doublesharp
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Just shook out some weak hands is all.
The emperor has no clothes
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Just shook out some weak hands is all.
Absalom
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Okay. Irony is REALLY lost on some people. You should stop digging yourself in deeper.
doublesharp
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irony
noun
the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
I get it now. You were using irony when you said CNN is a serious and verifiable source of information. What you really meant was CNN is Fake News. Gotcha and I agree 100%. This is too easy.
dougb1946
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6 dead now in Washington state. Like most preventable diseases, it's easy to ignore- until you or some of your family gets it. It spreads exponentially. We don't know how prevalent it is because we haven't had the test for it yet. Our CDC is short staffed and our HHS personal are not trained to handle this. Some of the swamp that got drained contained trained and experience experts that would have been nice to have when this first appeared on the horizon. Maybe we would have been ready when infected people were flown into the country, greeted by untrained and unprotected HHS staff, who then went out into the general population spreading the virus. It is here. Hopefully we don't have too many deaths before we can get control of the disease .
Yeah, common sense is prevailing. As opposed to the media mantra of
"When in danger or in doubt, run in circles scream and shout"
...and this week a couple of dozen in Washington have died of other forms of the flu. Big yawn from the media. Not nearly as sexy as a new virus PANDEMIC.
As for the swamp - keep draining it I say.
Was commenting to my wife this evening that I think it would reassure people if the local health departments and local news would tell us, in addition to Covid-19 statistics, how many people have died of the common flu this season in our localities. (I'm in Oregon. Two dead hereabouts of Covid-19 so far, I think it was.)
Added, seeing BC38's post above: I think Covid-19 should be taken seriously. And I do, personally. Don't think it is ho-hum. But also, I think people being what they are, and the news media being what it is, perspective is important. And I think perspective provides a calming influence.
Added, seeing BC38's post above: I think Covid-19 should be taken seriously. And I do, personally. Don't think it is ho-hum. But also, I think people being what they are, and the news media being what it is, perspective is important. And I think perspective provides a calming influence.
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Never happen. It doesn't fit the narrative or agenda. You can't whip up people's emotions presenting information that puts the emotional event into some kind of realistic perspective. That doesn't sell papers or boost ratings.
LVSteve
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I'm waiting for the CDC to really start pushing the "If you feel sick, stay at home" advice. Like that works in the land of no paid sick time.
Unbelievable that there still places in the US where employers are allowed to deny people paid sick leave.I'm waiting for the CDC to really start pushing the "If you feel sick, stay at home" advice. Like that works in the land of no paid sick time.
WA state law says you earn an hour sick pay for every 40 hours worked. So the average person working 40 hour weeks earns 52 hours - 6-1/2 paid days - sick leave per year.
I always thought that seemed pretty reasonable. Employers lose a lot more in productivity when sick employees come to work and make dozens of their co-workers sick than they would if the sick person just stayed home.
Talk about walking over dollars picking up dimes...
JcMack
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Is Covid 19 proven to be "Zoonotic"? If so could it not wind up like HIV/AIDS which has never really been cured, only for those who have it, continuously treated. I'm not a doctor, I just play one on TV. Please cut me some slack with comments. I'm sensitive.
Six questions and answers about the coronavirus (COVID-19) - WUR
Six questions and answers about the coronavirus (COVID-19) - WUR
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No doubt about overhyping by the media, but pretty sure there's a legitimate concern about all the unknown's about the corona virus. With the typical Type A and Type B influenza, they have a good info about what to expect. With corona virus, not so much.
Probably everyone will end up getting corona virus. I don't think anybody knows yet if that'll be a big deal or mostly a lot of people with coughs and runny noses.
Interesting article about how mortality rates from this corona virus vary widely by age (young people not so bad, old folks not so good)
Coronavirus fatality rates vary dramatically depending on age, gender and country — why some patients fare worse than others - MarketWatch
And the underlying analysis from JAMA it was based on.
Characteristics of and Important Lessons From the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Outbreak in China: Summary of a Report of 72 314 Cases From the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention | Global Health | JAMA | JAMA Network
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crsides
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38 percent of people surveyed won't order a Corona beer
darmtn1917
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It's not "just the flu" death rate much higher. flu .1% this virus 3.4
WHO says coronavirus death rate is 3.4% globally, higher than previously thought
WHO says coronavirus death rate is 3.4% globally, higher than previously thought
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I keep hearing the word "pandemic." Would anyone venture to say out loud just what that word means?
darmtn1917
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virus spreads worldwide -pandemic
True, for known, detected cases.
What isn't known is how many have had it and already recovered, or currently have it and just haven't been diagnosed. We know for a fact that there are a lot of people in the second category, and may never know how many have had it and recovered already. It is pretty much only killing the elderly and those with other serious health issues.
If 10x more people have it or have had it than what have been diagnosed then the death rate is 1/10th of that theoretical 3.4% death rate - or only .34%. If 100x more have been infected than what we currently know about the actual mortality rate would be .034%
It was only discovered when people started dying from it. There may be 10's of thousands who have already had it and got over it thinking it was just another flu. I had the flu last week and got over it. Never saw a doctor. How do we know it wasn't Coronavirus? We don't, and there is no way to know how many thousands are in that same boat. After all, I do live only 300 miles from the only place in the US where there have been fatalities from the virus. So I may already be one of the people who got it, was never diagnosed, and DIDN'T die from it.
See how that works to skew the statistics? It is going to take years of accumulating data to determine the actual mortality rate.
To state it ACCURATELY there is CURRENTLY a 3.4% mortality rate for KNOWN cases. But since we don't actually KNOW how many cases there are, that number is definitely inflated. We don't yet know the actual mortality rate.
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CAJUNLAWYER
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By then if you're dead you won't care and if you're alive you won't care either. I mean does anyone really care anymore how many people the Spanish Flu killed way back when??????
Think I'll go puruse the classifieds
Where did you go to medical school?
