1950 Model 45 Target - Found in Tucson

The chambers had to be deepened in order to accept the 45LC cartridge.

I'm going to get this one out and fondle it a bit. It is still one of the most interesting guns I own.

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Dave, you still have this! That's great. It is an innovative and well thought out piece of engineering. It is unique. One great reason to be in the S&WCA. If you go to the annual meetings, you get to see things like this in real life.

Burt
 
I shoot 50 rounds through my 625-6 every morning, weather permitting, it has three letters CDZ infront of the serial No. It is fairly accurate using acp brass, but when using Starline AR brass it is outstanding, one of my most accurate revolvers. It has only shot lead 180 grain SWC, most accurate using 4.4 grains of 700X so far.

Since I'm such an old fart and have stores of Unique powder, my very accurate load for my 1917 and '50 Target remains: 6.6 grs Uniq w/200 gr SWC in Remington AR cases. Fed and CCI primers.
 
My chopped and reblued example

It makes a good holster gun.........

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Time to spring my trap-

Put $200 in small bills in a paper sack, and drop it in the alley behind Rosa's cantina in El Paso, or you'll never see the gun again.
Better yet, bring it inside- I'm in the last corner booth (they got Wifi now) waitng for Feleena to dance.
:D
HEY DAVE!!!!
I'm still waitin on that $200. Still at Rosa's. They won't let me leave till I pay my tab.
Come git me!
Bring all the cash you can. The back door is nailed shut, but bring a claw hammer and see if you can pull the nails holdin it shut- but be quiet doin it. Bring that 45 in case it gets dicey.
HURRY! :eek:
 
If someone wanted to recreate such a neat revolver, I'd bet a bunch that member BMCM could do it. He's mostly in the semi-auto forum discussing 3rd gens and the work he's done on his or others.
 
Hopefully this is a good place to ask: Has anyone ever been able to match their best accuracy with one of the 45 acp revolvers comparing it against shooting a 45 Long Colt with its best load?
 
HEY DAVE!!!!
I'm still waitin on that $200. Still at Rosa's. They won't let me leave till I pay my tab.
Come git me!
Bring all the cash you can. The back door is nailed shut, but bring a claw hammer and see if you can pull the nails holdin it shut- but be quiet doin it. Bring that 45 in case it gets dicey.
HURRY! :eek:

With proper apologies to the late Warren Zevon...

" I went home with a waitress, the way I always do,
how was I to know, she was with the Russians too...

Send lawyers, guns and money, the S*** has hit the fan!" :D

Froggie
 
Hopefully this is a good place to ask: Has anyone ever been able to match their best accuracy with one of the 45 acp revolvers comparing it against shooting a 45 Long Colt with its best load?

In S&W revolvers I have a few ACP revolvers and only one chambered for the long Colt cartridge. I have not been able to get the long Colt (Model 25-5) to equal the accuracy of the ACP revolvers.

I also have a dual cylinder Italian SAA. The ACP cylinder is permanently installed. Not really sure where the long Colt one is, to be honest.

Kevin
 
Hopefully this is a good place to ask: Has anyone ever been able to match their best accuracy with one of the 45 acp revolvers comparing it against shooting a 45 Long Colt with its best load?

I'd be interested in that result as well. For a valid comparison both cartridges would have to be fired from the same gun with two specifically chambered cyls.
 
I must be the latest of late bloomers when it comes to shooting .45 ACP in a revolver. The OP's revolver is outstanding. I was introduced to .45 ACP revolvers by a guy that shot a 25-2 very well in just about any of the revolver competitions he entered. My first was a Brazilian Model of 1917 which led me down the proverbial crooked trail. I shoot big framed Smith revolvers with .45 AR better than any other revolvers I own. My friend had lost a competition to a bent clip and switched to AR and never looked back, I struggled with a few bad clips and decided it was a worthy switch and also never looked back. I have a very nice original Model of 1917 that I shouldn't shoot because its just that nice but when I do its with 1/2 moons, just for tradition. Some guys don't know that you can shoot without clips as long as you keep a pencil over your ear.
 
Wow! That is a marvelous addition to your collection. Does the 1950 on the barrel right side indicate the year it was made?
 
I must be the latest of late bloomers when it comes to shooting .45 ACP in a revolver. The OP's revolver is outstanding. I was introduced to .45 ACP revolvers by a guy that shot a 25-2 very well in just about any of the revolver competitions he entered. My first was a Brazilian Model of 1917 which led me down the proverbial crooked trail. I shoot big framed Smith revolvers with .45 AR better than any other revolvers I own. My friend had lost a competition to a bent clip and switched to AR and never looked back, I struggled with a few bad clips and decided it was a worthy switch and also never looked back. I have a very nice original Model of 1917 that I shouldn't shoot because its just that nice but when I do its with 1/2 moons, just for tradition. Some guys don't know that you can shoot without clips as long as you keep a pencil over your ear.


Valid for Smith & Wesson. Not for the Colt M 1917.
 
Valid for Smith & Wesson. Not for the Colt M 1917.

Granted, I have little to do with Colt firearms, but from what I understand, only the very early Colt Model 1917s had cylinders bored straight through with no headspacing ridge. I am not positive but believe most of those were fitted with new cylinders either by Colt's or military armorers.

Kevin
 
I'd be interested in that result as well. For a valid comparison both cartridges would have to be fired from the same gun with two specifically chambered cyls.

Jim,

While I understand what you are saying, you are asking for a custom revolver. Certainly not unheard of especially on this forum. I am curious if anyone has been able to get target grade accuracy with a factory S&W revolver chambered for the 45 long Colt. In ACP, accurate revolvers are almost standard.

Kevin
 
I'd be interested in that result as well. For a valid comparison both cartridges would have to be fired from the same gun with two specifically chambered cyls.

At the risk of being deemed a heretic, I'll mention my brother's R***r B*******k that he bought as a 45 Colt (only.). I found a 45 ACP cylinder for it, sitting all lonely on a table at some random gun show. Not only did it fit and function perfectly with no gunsmithing, but with the factory ball ammo he commonly shoots it performed better with the random transplant than the original cylinder. I realize this is one example of another brand of gun, but for what it's worth, there it is.

Froggie
 
In my Ruger factory convertible 45 with both cyls. I couldn't tell the difference once the chamber throats were opened up and properly sized in the Colt cyl. It took a slightly hotter load for best accuracy with the 45 Colt cartridge: volumetric efficiency in the larger case.

I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing were true in a convertible S&W revolver.
 
Granted, I have little to do with Colt firearms, but from what I understand, only the very early Colt Model 1917s had cylinders bored straight through with no headspacing ridge. I am not positive but believe most of those were fitted with new cylinders either by Colt's or military armorers.

Kevin

You are right only the early models had no heaspacing ridge.
 
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