Some People Never Change.

I dunno...maybe I'm morbid, but I don't think so. At least I hope not. It's just that I really like it when a story like Charlie shared turns out that way. I'd like to think that all people have some good in them, but the longer I'm alive, I'm finding out that's not necessarily the case. There are some folks out there that are just a waste of human flesh.
 
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Hi Charlie.

Thanks. The experiences you share certainly are enlightening. Some are quite entertaining and some aren't, but I seem to learn something important from those too.

And

Thanks to all those who wear the badge to make this world fit for decent people. Please know that some of us out here hold the job you do in the deepest reverence. God Bless You All.
 
Talk about people never learning, I made an arrest of a very old man back in 1972 for using a forged check at a casino. A records check showed that his first arrest was for “fornicating in the street” in Chicago in the early 1920s! He had been a violent criminal during his 20s to 40s, but as he grew older he moved to non-violent crimes like burglary and check fraud. I tried to calculate how much he had cost taxpayers over the years in both investigative costs as well as prison time. It must have been in the millions of dollars. Just as some people never learn, it seems neither does the legal system.
 
I was an ER Nurse for many years before a work related injury forced me out of the profession. One night, EMS brought in a large teen aged male who was trying to break into someone's house. The homeowner, an elderly gentleman who EMS also brought in because of complaints of chest pain, told me he heard the teen prying his window open. The homeowner was holding a single shot 12 gauge shotgun with a round of 7.5 birdshot (dove load) in the chamber. He said he knew he only had one chance and didn't want to miss, so he waited until the teen was halfway into the house (his hands were on the deck and his thighs balanced on the windowsill), when the homeowner pushed the barrel of the shotgun into his flank and pulled the trigger. The gunshot resulted in a terrific wound and stopped any hostility with the one shot. We stabilized the teen and rushed him to the OR. He was lucky in that the surgeon on call was a former Green Beret combat medic who went on to earn his M.D. The OR crew worked hard and saved the teen's life. (BTW, the old homeowner stayed overnight for observation and was released to home the next morning.)

The small town hospital I worked in did not have the resources or trained staff to care for someone in such a tenuous state, so we arranged transport for him to John Sealy Hospital in Galveston, TX as soon as possible. Frankly, most of our ER and OR staff gave him no more than 30% chance of survival, and after a while, we thought no more about him.

Fast forward a few years later and one night, one of the local LEOs pulled up to the ambulance bay and asked someone to get me to come out to his car. As I approached his unit, I could see he had a prisoner handcuffed in the back of his car. The LEO took the prisoner out of the backseat and asked me to if I could recognize him. The prisoner was a large framed, but very thin young man. I didn't recognize him, but the prisoner recognized me and said "I remember you, you saved my life a few of years ago". He then awkwardly (his hands were cuffed behind his back) pulled up his T-shirt and exposed a mass of surgical scars on his abdomen, and a large gunshot wound scar on his flank. Yep, it was the teen aged house burglar.

The LEO told me he was driving by a convenience store when he spotted a small group of guys hanging around in a dark corner of the parking lot. At his approach, all of the guys in the group ran off leaving the kid. When the LEO approached him, he said he was standing awkwardly, and as he was searching him, he found the kid was standing on top of a cheap .25ACP pistol, and admitted he and his friends were planning on robbing the store.

I was stunned, and I looked at the kid and asked if he hadn't learned anything from his previous experience? That didn't he realize how many people had worked and prayed trying to save his life? I was just devastated! The kid looked at me and said "Sorry - I just had to do it."

Yeah, some of you guys had it right, some people never change. Sorry for the long tale, but I thought it was relevant.

Regards,

Dave
 
I remember my "run ins" with the law. I guess I am a repeat offender. The first time was about 50 years ago, (give or take a few years), I was stopped for having a headlight out on the old Volkswagen beetle we had. Got a warning ticket, turned out to be a loose fuse. The next time I was going home from work in my old 1950 Ford pickup, when a Highway Patrolman stopped me for driving erratically. No ticket, there was a lot of play in the steering wheel, and he told me to stay close to the edge of the road and not to run into anybody. Then I ran a traffic light, going home from work, I was guilty and told him so, I did get a warning ticket that time.
Last but not least, 1996 in NE Texas. We were out there on a genealogy trip, looking for kinfolk, both dead and alive. I didn't slow down between towns and a policeman stopped me. Another warning ticket. Twenty three years ago, I am trying to go straight. :-)

Have a blessed day,

Leon
 
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Some people don't change and some do.

