Model 41 and CCI sv ammo
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Quality control I'd say, but don't be deluded into thinking it is the only accurate .22 ammo. For years I used RWS R50.
Joe Hohmann
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When I got my model 41 20 years ago, it loved CCI sv. Now it does not, but it functions fine now with Remington Golden Bullet, which has a little extra kick. Rather than fooling around with the gun, I'll stick with the Remington.
I'm more concerned about all the jamming issues I've read about here for non CCI ammo as opposed to ideal accuracy. I was hoping to use up a lot of this old ammo in the 41 before buying more.
I have boxes of Squires Bingham sv, Navy Arms sv, Remington sv, The 3-D sv, Thuderbolt and Federal Hv. My understanding is to not feed it hv.
I have boxes of Squires Bingham sv, Navy Arms sv, Remington sv, The 3-D sv, Thuderbolt and Federal Hv. My understanding is to not feed it hv.
Never give a M41 HV ammo as all you do is Beat the gun up. CCI SV is the best ammo for the M41's in general. Is it possible your Dad had other 22 Handguns or rifles which he used the other brands in? The CCI SV is also the most acurerite in most of the M41-M46's as well.
My 41 is an outlier. It doesn't like CCI standard velocity at all. It jams terribly. Other ammo isn't any better, except Eley. Doesn't have to be Tenex, it's happy with the cheaper Target grade. But, it likes its Eley. So, that's what it gets.
Joe I was having the exact same problem last week after years of shooting CCI SV. I took a bore mop and wound a bit of gauze around it and wiped some Flitz on it and used my cordless drill to polish the chamber. Did about two rounds of that and now it's back to it's old self.
Well I took it to the range today. First time it has been fired in about 35 years so the ammo is at least that old. 250 rounds of Squires and a 100 of Remington. Not a single dud or failure to eject. Standard 50' pistol targets hit 7, 8, 9, 10s everytime I felt I didn't goof up.
All that said I did pay the range to clean it and both mags ahead of time. Gun is circa 1971, I am circa 1969 ��. I love this 41.
All that said I did pay the range to clean it and both mags ahead of time. Gun is circa 1971, I am circa 1969 ��. I love this 41.
tozan
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My 41 shoots anything i put in it... It is a 1959
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I agree with the use of standard velocity ammo in the model 41's but I do not agree that it has to be CCI. Most of mine will work on any standard velocity ammo. I only have a couple that only like CCI.
On another note I have a friend that has two model 41's and for the last five years he has shot nothing but high velocity ammo in both of them. Both of them work flawlessly all the time. I keep wondering when they are going to start to fail but they never do. Also he shoots a lot.
I wonder.
Graydog
I agree with the use of standard velocity ammo in the model 41's but I do not agree that it has to be CCI. Most of mine will work on any standard velocity ammo. I only have a couple that only like CCI.
On another note I have a friend that has two model 41's and for the last five years he has shot nothing but high velocity ammo in both of them. Both of them work flawlessly all the time. I keep wondering when they are going to start to fail but they never do. Also he shoots a lot.
I wonder.
Graydog
ho9sw How Right You Are in my Mind. I own box's of very old ammo and have witnessed the difference when shooting them. I also own a no. of bricks of newer ammunition like everybody else. Yes their is a Difference for sure.
Any M41 that does Not shoot CCI SV ammo has an issue which many owners over look at times. Crud and dirt gets into the weird places and does slow these guns down over time. Most M41 owners have had the best luck with the CCI SV ammo. Thats a stated fact on this forum.
I put 300 more old remington rounds through it today. 1 dud. Field stripped it tonite for first time and was shocked how easy it was. Saw two tiny specks in barrel, ran one dry patch and that was it.
Ran most targets out to 50' and did a bit better then yesterday. 14-3 revolver .38 was very good as well. Didn't do so hot with the Remington Rand1911a1, didn't dare to go beyond 15' but the big booms were fun. Not a collector, might sell that one for another, non-plastic classic shooter.
Ran most targets out to 50' and did a bit better then yesterday. 14-3 revolver .38 was very good as well. Didn't do so hot with the Remington Rand1911a1, didn't dare to go beyond 15' but the big booms were fun. Not a collector, might sell that one for another, non-plastic classic shooter.
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Most M41's love the CCI Standard Velocity 40 grain ammo - but it is quite possible there are a few out there that don't. Try some and see.
I also find that the CCI is the most accurate, highest quality Rimfire .22 and has the least amount of failures to ignite.
I also find that the CCI is the most accurate, highest quality Rimfire .22 and has the least amount of failures to ignite.
CCI is good, but for top drawer accuracy, it's Eley. Eley isn't cheap and it can be confusing as the seem to make 20 different types, but when precision is the goal, it's the best I've found.
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Is the Model 41 typically that "fussy" about ammo? Maybe I am better off sticking with the more tolerant, less expensive target pistols.
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I have 6 boxes, (4 different versions) of Eley ammo (green/yelow boxes, black box and red box) and for me they are totally inaccurate! I've tried them in pistols and rifles and was totally disappointed in their performance!
While I do not doubt that in certain pistols & rifles they do perform admirably, they don't for me out of any of my guns. That is why it is so important to test ammo in individual guns. I actually started to keep a log book with what loads and factory cartridges perform best out of a specific gun.
I don't think there's a general statement that applies to Mod 41s and ammo. Each gun seems to follow its own rules. I've shot Bullseye in several different leagues for nearly 40 years and I've seen dozens of 41s come and go. While it's true that most functioned well with CCI SV, others simply couldn't use it. Some guns (I have one of them, thankfully, though I retired it and switched to a Walther GSP some years ago) will work with anything, others seem to be extremely fussy and will work with only one or two brands. I've also seen others that never seemed to function reliably. The only thing to do is buy a box of as many different types of .22 ammo (SV, although like others I know guns that have been shot with HV for many years) as you can find (and are likely to find into the future) and try them for accuracy -precision, really - and function. And at the same time pray that you don't have a gun that only digests Eley Tenex unless you have a trust fund to dip into.
