Oldsalt66
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If you indicate that you're a marijuana user on your form 4473, you can't buy a gun from an FFL anywhere in The USA.
Medical plants? No carry!
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If you indicate that you're a marijuana user on your form 4473, you can't buy a gun from an FFL anywhere in The USA.
I neither need nor want a MM card.
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NOT OFTEN ENOUGH.
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AMEN!!!!!!
I live in a legal state. I don't smoke pot, just not really my jam. I've drank plenty, and been around plenty of real drunks, and I'd take a dude who wants to smoke a bowl and compare notes on our favorite jam bands over 9/10 drunks, assuming both are equally intoxicated on their preferred substance.
I absolutely do not think weed use should stop a person from getting a carry permit, or any other 2A infringement. We love getting animated about laws that infringe upon our rights to own firearms that are based in feelings rather than facts, and we should steer of a little of that towards this issue as well.
I absolutely do not think weed use should stop a person from getting a carry permit, or any other 2A infringement. We love getting animated about laws that infringe upon our rights to own firearms that are based in feelings rather than facts, and we should steer of a little of that towards this issue as well.
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Can't say that I care, honestly. It makes perfect sense to restrict folks from obtaining a carry license who are taking a substance which is known to impair judgement, regardless of its dubious health benefits, much less its medical necessity.
That being said, I am admittedly a bit biased considering that literally everyone I've ever known who smoked Marijuana (medicinal or otherwise) was an immature, irresponsible fool who frankly shouldn't be trusted with the matches they used to light up, much less firearms.
That being said, I am admittedly a bit biased considering that literally everyone I've ever known who smoked Marijuana (medicinal or otherwise) was an immature, irresponsible fool who frankly shouldn't be trusted with the matches they used to light up, much less firearms.
I am still struck by how many folks still think Reefer Madness was a documentary.
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Ya know, I've never hid the facts of my past doings. Not real proud about some of the stuff I've done, but, nevertheless, that had to be one of the funniest movies I've ever watched while doing some things; along with Monte Python...Holy Grail! Just have to be in the right state of mind. Many people don't understand this, and that's okay!
Cool, now apply this to alcohol. The vast majority of Americans eligible for gun ownership consume alcohol with some regularity, and even more have in the past. I snagged a box of 12g target ammo while I was getting groceries, and checked out the box along with a sixer, did I do something wrong?
There is an argument, though where its state level legal it's less convincing, that someone doing an illegal thing, absent any other factors, is less trustworthy, but that they use a substance with mind altering effects as the sole reason for denial of rights is a bit laughable in the face of other legal intoxicants.
Some of the most successful people I know smoke weed and drink, as do some of the least successful.
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Nope, not in El Paso County Colorado (so not in the state).
Go sent your 12 year old down to the corner store and have them pick up a 12 pack and a carton of smokes. Open up a store and start selling beer and scotch without a license and see if there are any "controls" other than taxes.
I been around both baked Bob and Boozer Billy and everything else being equal I would trust my kids with baked Bob before Boozer Billy every time. Half you guys who say you don't know any good dope smokers have a Dr, a lawyer an accountant or somebody else that smokes pot in your life, they are just smart enough not to let you know. I got straight As in everything but English when I went to college and "might" have been stoned on my *** every day. Plenty of really smart people smoke a little pot.
It is STUPID that some guy with a couple DUIs can buy a gun, a fall down crawl in the gutters drunk can buy a gun, the guy who has to stop off at the tavern every night after work can buy a gun, the guy with 4 drunk and disorderly charges can buy a gun, the guy who has a Rx for any number of muscle relaxers, anti depressants, or pain killers can buy a gun, even the guy who drinks while using said drugs can buy a gun and the guy who tokes up Saturday night can't.
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9mmPatriot
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Stoners CAN buy firearms, the topic is can they LEGALLY carry a concealed weapon. The law is the law....stupid or otherwise.
I can't buy any new 30 round mags in my home state....because that's the law. I don't have to like it, I just have to obey it.
Vote the idiots out, vote the better person in. It takes time, but what do you have to lose?
I can't buy any new 30 round mags in my home state....because that's the law. I don't have to like it, I just have to obey it.
Vote the idiots out, vote the better person in. It takes time, but what do you have to lose?
dsf
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The 4473 references "illegal user of" the weed - which includes edibles and however else THC can be ingested.
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I edited just to save space. Re addiction there's the US Code, such as it is: 21 U.S. Code SS 802 - Definitions | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute
But I also recall a medical definition that was more precise and less subjective. However, my pasta is waiting and Sofia Vergara is coming on TV shortly, so I'm going to bail a bit.
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If "buy" means from a gun store or private sale - no. Nor can they possess a firearm.
In Oregon however they can be issued a CCW because OR has decriminalized MJ and the OR CCW background check doesn't go outside OR. A few years back OR Supreme Court rendered that decision. In the same decision however the court wrote that while the CCW could be issued, that a person was an MJ user and concurrently held an OR issued CCW could be used as probable cause for LE to investigate as a federally prohibited person in possession of a firearm.
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I liked George Carlin's approach to drug use - they should all be legalized, but only in suppository form.
From about 1985 to 1995 I had enough fun to be dead or at least have Keith Richards say "pal, you look like hell ....". I really can't think of any good reason to get loaded on anything now, including MJ. Still, when we talk about "2nd Amendment infringement" theory I'd rather put it another way. Should that person be prohibited from defending his very life with the tool most efficient for doing so? Am I going to tell them to use a golf club or baseball bat instead?
I'm uncomfortable with either position. But I kind of lean toward what I tell my anti-gun friends. That freedom and liberty entails risks, including some we may be personally very uncomfortable with or fairly well know may cause problems. I don't like it, but am at a bit of a loss to resolve it otherwise.
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