I have witnessed both.
But day in and day out, over the long term, the single best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

If you meet your significant other in a bar while she/he is married to someone else, don't be sniveling a few years down the road when you find out he/she drinks and cheats.
 
Back around 2003 I was an investigator with the local Sheriff's Department. I started getting reports of stolen credit cards. Soon a pattern developed and I determined that someone inside one of the local post offices had to be stealing the cards. I contacted a postal inspector, told him what I had, and he set up cameras in the mail sorting room. I soon got my credit card bill and noticed that someone had purchased two camcorders with my card! I went to Wally World to look at video and their system was down that day and had no pictures. I checked stores where some of the other cards had been used and they had good video and I recognized the perp. His nickname was Rusty. I had dealt with Rusty before and he had recently been in our jail and was currently out on bond for credit card fraud. About the same time the postal inspector called me and told me had caught a girl stealing the cards. She was giving them to Rusty. The postal inspector interviewed the girl and she told him a different name than the guy who was actually using the cards. He didn't charge her at the time on condition she flip the perp. She didn't do it. I filed charges on Rusty and got warrants. A few weeks later a guy I had dealt before with shows up at the Sheriff's Office wanting me to help him with a minor felony his girlfriend hand been charged with. I knew that at one time she had dated Rusty. I talked with her and told her if she could help me get my hands on him I would try to help her. Two days later she called me and said he was headed to Hattiesburg and that he was driving a white stolen Ford Explorer and that he had some stolen guns. She told me where he was coming from so I headed out there and waited for him. I wasn't there long when he drove past. I was in an unmarked car but he figured out what I was and took off. I chased him for a couple of miles and he drove into a parking lot at an industrial complex not realizing there was one way in and one way out. I saw him turn around in the parking lot and he headed straight for me speeding up. I blocked the exit with my car and got my shotgun out. He had a girl with him and I could see her screaming as he sped toward me. If it had just been him in the Explorer I probably would have shot him through the windshield but I didn't want to hurt her. It would have been a good shoot because he was committing an assault with a deadly weapon on an officer. At the last second he stopped. As I got him out of the Explorer with some persuasion from the riot gun as backup units started arriving. We cuffed him and her and took them to jail. She was the girl who had been fired for stealing the credit cards. Rusty was charged with multiple felonies and the feds took the case and sentenced him to three years in federal prison. She got a couple of years probation. I interviewed Rusty after the arrest and he told me if she had not been there he would have killed me. I'm not sure how he would have done this being that I was a microsecond from pulling the trigger on the shotgun, but that is what he said. I later found out that the girl had thrown out several stolen guns while I was chasing him.

A few years after this incident a fellow officer came up to me with some video copy of a guy using a stolen credit card at a gas station and asked me if I knew him. It was Rusty. Thirty minutes later we had him cuffed and back in Jail. This time he went through the state system and got ten years. I didn't know he had been released from prison. People like him are one of the reasons I stay armed, even on my tractor and lawnmower. Last Sunday at around 2:00 p.m. Rusty committed his last crime. He tried the same old trick at one of the local shopping centers and the merchant called the local police. As the officer arrived Rusty ran from the store. The officer gave chase and when Rusty pulled out a gun the officer was a little faster. Rusty died from gunshot wounds on the way to the hospital. I don't know the officer. I wouldn't mention his name if I did. However I do know the officer's Dad and frequently worked with him back in my days with the local PD.

You would think he would had learned the second time.
 
I’m glad that in Rusty’s case(last) good defeated evil. I’d much rather have a dead career criminal than a dead LEO. Rusty placed his bet and he lost. Adios.
 
Charlie,

Thanks for the story. It sounds like your man died of natural causes.....natural to the course of his life. I am glad the good guys came out ahead on that one.

