Shipping ammunition to my son in cali.

[Beemer-mark]

Simple. Box it very securely, box it twice. Ship it USPS. Laws are so convoluted no one knows the legality. USPS doesn't inspect shipments. They don't open the package. They don't x-ray it. They don't have ammo sniffing dogs.

Now this is illegal and you've guilty of violated a gazillion laws. But then again every morning you wake up you've been violating a gazillion city, county, state, and federal laws. So why worry now.

 

[jag312]

I have told my friends in California that they can use my Nevada address. If a box arrives here with their name, then I will put it in my gun room where it will sit until they come to visit me. What's in the box, Goose? Don't know. Ain't none of my business.


I have been told that investigators from California Department of Justice will come to the Reno Shows to watch people buying large quantities ammunition. The investigators will follow the buyer out to the parking lot to see if the vehicle has California license plates. If it is a California car, the information will be relayed to the California inspection station on Hwy 80 for the vehicle to be stopped and searched. California gun laws; one of the many reasons why I left California.

 

[LoboGunLeather]

Just about anywhere else in the US but California, this would be an easy thing to deal with. From what I have heard recently even the cops in California have problems getting privately-owned ammo.

No matter what you do you would probably be in violation of some law or regulation, or even worse, putting your son at risk. Best avoided.

That said, I might get a little creative, maybe put together a package to ship from myself at my home address to myself at my son's address (in care of, with adult signature requirement to demonstrate my cautious nature), and include a note asking my son to please keep this stuff for me next time I come out for hunting season, be sure and lock it up and make sure no little hands can get to it, etc, etc, etc.

Should keep my son completely clear of any culpability. I doubt even Cali would extradict me from another state to prosecute, and any law school drop-out with a speech impediment should be able to defend me if it came to that.

I still don't like the idea of being the test case at the courthouse.

 

[Gunhacker]

if he has a c and r ffl
you could ship it to him with no problem

Nope... just having a C&R FFL is not enough. In addition to the C&R FFL, a valid California COE (Certificate of Eligibility) is also need in order for ammo to be shipped directly to a C&R FFL holder.

I have both of them, and for the time being, I have the ability to purchase ammo online and out of state, and have it shipped to my door step.

Many folks here when the new ammo law was passed, obtained a C&R FFL and COE, to get the legal exemption from ammo law. It's not difficult to do, but a pain to do.

 

[jake1945]

Holy ****!! What a PITA!

 

[LoboGunLeather]

Holy ****!! What a PITA!

Exactly as intended.

 

[gen3guy]

Go to Cabela's in Glendale, AZ on any given Saturday afternoon and count the CA plates in the parking lot.

 

[Beemer-mark]

Just about anywhere else in the US but California, this would be an easy thing to deal with. From what I have heard recently even the cops in California have problems getting privately-owned ammo.

Yup, daughter and son-in-law are Fed Leo's. Same convoluted laws apply. You need to have a gun registered with the state so you can even buy ammo. Gun and ammo doesn't have to match so my son-in-law went and bought a really cheap gun (Heritage?) so he could buy ammo.

 

[smoothshooter]

Yup, daughter and son-in-law are Fed Leo's. Same convoluted laws apply. You need to have a gun registered with the state so you can even buy ammo. Gun and ammo doesn't have to match so my son-in-law went and bought a really cheap gun (Heritage?) so he could buy ammo.

Since they are Feds why don't they bid on jobs in one of the more free states?

 

[gerhard1]

As for the gangs getting ammo, the laws are only obeyed by law abiding citizens, not the criminals.

NO!!!! Say it ain't so!

 

[Golphin]

Has the son considered moving? That's what I would suggest to my son if he lived in California!!

AMEN!!!!!!

 

[4896worker]

I have told my friends in California that they can use my Nevada address. If a box arrives here with their name, then I will put it in my gun room where it will sit until they come to visit me. What's in the box, Goose? Don't know. Ain't none of my business.


I have been told that investigators from California Department of Justice will come to the Reno Shows to watch people buying large quantities ammunition. The investigators will follow the buyer out to the parking lot to see if the vehicle has California license plates. If it is a California car, the information will be relayed to the
California inspection station on Hwy 80 for the vehicle to be stopped and searched. California gun laws; one of the many reasons why I left California.

When I go to Reno gun shows this old man usually needs a bathroom before the ag check station on hwy 80 take the first truckee exit think it's Hertenber or something like that. And uses bathroom in town . Go through town to see it the old town the last on ramp to 80 is past the ag station

 

[Muss Muggins]

When I go to Reno gun shows this old man usually needs a bathroom before the ag check station on hwy 80 take the first truckee exit think it's Hertenber or something like that. And uses bathroom in town . Go through town to see it the old town the last on ramp to 80 is past the ag station

California Food and Agricultural Code

You might notice this reads " . . . any vehicle . . ."

 

[STORMINORMAN]

Much less their own...!

It would be easier to move and get a new job than it would be to get California to adhere to the US Constitution.

Don't forget: the Citzens of california amended their Constitution, only to have it declared un-Constitutional by a Federal Court when the gov & atty general violated their sworn Constitutional oath to protect & defend it in that action!

I guess they only swear to defend those portions of their Constitution that conforms to their erection-to-resurrection radical leftwing, liberal socialist agendas?

What's next: free speech or freedom of religion?

P.S. Check out what it costs to rent a moving truck FROM california vs. TO california: getting out ain't as easy as you might think!

 

[uncleted327]

Just box it well and send it USPS. Stop jumping through the BS hoops. Do people really think the post office is x-raying all these packages looking for ammo? It's ridiculous. Goes well with the boogeyman theory of having a slide plate with some dumb saying on your gun allowing some imaginary lawyer to lock you up after an otherwise legal shooting...

 

[tdo-ca]

I have been told that investigators from California Department of Justice will come to the Reno Shows to watch people buying large quantities ammunition. The investigators will follow the buyer out to the parking lot to see if the vehicle has California license plates. If it is a California car, the information will be relayed to the California inspection station on Hwy 80 for the vehicle to be stopped and searched. California gun laws; one of the many reasons why I left California.

I was told at my LGS same happening more frequently this past year on I-10 ex-AZ and I-15 ex-NV going south, watching the stores for CA plates. Tax dollars at work.

 

[smoothshooter]

Don't even think about it.

It was your son's choice to live where he does.
It's his responsibility to work out the associated problems.

 

[smoothshooter]

Just box it well and send it USPS. Stop jumping through the BS hoops. Do people really think the post office is x-raying all these packages looking for ammo? It's ridiculous. Goes well with the boogeyman theory of having a slide plate with some dumb saying on your gun allowing some imaginary lawyer to lock you up after an otherwise legal shooting...

That might work once, twice, maybe three times. Maybe not.
I would not put anything past the Postal Inspectors and other alphabet agencies out there.
My money says they ARE X-raying and using dogs to inspect lots of packages for prohibited items.
The " bogeymen " are real and they are out there in increasing numbers, and they have more access to your personal information than you do.

Kinda' like the joke where the guy requesting an application to apply for a job at Google, and being told that filling out an application and resume wasn't necessary because they already had all his information.

 

[arjay]

Sell the ammo locally and send him a check.Simple.

 

[Nick B]

33 years with the USPS . Nobody is XRaying or opening parcels. Nobody cares or gives a **** what's inside a package that's already moving through the system as long as it doesn't leak fluids or give off fumes .
Don't ask, don't tell . Double boxing and lots of tape are your friends .
Just don't go wild and try to ship 1k rounds at a time .