Protocall_Design
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In the video, it looks like the shooter is jerking the trigger the times it doesn't fire. Obviously a highly skilled shooter...
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He also accidentally lights one off looking over his shoulder at the camera confirming its recording the light strikes; at least he kept it pointed in a safe direction.In the video, it looks like the shooter is jerking the trigger the times it doesn't fire. Obviously a highly skilled shooter...
And later he looks down the barrel with the revolver in battery; just wasn't pretty to look at.
That said, a video worth adding to data and I give the dude credit for putting it out there.
The new Python has already had one recall, effected after it was sent to distributors/dealers but before it was officially announced and on the market. It was a change to the transfer bar system to issues with one ammo manufacturer's hard primers. The transfer bar wasn't letting enough energy transfer to light the rounds, so Colt decided to do a complete recall and update to the transfer bar so there'd be no issues with any brands of ammo, which I think is commendable.
I wonder if somehow either the recall didn't solve the problem, possibly worsened it, or if the Python from the video didn't get the update?
Alternately, it may be one of the inevitable lemons in an otherwise good run, or possibly evidence that Colt has a problem on its hands.
Too soon to tell...
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I think so. Another quote from the 1911 forum...dont know if that is true or not but that looks to me someone is clueless how to manufacture a 1/2 decent gun.
'As to pictures of some Pythons having nicks around the crown Colt has issued a statement that some crowns may have been nicked due to the jig they were mounted in for polishing. They have issued a statement apologizing to thier customers and said they have changed thier polishing mounts. They have also said anyone that has concerns about any marks on thier crown may contact them for a Return Authorization and an expedited return.'
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There is a giant Python 2020 thread on the Colt forum. Along about page 90 Colt Firearms Mfg joins in and discusses the issues with the muzzle crowns. They have identified the problem, fixed it, and are making the guns that went out with nicks right. It was nice to see them on a forum getting info out.
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I see...but that tells me everything right there...some clueless management approving SOPs to ramrod into the barrel for polishing...I mean...really.
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Colt's official acknowledgment over on ColtForum.com:
Dear Customers,
We are very sorry that the shipment of Python Revolvers that you received was defective. We understand your disappointment and appreciate the inconvenience this must have caused you.
There is no question that the product we shipped did not meet the very high standards our customers have come to expect and should continue to demand and receive without a doubt.
In our effort to improve the overall quality of our products, we have found the root cause that damaged the crown and immediately fixed this issue. We have since implemented strict Quality inspections to the production standards and can assure you that we are in the process of completing more thorough manufacturing and inspection. We can provide a reason for this issue and the solution if you deem necessary.
I can promise you that the highest quality standards will be met in the future because protecting our reputation for delivering the best product on the market is a key priority for us. Again, I apologize for our mistake and regret any inconvenience caused as a result.
We look forward to continuing the mutually beneficial relationship with our Customers.
Sincerely,
Colt Firearms MFG.
Dear Customers,
We are very sorry that the shipment of Python Revolvers that you received was defective. We understand your disappointment and appreciate the inconvenience this must have caused you.
There is no question that the product we shipped did not meet the very high standards our customers have come to expect and should continue to demand and receive without a doubt.
In our effort to improve the overall quality of our products, we have found the root cause that damaged the crown and immediately fixed this issue. We have since implemented strict Quality inspections to the production standards and can assure you that we are in the process of completing more thorough manufacturing and inspection. We can provide a reason for this issue and the solution if you deem necessary.
I can promise you that the highest quality standards will be met in the future because protecting our reputation for delivering the best product on the market is a key priority for us. Again, I apologize for our mistake and regret any inconvenience caused as a result.
We look forward to continuing the mutually beneficial relationship with our Customers.
Sincerely,
Colt Firearms MFG.
Maybe they will do better with the 4inch variants, I'm still pretty excited about and will buy it quality controlled or not... she may have to go back to her mothership we shall see, the marlin 1895sbl I have has go back 4 times so no worries hahah
Protocall_Design
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I will give them credit for stepping up and admitting there's a problem and doing something about it. Others, at times, have just said "it's within specs" and refused to address problems with their products.
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I can’t guess how many threads I’ve seen in the 14 years I’ve been on this forum that complain about S&W’s shortcomings, but I’m sure S&W never joined this forum and openly addressed the issues.