We had a local yute who owned a crotch rocket type of motorcycle. It was faster than he could handle in most cases. The license plate was mounted above the rear wheel where it was legal, but not really readable when the bike was moving faster than the surrounding traffic. The kid had sense enough to wear a helmet, not out of a sense of self preservation, but as a means to prevent any pursuing officer from identifying him after a chase. We had several officers chase him numerous times.....city Marshal, county Sheriff, Highway Patrol. He was just too fast and caused the officers and their supervisors to terminate the pursuits before any civilian casualties could be caused. He sped, they chased, they got called off. All of the local guys knew the bike, they knew where he lived, they knew his parents, and the had numerous conversations with his family trying to curtail his penchants for high speed pursuits. One day, we were all sitting around the firehouse listening to the SO radio channel (ours as well) when we heard the start of a pursuit. Within seconds we heard the bike tearing past the station and through town on our 5 lane highway. He was well over a 100 in our 45mph city with one of our county's finest right behind him. Our deputy had a fairly new Tahoe with the biggest V-8 that GM offered and he was keeping pretty close to the bike. They turned up a larger highway and headed towards the big city and they really got rolling. The Tahoe would only go about 123 so the deputy cut off his lights and was still following. The bike turned onto a somewhat large, but still rural highway and headed out of town again, the deputy stayed with him. We were all just waiting to hear the LT or CAPT cut it off, but only the deputy was on the radio calling out positions. Less than a minute later the deputy called the pursuit terminated and asked for the FD, EMS and to put Air Life in route. We all knew that something bad had happened. We loaded four trucks with men and headed that way even before the dispatcher could get it out on the radio. We did not know what happened, but figured that it probably was going to be ugly. A short drive later,we arrived.

Our deputy had been topped out in his Tahoe, but was still really on top of the bike. He had lost sight of the bike as it went over a small hill. As the deputy topped the hill, he could only see smoke and knew that something had gone terribly wrong and locked up the brakes to avoid being part of the casualties. He slid within inches of hitting the now stopped bike.

As we topped the hill, we saw the Tahoe, a gooseneck trailer carrying a large Bobcat and an assortment of tools being towed by a crew cab 4x4 pickup truck. The truck and trailer had been turning left across the highway when the bike hit the trailer's tandem axles at over 100 mph. There was not much left of the rider, but his head was still in the helmet. We checked with the truck's occupants and they were 100% OK, but had no idea what happened, we checked on the deputy and he was 100% OK, but shaken by the prospect of what could have been his fate if he had not been on top of what was transpiring. We went to check on the MC rider, and decided that there was nothing that we could do. We cancelled EMS and Air life and asked for the JP.

We spent the next 4 hours with the Highway Patrol, the Sheriff's investigators, and the JP trying to get everything photographed and cleaned up. About 30 minutes after the initial wreck, the young man's parents and family starting showing up at the wreck. The were very boisterous and aggressive towards the LE contingent, they wanted to know how their beloved son deserved this fate - The JP who was called to pronounce the man DRT had to intervene with the family. His words have stuck with me and were even used a in movie about western lawmen. He told the family that their son had died a natural death, natural to the course of his life. The family did not appreciate those words and eventually got nasty enough to be escorted away from the scene.

I guess that some people and maybe even some families never learn.

Thanks to all of the 1st responders who act to help all of us every day, regardless of uniform or agency, may the new year be safe and may you return home safely at the end of your shift/day.
 
Some people Never Change.
Charlie, Thanks for another great story.

I want to note, on the flip side of the coin, there are lots of Good people who never change, as well. I wish we hear more about them.

I know it's a little early, but I want to wish everyone here a Happy and Rewarding New Year:D. Remember we are starting the Roaring 20's all over again.

Cheers,

Fred
 
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We spent the next 4 hours with the Highway Patrol, the Sheriff's investigators, and the JP trying to get everything photographed and cleaned up. About 30 minutes after the initial wreck, the young man's parents and family starting showing up at the wreck. The were very boisterous and aggressive towards the LE contingent, they wanted to know how their beloved son deserved this fate - The JP who was called to pronounce the man DRT had to intervene with the family. His words have stuck with me and were even used a in movie about western lawmen. He told the family that their son had died a natural death, natural to the course of his life. The family did not appreciate those words and eventually got nasty enough to be escorted away from the scene.

I guess that some people and maybe even some families never learn.

For the bit I highlighted, how did they know?:( Loose lips, and all that.

As for them getting boisterous (nice euphemism, BTW) I would have had all that deserved it tased and/or pepper sprayed and posted the video on Youtube as a lesson to others.

Guess you can tell why I'm not an LEO. :D
 
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