MP COMPACT 9MM OR GLOCK 19

[Edmo]

Everyone needs to own at least one GLOCK 19...

Edmo

 

[drewm@p40]

I have a ma comp m@p 40 and they do come with 10.5 pound trigger and it is really heavy hand put thousand rounds thru this gun and the only flaw is the lousy trigger

 

[jdyer225]

I like the M&P better but they're both great guns and I wouldn't mind owning a glock 19. I've never found any of the M&P's to have a heavy trigger so I don't know.


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[redwood0_7]

Put a Apex sear and striker block in my 9c and brought triiger down to 4.5 lbs. Easy to do. No filing needed.

 

[wagostini]

I also have a MA M&P 40c and the crappy thing about it is the 10.5+ pound trigger. Other than that, the gun is flawless. My EDC is this 40c and I carry it in a Kydex holster. I am looking into getting the Apex trigger kit to lower it. If you dont live in MA, I do believe the trigger is about 6lbs, which is a lot nicer.

 

[phantom9]

The first handgun I ever shot was a Glock 19. I was familiar with target shooting and aiming down sights hand guns from my former days playing airsoft. (key in here, only the aiming and gripping experience, nothing else is remotely relevant).

Therefore, knowing what it was like watching a small bb dip and swerve as it slowly moved towards a target, I assumed a high velocity projectile would hit quicker and be more accurate. Well, when I shot the Glock I was deeply disappointed. I had a lot of trouble with keeping tight groupings, I'm talking at least 6" between closest shots.

About a year later I took a pistol class that taught me a lot about grip, stance, and aiming (this part I knew a lot about). The main difference, I was given an M&P to use this time. My first shots were all on target and I only missed a handful of times. Most of my shots were within 2 inches at 7 yards and a little more spread apart at 10, 15, and 20 yards. This gun seemed to shoot exactly where I was aiming.

Bottom line, I own a m&p 9c now because I fired both and loved one a heckuva lot more than the other. It felt great in my hand, it was natural aiming down sights, and I was confident with it. The trigger can be changed if that is the only thing you don't like. I have heard many triggers settle down after a fair amount of rounds passing through, but i have the apex DCAEK and love it.

 

[ivanwi11iams]

I had a Glock 19 4th Gen. I traded it and bought my M&P Shield 9mm. I should have kept my Glock. Albeit I like my Shield for CCW, I seem to shoot much better and even handle my Glock better than my Shield.

 

[skip4309]

I had a Glock 19 4th Gen. I traded it and bought my M&P Shield 9mm. I should have kept my Glock. Albeit I like my Shield for CCW, I seem to shoot much better and even handle my Glock better than my Shield.

Like edmo said, everyone needs at least one G19...

 

[sarge1967]

I have had a Glock 23 and a 4th Gen 19. They are fine weapons but I just don't like the natural point of aim with them. I now own an M&P FS 9 and a 9c. To me the M&P works far better. I have an Apex poly FSS kit in my FS and will be putting one in my 9c. That kit makes a HUGE difference!
Shoot what feels best to you.

 

[Bat Guano]

I'm not exactly a Glock fan. But the truth of the matter is that it's really no longer a revolver world (and I am a wheelgunner from way, way back).

I am big on reliability and shootability. I sprung for a Gen 4 19 a few months ago and found it much easier to shoot well than a 17 I had some years back. The smaller grip and improved texture fit me better, the double recoil spring seems to damp recoil somewhat, and the trigger I hated on the 17 is now quite manageable. I installed a set of XS tritium sights with the big golf ball front sight and the gun still shoots better than I can.

While I don't buy the "Glock Perfection" malarky, they do have an excellent track record and reputation for reliability. I am up to 700 plus rounds without any hiccups which is a good sign.

In all honesty I have only handled the various M&Ps and noted some of the feedback on them, but this works well for me--and I don't see anything out there that will serve me any better.

It IS ugly, but it spends 99% of its time holstered or on the bureau, so I don't have to look at it all that much away.

To each his own.

 

[Arik]

I'm a Glock fan. My carry is a 19. I tried to like M&P but couldn't. Their biggest grip insert was too wide in the back compared to the thinner grip up front. I had all the FS models and none did anything for me. They were a bit Bleh. The compact were too compact. Grip was too short and reminded me of the Glock 26/27, which I also don't like due to how short the grip is. The Glock fits me, points naturally and never had problems or need to upgrade anything but the sights. And in the end it was like having a Glock and something that didn't know what it wanted to be but leaned towards Glock

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[Rpg]

No question, Glock factory triggers are superior.

Glocks are also associated with more ad/nd s than the S&W


There are many more Glocks out there, and no one I'm aware of has done an appropriate analysis to determine if the difference is significant.

No firearm is fool proof.

However, if you aren't going to learn the manual of arms of your pistol, get good training and practice at home and on the range, then you're better off with the S&W.

It is not a superior firearm, but may be better suited to you.

