S&W 357 sig

[colt_saa]

What are the problems with the M&P .357?

No matter what the firearm, odds are you will find an agency that had problems with them.

Remember we have just under 20,000 City, County, State and Federal Law Enforcement Agencies here in these United States

Years back there was an agency that bought either 65s or 67s and the said the barrels were just breaking off of the revolvers at the front of the frame

Or how about the FBI that had trouble with the 1076s? We all LOVE our 1076s and have no issues.

Somewhere in the North East there was an agency that had problems with their Glocks and replaced them with SIGs.

But there was an agency that had problems with their SIGs and I think replaced them with Glocks

Then there are also thousands of agencies that can be found with no problem with just about any firearm we care to pick

ETC. Etc. etc

 

[safearm]

The only autos made in 357 sig were Model 357v sigma around 1998, limited production. In 2004 Model sw990l, 15 compact, 15 full size were made in 357sig, rare.

I guess I lucked out. Yesterday I was in a LGS and saw a SW990L in the case at a reasonable price. The owner said he had the gun for awhile and was wondering if he would ever sell it. It wasn't until he pulled it out of the case that I noticed it was in .357 Sig. We made a very agreeable deal and I took home my new (to me) gun with a box of FMJ-FP and a box of Hornady Critical Duty. The gun had been shot, but it wasn't filthy. I cleaned it up and started doing some internet research as I had never heard of a SW99 of any type in .357 Sig.

I've attached photos of the box with the original label, the fired cartridge, and the .357 Sig barrel. There is a "P" on the right side of the chamber. The gun has night sights (still works but very dim) and the rear sight is adjustable; I haven't seen sights like these on other SW99s. Until I read this thread, I thought this gun might have been a police trade-in, hence the marking, but now I'm not sure what it means, perhaps prototype?

I didn't get a chance to shoot it last night as it's been raining like it's the monsoon season. Now knowing that only 15 of these guns were made, I'm a bit leery of adding any more wear to it.

In the box (which has a broken latch) was three extra backstraps, two small size and one large size. It only came with one 10 round magazine (marked .40 S&W), and it has a Master lock (still sealed in the bag), Safety and Instruction manual for the SW990L, and an orange barrel plug.

Should I shoot it or save it for a collector?

 

[SWSC]

They were originally made for Immigration Naturalization Services (INS) who were testing for new pistols. SW made these for testing but were not adopted by INS. I believe the P is for proofing. Later sold as used by SW.
Great find

 

[Sevens]

While I realize this discussion is a little dated, I see two different posts that claim S&W has never made a semiauto chambered in .38 Super. This is not true.

The Performance Center made a scarce PC-1911 that was endorsed by famed competitor Doug Koenig. This is a top-tier hand fitted pistol that carried an MSRP at or around $2,000. These are relatively hard to find.

 

[colt_saa]

While I realize this discussion is a little dated, I see two different posts that claim S&W has never made a semiauto chambered in .38 Super. This is not true.

The Performance Center made a scarce PC-1911 that was endorsed by famed competitor Doug Koenig. This is a top-tier hand fitted pistol that carried an MSRP at or around $2,000. These are relatively hard to find.

Sevens,
I believe those statements were in the context of the 3rd generation auto loader question that started this thread.

There was never a production 3rd generation 38 SUPER auto loader, but S&W could have built a tool room sample/demo gun if they so desired.

Unless it turns up in a collector's hand we will never know about it.

 

[oldman10mm]

There are probably sitting in the S&W R&D lab varieties of 9mm, 9x21, 9x23, 356TSW, 357Sig, 40S&W, 10mm, 10mmMag, 45ACP running from 3rd gens to 1911s' as experimentals and as what it takes to build them for production should they ever have wanted to.
When I worked in an 'R&D lab', we had many variations of items that were never put into production.

 

[hammy5150]

Will those Shorty 40 357 barrels drop into a 4013TSW? I've caught the 357 bug but I don't want to get a new gun for it just yet.

 

[Racer X]

The only autos made in 357 sig were Model 357v sigma around 1998, limited production. In 2004 Model sw990l, 15 compact, 15 full size were made in 357sig, rare.

And weren't those "walthers" anyway?

S&W had their own version, the .356TSW

 

[oldman10mm]

The 356TSW is a slightly longer 9mm case with the overall cartridge length same as 9mm, as the 356TSW mags are 9mm mags, just labeled as 356TSW PC. A totally different 'animal' than the 357Sig which is a bottleneck pistol cartridge based on the 40 S&W case.

The 356TSW case is 21.6 mm long, falls in between the 9mm and 38 Super.

 

[Racer X]

The 356TSW is a slightly longer 9mm case with the overall cartridge length same as 9mm, as the 356TSW mags are 9mm mags, just labeled as 356TSW PC. A totally different 'animal' than the 357Sig which is a bottleneck pistol cartridge based on the 40 S&W case.

The 356TSW case is 21.6 mm long, falls in between the 9mm and 38 Super.

My mistake. Isn't someone making a 9x21 anyway? Or is that since the 356TSW?

 

[oldman10mm]

Yes, there is also a 9x21, Israeli, Russian, and Italian as some countries, military cartridges are banned for civilian use.

 

[lhump1961]

Like others have said you may be able to find an M&P in .357sig on the used market. Other very good gun makers still chamber in it so you do have choices. I have these and am very happy with them in terms of reliability and shootability. They do deliver quite a muzzle blast but not unusual for a load like that. 9mm bullet on top of a 40 cal powder charge so go figure!

I got both of these pretty cheap...$350 each a while back. One was the sad recipient of an attempt to change it to flat dark earth...yes the whole thing! It was otherwise like new so I did my best to restore it to black and it turned out OK. The other was NIB but the seller was motivated. Ammo is a bit pricey new but can be reloaded for similar cost as 9mm.

 

[rosewood]

A 4026 with .357sig barrel would be a neat weapon to have.

I missed the opportunity on a 4026 several years back. Saw one on sale for like $350 but wasn't interested at the time, kicking myself now for not grabbing it.

Rosewood