How Will Ammo And Prices Now Be Affected

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Dave Lively: what is the contact information for the company that removed the lead from the backstop?
 
They have learned ... you don't need gun control if you have ammo control . A gun without ammo is a club at best .
Read post # 12 ...carefully ... He ain't just Whistling Dixie .
Gary
 
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I wish that I had found 9mm for $169 a K. The ammo fairy was watching out for you. Good for you.

Target Sports had brass case 9mm from many manufacturers for $169 case for a couple years. Naturally I went my usual " cautious lightweight" and only got 3K. Back in 2004 I was single and the Orlando Bass Pro had WWB 9mm for $ 3.88/ box. I put 13,500 rds in my pickup because that's all they had. Joe
 
Dave Lively: what is the contact information for the company that removed the lead from the backstop?

I do not have their contact information but the name of the company is Recoil, LLC, and they are located in Orlando, FL. I read about the lead removal in the club newsletter but was not involved directly.

Their rate schedule was they get to keep all of the first 40,000 pounds of lead and half of everything over that. Not sure if they have a minimum.

The ranges they worked on are in great shape.
 
Never underestimate the lengths to which some folks will go. A few possibilities come to mind:

1. Licensing of reloaders as ammunition manufacturers.
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I suppose reloads will be renamed "ghost ammunition".
Whatever happens to the executive branch, the legislative branches projected makeup won't have the numbers to expand the authority of federal agencies to regulate firearms and ammo.
 
I have no idea where ammo prices will go in the future. A person would have to know what capacity the manufacturers have and how they address the present shortage. I doubt they will do much of anything different as they sell all they make and know that there will always be peaks and valleys in sales. Trying to guess where those might be isn't a good business decision. I didn't see any rush to meet the demand in the last ammo/component shortage. That one took several years to work itself out.

In time the supply will return but I wouldn't want to say what year that might be.
 
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Never underestimate the lengths to which some folks will go. A few possibilities come to mind:

1. Licensing of reloaders as ammunition manufacturers.
2. Taxes on every round produced, perhaps more taxes on every component.
3. Changes in state and local codes restricting the quantities of ammunition, primers, powders, etc, may lawfully be kept in a residential dwelling or building (saw this in the Denver metro area a couple of years ago, 1000 rounds max per building, and that included a building with dozens of apartments all subject to the aggregate limit for the building).
4. State insurance commissions (appointed officials) changing requirements for insurance policies sold within the state to specifically limit or prohibit any insurance coverage for damages or injuries resulting from ammunition storage, components, reloading, etc.
5. Prohibitions on possession or use of lead bullets or shot.
6. Changes in laws dealing with child endangerment to prohibit possession of ammunition, components, or reloading equipment/supplies in any household with children present (or perhaps within 1000 feet of any child's residence, or any school, or any day care facility, etc).
7. Changes in business or zoning laws to prohibit sale or delivery of reloading components, supplies, or equipment (or just onerous and expensive licensing and compliance requirements).

Then there is still the United Nations Treaty on Small Arms floating around, which the US might conceivably ratify at some future time. That treaty contains strict licensing provisions and other restrictions for anyone who manufactures or reloads ammunition (not to mention firearms of any type in private hands), which might be found palatable by those who wish to limit your supply or access.

It can be amusing when a news source reports a story of someone found in possession of "an arsenal" or "thousands of rounds of ammunition". Probably not so amusing when the photos or videos show your house. You and I might think a few thousand rounds is just a reasonable supply for our range trips or recreational shooting, but that is probably not how we will be portrayed to the general public. We might expect to get a call from State Farm telling us our homeowners policy has been cancelled shortly after those reports are published.

As I recall, the Second Amendment uses the word "arms" with absolutely no mention of ammunition or the means for producing ammunition. I don't want to be the test case in court!

No, I will never underestimate the opposition.
What you just described is exactly how they will do it.

" It's for the children, you see ".
 
The non-shotgun shooting sports will dry up pretty quickly.
Ammunition is now too precious of a commodity to waste " playing games " with.
 
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The non-shotgun shooting sports will dry up pretty quickly.
Ammunition is now too precious of a commodity to waste " playing games " with.

