Army pay in 1970...

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We are in the process of moving after 14 years in our current home. Needless to say we are butt deep in old records and misc paperwork. My bride brought me an old folder and inside was my Army 201 personnel file...
{Yes, I know you are not suppose to take those when you muster out, oh well my bad.} Lots of interesting reading going back 50 years but he one that caught my eye was a record of my pay disbursements.

I arrived At Karamoursel Air Force Base in Turkey in January of 1970 as an E-3 PFC serving as a Communications traffic Analyst/Cryptanalyst in the Army Security Agency. We were there to spy on Russian communications. In April I earned a promotion to Specialist 4 {E-4} which wasn't too bad as I had only been in the Army for 10 months. As a newly minted Spec 4 my monthly pay was $249.90. I did receive a small rations allotment of $45 a month once my bride arrived. We got by by purchasing most of our fresh produce, bread, eggs etc. and some meats at the Bazaar every Saturday and the rest of our food came from the commissary on the base

I brought my new bride back to Turkey after our wedding in July of 1970 and as an E-4 did not qualify for on base housing. Our daughter was born in Ankara 10 months later and their travel back to the states at the end of my tour was completely on our dime.

Like most of my enlisted brothers that were accompanied by their wives we lived in the small town of Yalova 18 miles south of the base. We commuted on the old Air Force Blue school busses that ran from early morning until about midnight to accommodate the GI's commuting for our rotating shifts, days - 0730 to 1530, swings - 1530 to 2330 and mids - 2330 to 0730 for 9 days at a time before the next rotation.

Living in Yalova posed more than few challenges, you could not drink the water so every trip to base I carried a 2.5 gallon jug which I would fill at the base bus stop and then empty into a 20 gallon jug we kept on the kitchen counter. Laundry and grocery shopping on base meant humping everything {along with your water jug} back to town that was a 40 minute bus ride. We heated our apartment with a Swedish {wood burning} fireplace supplemented by kerosene heaters. We were lucky in that our water heater, all 6 gallons of it, was heated by a single propane burner fed by a small LP cylinder. Many of my friends had to burn coal for hot water.

Rent, fortunately was cheap, about $35 a month for a small apartment and the GI's would buy a "Package deal" from a fellow GI that consisted of a few pieces of furniture, pots and pans, dishes etc.. As I recall they went for around $450 depending on how much stuff you were getting. You really had to scramble to get yours sold when it was time to rotate out.

After 18 months in Turkey I was reassigned to Homestead AFB {to spy on the Russian ground troops operating in Cuba}. My pay was advanced to $335 a month which sounded pretty good initially until we were faced with the huge increase in the cost of living. We managed to get a studio apartment for $185 a month + another $65 for utilities. Could not even get a phone as we did not have the required $100 deposit. We lived like dogs {slept on the floor} for the next 15 months but I was able take advantage of a one year early out {off of the requisite 4 year enlistment to serve in the ASA}.

As we had so little going for us I took full advantage of the Air Force's educational opportunities and managed to complete a 2 year Associate of arts degree from Miami Date Junior College {in 6 months} through a combination of on bases classes and extensive testing for credit. Just about the only good thing that came out of that assignment.

We have been married for more than 50 years and never ever struggled financially more than during our time at Homestead. Happily while nowhere near enough, these days our members of the military are paid far better.
 
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Good story and reminder of a different time in history.
I can recall my military pay in 1968/9 being around $110.00.
Along came Dick Nixon with the VOLAR initiative, along with a grade elevation and aviation pay it was well above $275..... We were all pleased with that.
 
I got back from RVN in Nov of 70 and in Dec my wife, young son and I moved to Ft Sam in San Antonio. We rented a very small (2 room) house that was the servant's quarters of a larger home in a nice neighborhood. I think the rent was $125. I was an E-5 by then and I think I was making $500 per month.

We didn't yet have a credit card, but we never bounced a check. We shopped some at the commissary, but often the local stores were cheaper.

I was discharged in July and we just barely had enough money to get back to Illinois. I had by then gotten an ARCO credit card, but could only find one of those stations on the way home.
 
I joined the U.S. Coast Guard in 1970. After boot camp, I was assigned to an ice breaker as an E-2, seaman apprentice, until a new class at Radarman school started. My pay as an E-2 was $66 every two weeks. Getting married as an E-2 was frowned upon and required the written permission of your commanding officer. I barely had enough money for myself much less a wife and living expenses. I was on the ship six months before getting sent to Governors Island New York for school.