Just my opinion, of course.

 

[marathonrunner]

trigger

I have had a Glock 23 and a 4th Gen 19. They are fine weapons but I just don't like the natural point of aim with them. I now own an M&P FS 9 and a 9c. To me the M&P works far better. I have an Apex poly FSS kit in my FS and will be putting one in my 9c. That kit makes a HUGE difference!
Shoot what feels best to you.

I am reluctant to put a Apex trigger for the simple fact I put a Pyraimid trigger in my G34 and while it is so light, it also does not detonate each round chambered all the time. Only happens maybe 1 out of 100 rounds but still. That is too many light primer strikes for me. I also hear for CCW it is not a good idea.

 

[sarge1967]

I have had no issues with light primer strikes with my FS with the FSS kit installed. The FSS kit does not change out the striker spring. It does change the sear and trigger springs though.

 

[AGoyette]

I have a total of 5 M&P pistols (I also own 2 M&P AR's). All of them have Apex parts in them in one form or another. The filing of the frame that was mentioned earlier is with the Apex aluminum trigger. That trigger is a royal pain to install. The Apex polymer trigger is so much easier to install than the aluminum one. No filing needed. On the one gun that does have the aluminum trigger, I thought that we were going to have to do some filing, but taking it out and reinstalling it made it work better. As to light primer hits. I have heard of them when playing with the striker spring. Our C.O.R.E. did have the Apex competition kit in it when we bought it. It was nothing but trouble. We replaced it with the FSS kit and it is now as flawless as our other guns. I have only had light primer hits on two guns. One was my 5" Pro. One out of 100-150 rounds was a light primer hit. Talked to Apex and they determined that I had an old style USB. They sent me a new one gratis and I sent back the old one in a prepaid package. The only other time was recently, I had massive issues with my 9c and light primer hits. It ended up being a very dirty striker channel. All of our M&P handguns now have had their striker channels cleaned. Once I cleaned the striker channel on my 9c, it was back to being flawless. BTW, on our two carry guns (both 9c's) we have Apex DCAEK (duty/carry) kits in them with Apex polymer triggers and on the 2 Pro's and the C.O.R.E. we have the FSS kits in them. One of the Pro's has the aluminum trigger and the other two the polymer trigger.

 

[checkmyswag]

I just replaced the sear in mine with the Apex sear and for about $50 it is a great improvement. Yes the full Apex treatment is even better but also much more expensive and hard to install. Also, especially on a carry gun I dont want to have to tweak anything more than is necessary.

 

[Ratfink2u]

Shoot the piss out of'er! About 500-700 rounds will help that trigger. MHO

 

[hardluk1]

never mind Old tread .

 

[dipperdave]

I was bored of buying Glock Pistols but do like the fact nobody has ever complained bitterly about Glock's trigger.

Well, that's the first time I've ever read anything like that about a Glock trigger, although you did say "complained bitterly" rather than just complained.

In fact, the trigger, grip "hump" and cheap sights are the most complained about features of the Glock handgun design on about every shooting forum I've ever frequented including the Glock forums. I have no idea how many different companies make Glock replacement triggers, or trigger parts, but there a number of them. And the Glock fanbois always tout the huge number of replacement parts as a desirable feature of the Glock, which I've never understood. If a Glock is so perfect why do so many people replace so many parts on their Glocks?

I'm a Glock fan and a 20+ year Glock owner of numbers of different sizes and models in four different calibers. But, never a fanboi since I'm not brand loyal to any gun company and am very reality based about what I see as the shortcomings of the Glock handgun.

I'm not sure how many Glock 19s I've owned over those years, but I've owned various ones since shortly after they were introduced and I've carried G19s more over the years than any other handgun. It's been a good model for me.

I've now had my 2.0 Compact in 9mm over a year and don't really know how many hundreds of rounds I've shot through it, but I shoot it a bunch and I like it a lot.

In fact, were it not for the years accumulation of G19 magazines, holsters and various spare parts I would just sell the two Glock 19s and buy another 2.0 Compact.

So to answer you question "Did you guys look at the Glock 19 before buying the MP Compact"? Yeah, years worth of looking and using. I like my Glock 19s, but I like the 2.0 compact a little better.

OP, I wouldn't put much stock in any magazine article. Gun writers are just people and they often have their own prejudices and bias toward or against some handguns. In the case of the article which said the 2.0 has a lousy trigger I would say that author got a bad sample gun or is just plain full of it. My trigger is not lousy and in fact is better than any stock Glock trigger I've owned. As always, the words like good, better, best or lousy are subjective and difficult to quantify.

Since you've already bought it I hope your 2.0 turns out well for you.

 

[murphydog]

In the almost 5 years since the original post, the OP has moved on to Sig vs. Beretta vs. Glock 43 vs. Walther PPS vs. CZ P-10, with a few references to the Tavor thrown in. Not clear if he still has the 9c 1.0 that started all this...