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geoff40
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"The only good snake is a dead snake."
It's like a spider-phobia for men. I don't get it, never have, never will.
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It's like a spider-phobia for men. I don't get it, never have, never will.
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Saltwater striper (or rockfish as I grew up calling them in Maryland) are delicious, one of my favorites, but I was wondering about the fresh water version, so thanks for asking.
When I was a kid, they were a dime a dozen and l caught lots of 1-3 pounders off local boat docks in brackish water around Baltimore. Then they disappeared for decades and are now in a comeback, but the salt water variety now goes for about $20.00/lb at the grocery here in central Virginia.
amazingflapjack
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What the book said...
This is fun. The book says that an eastern diamond back should be about 5 feet- give or take-but I killed the biggest one I have ever seen, outside Florida, where they can be almost dragons- in N.E. Georgia, and it was about 6 1/2 feet long, but the best part was how big he was around-huge-gave him 2 rounds of 00-I don't eat snake.
This is fun. The book says that an eastern diamond back should be about 5 feet- give or take-but I killed the biggest one I have ever seen, outside Florida, where they can be almost dragons- in N.E. Georgia, and it was about 6 1/2 feet long, but the best part was how big he was around-huge-gave him 2 rounds of 00-I don't eat snake.
Fishinfool
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Copper Heads and Rattlers up here in the mountains. Both seem to like rocky hill sides, and crossing dirt roads. Have run over a few myself. Sat on a pile of rocks up in the state forest one time, eating my lunch. Happened to look down at my feet, and seen a coiled rattler watching me from about 3 feet away. He never rattled. I was debating if I should shoot him with my sidearm when he slithered away. It worked out for both of us.
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CAJUNLAWYER
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I have been caught by that caudal luring thing several times late at night The copperheads were the worst but the little dark haired ones could be a handfull too
The Copperhead and Cottonmouth are of the same species - Agkistrodon, just cousins of different sub-species. My very old reference books show the records for Copperheads range from 32 - 53 inches, depending on sub-sub species, and the records for Cottonmouths range from 55 - 75 inches. Records are often taken from captive specimens, so they generally are bigger than field specimens. Juveniles of both are born with the yellow tail tips, but in my area of North Texas the Cottonmouth juvs will have color that is closer to green than yellow.
Reaction here..............SNAKE-----BANG, Maybe------BANG BANG..........Then see what kind it was.
"The only good snake is a dead snake."
It's like a spider-phobia for men. I don't get it, never have, never will.
Aint that the truth. All of this fear and loathing for an animal that only wants 4 things out of life:
1 - To be left alone
2 - To eat mice
3 - To make little snakes
4 - To be left alone
Texas Star
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You are confusing genus with species. Agkistrodon is the correct genus for both, but they are distinct species.
The mocassin is A. piscivorous and the copperhead is A. contortrix. No, I didn't have to look that up. Having this vital knowledge in my head and some ten dollars will get me a cup of coffee almost anywhere in the USA!
The young look much alike, but from birth, the moccasin has a more virulent venom.
Our actual biologists here, Bear Bio and patvince, may add more. The latter is a herpetologist.
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Correct - I do get sloppy with the genus / species / etc - out of practice too many years. I would love to see either of our herps, or any for that matter, take any of a sample of our North Texas Copperheads, with a key, and try to determine exactly what species is now well established in our area. Unless a new species has been recognized in the last few years, what we have is a combination of three species that their home ranges combine here. I doubt that it would be possible to find a pure of anything thanks to many years of interbreeding. Great PHD target there.
gman51
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I walked into my shed and for some reason I looked up. That's when I saw this snake skin spanning from one roof truss to another and even hanging down from both ends. Today I decided to take a picture of it and today it was now hanging from one end and the middle. This had to have been close to a three foot snake. I just wonder how many times was I in the shed while it was shedding that long skin. Strange I never looked up to see it when it was shedding the skin.
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i dont care for copperheads at all,,, have had a few close calls,,,,, personally i dont kill snakes unless i have to,,,,, i have a 5 foot black snake that stays around my house,,,, he comes up on the front porch once in a while,,, i dont bother him at all,,, guess he is saying hi,,,,,,, and the reason i wont kill him,,,,, i have only seen2 mice in 1 1/2 yeears here and i live way out in the county,, i have a big barn and garage with mice but none in the house and no sign of them,,, this guy is better then a cat,,,
Doug M.
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I generally do not begrudge wild critters their wild lives. I also generally don't knowingly go where I might encounter and annoy one. The good news about bigger critters with 4 legs is that they are somewhat easier to spot.
In the Bible it says the snake will bite the man's heel and the man will trod upon his head. Interesting the snake was only one of 2 animals that talked in the Bible. It enticed Eve with the apple. God cursed it and said it shall crawl on it's belly forever.
I used to hunt down black snakes back east on the farm. Put 'em in the barn and the granary . Chickens were in the barn. corn etc in the granary. Kept mice and rats corraled. Also made sure we had a few garter snakes esp towards the end of summer. The eat the heck out of grasshoppers and crickets. Found one under the apple tree one year that was so full of crickets he couldn't slither around. Haven't had a RS near the house all year....hope I didn't jinx myself writing that
Easy around here, as every snake seen, "It was a copperhead!"
Even when you show them that it wasn't, they still believe it was.
If your Easterns had the sorry attitudes our Westerns have, You'd have serious problems.
Easterns are the baddest snakes in North America. Period.
My brother down in Aiken used to have them. Killed two 6-footers a few years ago in his yard, but hasn't seen any in a few years. Thankfully, their range ends south of here.
But plenty of nasty, mean copperheads around. They aren't rational. They'll fight when the don't have to. They'd rather bite you than slither away.
My brother down in Aiken used to have them. Killed two 6-footers a few years ago in his yard, but hasn't seen any in a few years. Thankfully, their range ends south of here.
But plenty of nasty, mean copperheads around. They aren't rational. They'll fight when the don't have to. They'd rather bite you than slither away.
