Interesting new Jeep in the works

I'll stick with my TJ too, only posting a shot so I can update it soon after my new wheels and tires go on! Hopefully this coming weekend as long as the tires come in. My 17x8.5 Vision one-piece aluminum wheels and BF Goodrich KO-2, 285/70/R17 raised white lettering going on. I'll update ASAP.
 

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The best all round Jeep in my opinion is the TJ Jeep Rubicon!

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Too much "Bigfoot" for my tastes too...
Too "Bigfoot"? As in the tires are too big?

For a pavement pounder, maybe, but not for offroad they aren't. For stock those look decent, but for serious offroad, most people would end up going even bigger. Now if it's just for on-pavement driving, then maybe they're a little big. But why buy a Jeep if it's not leaving the pavement? Any little SUV will do for snowy pavement duty.

I still say I want one of the diesel Mahindras. In areas where side-by-sides are legal on the road, one of those babies would be AWESOME!
 
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Too "Bigfoot"? As in the tires are too big?

For a pavement pounder, maybe, but not for offroad they aren't. For stock those look decent, but for serious offroad, most people would end up going even bigger. Now if it's just for on-pavement driving, then maybe they're a little big. But why buy a Jeep if it's not leaving the pavement? Any little SUV will do for snowy pavement duty.

I still say I want one of the diesel Mahindras. In areas where side-by-sides are legal on the road, one of those babies would be AWESOME!

As in tires are too big and the body is too high over them.

This thing could go almost anywhere(and it went:D) using an anemic 60 hp flathead four. And it sure is not bigfooted.

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As in tires are too big and the body is too high over them.

This thing could go almost anywhere(and it went:D) using an anemic 60 hp flathead four. And it sure is not bigfooted.

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Yeah, that maybe went anywhere the WWII GIs were interested in going. But I guarantee you that with those little wheels & tires and limited suspension it can't go the places I take my 1996 Jeep Cherokee in Moab Utah at the Easter Jeep Safari.
I've seen them try...
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None of these are pictures of my Jeep, but they are comparable builds and mine has been over all these obstacles - and more - on 5" of lift and 33" tires.

And BTW, the Cherokee is considered one of the LEAST capable of modern Jeeps - but that little stock WWII flat fender wouldn't even come close to keeping up in these kind of serious offroading environments...
 
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Tires? There is no perfect tire for both on-road and off-road...
if you want a tire that's great on-road, you must give up it's off-road capability... the same is true if you want great off-road tires.

You want to have some real fun! Put a 6"+ lift kit in a CJ5 and add some 15X38.5X15 tires... take a trip down the highway at 50mph+... it will swap lanes without even moving the steering wheel! If you slam on the breaks running over 50mph on wet pavement, you may enter a world you didn't know was possible! But, it may be great off road?

A Jeep needs to match what conditions you drive the most!
 
Tires? There is no perfect tire for both on-road and off-road...
if you want a tire that's great on-road, you must give up it's off-road capability... the same is true if you want great off-road tires.

You want to have some real fun! Put a 6"+ lift kit in a CJ5 and add some 15X38.5X15 tires... take a trip down the highway at 50mph+... it will swap lanes without even moving the steering wheel! If you slam on the breaks running over 50mph on wet pavement, you may enter a world you didn't know was possible! But, it may be great off road?

A Jeep needs to match what conditions you drive the most!

Absolutely. FWIW the ones on the new red Jeep above look like they're about 33" - which is a pretty good compromise. I'm sure they are capable of good on-road manners or they wouldn't be factory. They also look just big enough and aggressive enough for some pretty good offroad duty.
 
Yeah, that maybe went anywhere the WWII GIs were interested in going. But I guarantee you that with those little wheels & tires and limited suspension it can't go the places I take my 1996 Jeep Cherokee in Moab Utah at the Easter Jeep Safari.
I've seen them try...
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None of these are pictures of my Jeep, but they are comparable builds and mine has been over all these obstacles - and more - on 5" of lift and 33" tires.

And BTW, the Cherokee is considered one of the LEAST capable of modern Jeeps - but that little stock WWII flat fender wouldn't even come close to keeping up in these kind of serious offroading environments...

Well. That is radical.
 
Wish I still had my old 3 with iron flatty. Slow but with the 513 or 613 gears cant remember which, went every where. Frooozze my butt off even with an insulated aluminum cab swear the engine never got even warm. Would buy the new one if its under 30.000, but not likely. Nice Jeeps every body.
 
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I just wonder how all electric could take all the jostle and pounding in terrain like in the above pictures.
I wonder will the price for all electric or diesel be way over 40 grand? The new Jeep p/ups are more than that I think.
I just can't see people buying 4 wheel drive but seldom if ever drive other than on concrete roads. Unless a 4 wheel drive has huge oversize tires then the undercarriage will get stuck real quick in deep mud. I saw that at a truck mud contest. Regular 4x4 pickups got stuck real quick. Got to have height and wide tires or get stuck.
 
I just wonder how all electric could take all the jostle and pounding in terrain like in the above pictures.
I wonder will the price for all electric or diesel be way over 40 grand? The new Jeep p/ups are more than that I think.
I just can't see people buying 4 wheel drive but seldom if ever drive other than on concrete roads. Unless a 4 wheel drive has huge oversize tires then the undercarriage will get stuck real quick in deep mud. I saw that at a truck mud contest. Regular 4x4 pickups got stuck real quick. Got to have height and wide tires or get stuck.
Probably not very well. There are professionals that compete in what are known as rock crawling competitions (races). Basically timed competitions over terrain that is even more radical and extreme than the stuff in the photos I posted.

If the all electric vehicles could handle it then the professional rock crawlers would be building them that way. To the best of my knowledge nobody is. They build them with diesels, but no electrics.

And you are right about soft sand, deep mud, and deep water. All are all good examples of other offroad conditions that require taller tires with some "flotation" and a vehicle with the body and frame being lifted higher off the ground in order for the vehicle to successfully make it through. Here in the great NW there are lots of the latter two.

BTW, below is a photo of me in my first Jeep crossing the Golden Crack - same obstacle shown in the very first photo I posted above (just a different location - the crack is miles long), and a picture of my most recent Jeep build. The black panels on the sides aren't paint - they are 1/8" thick armor plate.
 

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I don't know about radical but that is what I was talking about when I said serious offroading.
What were you talking about when you said go almost anywhere - rough, washed-out dirt roads? :D :confused:

Yes, mostly. Basically what they were originaly designed for.
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