylinder in a rougher fashion than it would otherwise be (because the bites per turn of the reamer are larger).
 
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I’ve got a 351C that I need to do this to. Just too frustrating to shoot in it’s present state, plus I’m afraid I’m going to bend the darned ejector rod every time I have to hammer the spent shells out.
 
As stated, keeping the cuter "clean" (withdrawing it and wiping down, NEVER turning backward, frequently) is the key to a good ream out. That, and plenty of cutting oil.
 
I just use an old toothbrush to clean the shavings out of the reamer, frequently, as stated above. If you let the chips build up, they will score the sides of the chamber. If you turn the reamer backwards (counter clockwise), it will dull the cutting edge.
 
H Richard went to great length to explain to me the process of reaming my pre 17 and 18 and I was considering doing it. A few weeks ago I thought I'd give my gunsmith a call and see what he would charge to do both for me at 60 buck per gun it just wasn't worth buying the reamer and doing the work myself so currently my gunsmith has them.
 
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