Good for Colt. They seem to really want to get this right, and that goes a long way.
Good for Colt. They seem to really want to get this right, and that goes a long way.
Yup, and if you look at the join date, it's this month -- Colt doing new things (for them) in customer outreach and issue acknowledgement. I hope it doesn't turn out to be an imposter (presumably the Colt forum admins check for this).
Just another thing I hope S&W is paying attention to -- engaging its most devoted customers on the forums -- beyond the fact that competition in the revolver game has significantly increased in recent years and in some respects passed them by...
sigp220.45
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Yep, and Colt is very active on Facebook responding to questions and complaints. I hope S&W is taking notes.
In the video, it looks like the shooter is jerking the trigger the times it doesn't fire. Obviously a highly skilled shooter...
He also needs a lesson in unloading and loading, especially with speed loaders.
+ eye protection.
Overall, good to hear about issues.
cowboy4evr
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It’s not unusual for early teething problems . Has everyone forgot about Rugers early problems with the first RedHawks They had barrels leaving the frame and flying down range during shooting sessions. Today the redhawk is a fine handgun and has been totally reliable for many years now . Sig had real teething problems with the early P380 . Today people are buying them and seem very happy . Harley Davidson had real problems with the first year (1936) knucklehead motors . In time they were mostly remedied and it remained in use through 1947 . The (evolution) motor made an early debut about 1984 . It too had early problems yet after those were fixed it remained the mainstay motor at HD for over 15 yrs . I have full confidence in Colt making fine handguns , regards Paul
I agree with this. It's a new gun. It's not unheard of a new gun has teething problems.
As we all know who've had this hobby a while, it is dangerous to be an early adopter no matter how tempting.
Why do I get the impression some people want this new gun to fail?
The gentleman above in the video clearly is an amateur at best, with a lack of PPE and negligent discharge to boot turned me off right away, he has 2 more videos as well and I always try to gather as much information as I can and form my own opinion.
From what I can see he may be short stroking the trigger maybe not. His immediate extraction of light primer strikes would have me air on the side of caution, I myself have had a light strike go off cylinder in/and out, and then had to change my shorts(school of hard knocks).
In his second video he explained his issues, simulating the problem( looks to me like short stroking the gun) how it locked up. I can do that on most o fmy Smith's and tie the gun up. I believe a machine is meant to run a certain way. Also in the video He's contacted colt(bashing them) reaching out threw social media DEMANDING somebody contact him immediately then being upset that he had to ship the same gun back for warranty work and he would not get a NEW replacement....
I think most of us have dealt with some sort of factory warranty work, past or present and IMO they want to make it right you should firs let them before you BASH them and the rude nonsense... for crying out loud somebody from colt reached out to him!! That's some first rate service.
Again all just IMO
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Erik
From what I can see he may be short stroking the trigger maybe not. His immediate extraction of light primer strikes would have me air on the side of caution, I myself have had a light strike go off cylinder in/and out, and then had to change my shorts(school of hard knocks).
In his second video he explained his issues, simulating the problem( looks to me like short stroking the gun) how it locked up. I can do that on most o fmy Smith's and tie the gun up. I believe a machine is meant to run a certain way. Also in the video He's contacted colt(bashing them) reaching out threw social media DEMANDING somebody contact him immediately then being upset that he had to ship the same gun back for warranty work and he would not get a NEW replacement....
I think most of us have dealt with some sort of factory warranty work, past or present and IMO they want to make it right you should firs let them before you BASH them and the rude nonsense... for crying out loud somebody from colt reached out to him!! That's some first rate service.
Again all just IMO
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Erik
Trooper224
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This is why you never buy anything within the first year of production.
The young man in the video didn't show the cylinder not turning. He simply stated it had happened and they had footage of it. He seems pretty ignorant on running a revolver, so I'm not sure if it's a problem with the gun, or if he's short stroking the trigger.
The young man in the video didn't show the cylinder not turning. He simply stated it had happened and they had footage of it. He seems pretty ignorant on running a revolver, so I'm not sure if it's a problem with the gun, or if he's short stroking the trigger.
MCorps0311
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Absolutely awesome!
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