Pro shooters will still get their ammo directly from the manufacturer, but I agree, we regular people will just stop shooting as much as we did.

Handgun ammo is very hard to come by. Whenever I see it for sale it's already gone by the time I put it in the cart and get to the payment page. It's that crazy. Dealers must be stalking the distributors websites and buy on sight.

That's what I'll do now... buying just one or two boxes instead of filling up the cart to save a bit on shipping.
 
You may have noticed that there is a pandemic going on. Factory workers-closed off from open air, crowded together-are a prime target. Nothing is going back to normal until we have a unified comprehensive plan in place, directed by scientists and doctors. Other nations have beat the disease back to controllable levels by using science and good management--masks, social distancing, small crowd management. We are number one in the world with death rates and infection rates. Not the good number one, the other one.
As much as I like punching holes in targets and eating game, until the epidemic is controlled, my money goes to good masks
Under current management, the death rate is going up again and ICUs are getting over crowded again.
 
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"...How Will Ammo And Prices Now Be Effected..."
THAT would be "AFFECTED", and since there is such an inference on everyone's college or no-college... thing this week, maybe you could correct this and save face...?
 
The non-shotgun shooting sports will dry up pretty quickly.
Ammunition is now too precious of a commodity to waste " playing games " with.

I haven't seen much evidence of that. Attendance at matches is down but mostly due to COVID restrictions. The guys that shoot matches usually seem to have a pretty good stockpile and many of them are still shooting.

The prices we are seeing now are panic prices. This is not the new normal. Every time there is a shortage I read posts about how prices will never come down but they always have. It might take a year but this too shall pass.
 
You may have noticed that there is a pandemic going on. Factory workers-closed off from open air, crowded together-are a prime target. Nothing is going back to normal until we have a unified comprehensive plan in place, directed by scientists and doctors. Other nations have beat the disease back to controllable levels by using science and good management--masks, social distancing, small crowd management. We are number one in the world with death rates and infection rates. Not the good number one, the other one.
As much as I like punching holes in targets and eating game, until the epidemic is controlled, my money goes to good masks
Under current management, the death rate is going up again and ICUs are getting over crowded again.

Don't even go there. The Euros are shutting down their economy for the THIRD time and still have not gotten control of the virus.

Australia shut down for what 110 days? People could only leave their houses for 1 hour per day. How the hell do you work/pay the bills? Oh that's right the gov't gave everyone a stipend. One step closer to socialism.
 
When I was working for the Yankee Gov't, we once got a two hour inservice with PowerPoint, a notetaking guide, and a quick reference sheet on the difference between "affect" and "effect." I began using "impact" instead. As for ammo, the original topic of the post, it's gonna be the .22 LR shortage all over again for a while, like it has been for the last six months, with less availability in the near future. I believe it will loosen up by summer of 2021 . . .

"...How Will Ammo And Prices Now Be Effected..."
THAT would be "AFFECTED", and since there is such an inference on everyone's college or no-college... thing this week, maybe you could correct this and save face...?
 
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LoboGunLeather

IS RIGHT ON THE MONEY.

IT WILL BE A NEW REVENUE STREAM FOR THE GOVERNMENT. THERE IS ALREADY A AMMUNITION TAX IN COOK COUNTY (CHICAGO) IL. 1 PENNY PER ROUND OF RIMFIRE, A NICKEL PER ROUND ON CENTERFIRE. RAISED IN THE NAME OF PAYING FOR THE SHOOTING VICTIMS MEDICAL EXPENSES.

IN GERMANY YOU MUST HAVE A RELOADING LICENSE AND ARE LIMITED TO 1 POUND OF POWDER AND 1K PRIMERS PER YEAR. THAT INFO CAME FROM A FRIEND OF MINE ON THE GERMAN NATIONAL POLICE TEAM.

BE AWARE, BE VERY AWARE
 
Seeing as Germany doesn't use avoirdupois measures, I doubt your friend is limited to a pound of powder.

Belgium, for instance, limits reloaders to 2 kilos of bulk powder purchases at a time. That's 4.4lb.
 
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