I served 20 years retiring in 1991, I served on both coasts as well as Hawaii and Alaska. I don't recall what I was being paid in 1991 but it was better than the $66 every two weeks I started out with.
 
In 1968 I lined up with the rest of my basic training company and reported for monthly pay. After federal income tax, social security tax, soldiers home, and a couple of PX chits (haircuts probably) were taken out I walked away with 3 twenty dollar bills, 2 one dollar bills, and had a nickel carried forward to the next payday (pay officers did not carry change, only fresh greenbacks).

About a year or so later I was promoted from corporal ($230 per month) to buck sergeant E5 while serving in Vietnam. Base pay was $248.75 per month, $30.00 overseas pay, $17.00 family separation allowance, $65.00 combat pay, and $55.00 hazardous duty pay (jump status). No income taxes in a combat zone, I drew $60 per month and the rest went on allotment to my wife and covered the $45.00 monthly rent (1BR apartment), $40.00 monthly car payment, utilities and phone bill. Somehow she managed to save a couple hundred bucks while I was gone for a year!

In Vietnam I paid $2.40 per case for beer (getting the beer cold was always a challenge, and I was limited to 4 cases per month when it was available at the Class VI store), cigarettes were $1.70 per carton until a price increase to $1.90. All tax-free, of course (combat zone and all). Ration cards for everything (to prevent black marketing) and we were not allowed to have real money, just MPC (military payment certificates). In the field we ate C-rations, which included a small pack of cigarettes with every meal (no choice of brand, so a lot of trading went on).

A new Seiko wristwatch was about $12 to $20 at the PX, and you could get a Rolex for about a hundred at the time. Ford, GM, Chrysler and others offered new cars through the PX with payment plans that allowed a guy to pick up his new ride upon return to the States. I think a new Mustang or Camaro was about $2200 or so (which I could not afford).

Came home, reassigned to Fort Benning, Georgia. Purchased a 2BR house for $9300, no money down VA loan, $88 per month. In 1972, reassigned to Fort Carson, Colorado, we bought a brand new 3BR, 1.5 bath, 1-car attached garage house for $17,700, again no down VA with $182 monthly payments (scared the stuffing out of me! I think my off-post housing allowance was $105 per month at the time).

Looked that house up on the County Assessor website a couple years ago, it last sold for $152,000 in 2014.
 
I remember those days as a young airman E2 getting a check for 47.50 every two weeks, that was 1966-1967. I got married just before going to Vietnam, make E-3. when I got to Vietnam my allotment sent everything to my wife and I lived off my Hazard pay, I was sent TDY and got paid 77.10 a month for non available of quarters. plus separate rations plus 3.00 a day TDY pay. the only problem I didn't collect the money until I when on R&R 10 months later. I got a partial payment pay of 38.00 a month. I got by I had enough for cigarettes' and razor blades. The extra money helped when I got to my next base, we didn't have much it all fit in the trunk and back seat of the car. we were young in love and made it work and didn't complain.
 
Oh- and as an E-1 in Basic Training I drew $73/month after the deduction for a $25 Savings Bond. We didn't have to buy the bond. You could opt instead for KP and every other detail on a more than regular schedule.

Later, as an E-5 with combat pay ($65/month), I was 'nouveau riche'! :D Can't even remember how much that was- $400-500 per month?
 
Enlisted in ‘65 and pay for an E1 was something like $79.50/month, got out in ‘68 as an E5 on jump status being paid the princely sum of $252/month.
 
I was an E-4 in 1980. I forget what the pay was, but it seemed small to me. Fortunately, I am married to a gal who knows how to stretch a dollar. We were at Ft. Knox, home was El Paso. I came home one day, and there was a brand new color TV. I told her that we couldn't afford payments on one, and to take it back. Payments? she says, I paid cash out of our savings. Savings? I didn't know we had any.

The Christmas of 1981, I was told that we were flying home so that the grandparents could see our new son, who had been born in August. Once again, I told her that we couldn't afford it. Can't afford it? Here are the tickets, and I paid for them out of our savings.

All these years later, she is still the money manager. I get a generous allowance to fund my hobbies, and she is still keeping us solvent.
 
Citizen? I was often informed I was "Property of the US Army".;)

That's precisely what sticks in my craw in a free society.

I assume that many of the comments re inadequate pay and the marriage question date back to the days of the draft.
 
I think my base pay in the summer of 1981 was 500.00. If I recall you could only keep a little bit and the rest went into the company safe. I was able to save half my pay from E-1 to E-4 per month until I met my ex-wife , well you know the rest of the story
 

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